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Which of our players would be eligible for AHL in case of a lockout?

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08-17-2012, 02:00 PM
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Which of our players would be eligible for AHL in case of a lockout?

I'm a little confused on the rules on this one. I assume Krieder, Hags, Stepan, Del Zotto and McD would be eligible. Any others of note?

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08-17-2012, 02:02 PM
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Any player with a two way contract I would assume would be eligible.

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Kreider, Stepan, Hagelin, Haley and McDonagh.

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It's more involved that just the type of contract--I looked up the rules a couple of weeks ago. A player must be waiver exempt to play in Hartford during a lockout. Whether they are waiver exempt depends on what age a player was when they signed their contract (not the age when they start playing professionally) and how many NHL games--including playoffs--they have played. This is copied from the Business of Hockey board:

For exemption determination, NHL games played include regular and post season games.

Once the number of games exempt has been reached, the player is subject to waivers. However, if the number of games has not been reached, if a player starts the season with a year of exemption remaining, they aren't subject to waivers until the following year.

Age in tables below is the player's age when they signed their NHL contract (regardless of when they begin NHL play).

Article 13.4
Goalie Exemption:
Age Years from signing - NHL NHL Games Played
18 6 80
19 5 80
20 4 80
21 4 60
22 4 60
23 3 60
24 2 60
25+ 1 .

Player Exemption:
Age Years from signing - NHL NHL Games Played
18 5 160
19 4 160
20 3 160
21 3 80
22 3 70
23 3 60
24 2 60
25+ 1 .

I haven't looked it up, but it's possible that Del Zotto is not eligible and I don't know how old Hagelin was when he actually signed his contract (he played a total of 81 games). The others mentioned (except Haley--I suspect he probably signed more than 5 years ago) should be eligible.

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...d.php?t=668895

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08-17-2012, 07:31 PM
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Interesting--so these rules apply even if a player is still on his ELC?

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It's more involved that just the type of contract--I looked up the rules a couple of weeks ago. A player must be waiver exempt to play in Hartford during a lockout. Whether they are waiver exempt depends on what age a player was when they signed their contract (not the age when they start playing professionally) and how many NHL games--including playoffs--they have played. This is copied from the Business of Hockey board:

For exemption determination, NHL games played include regular and post season games.

Once the number of games exempt has been reached, the player is subject to waivers. However, if the number of games has not been reached, if a player starts the season with a year of exemption remaining, they aren't subject to waivers until the following year.

Age in tables below is the player's age when they signed their NHL contract (regardless of when they begin NHL play).

Article 13.4
Goalie Exemption:
Age Years from signing - NHL NHL Games Played
18 6 80
19 5 80
20 4 80
21 4 60
22 4 60
23 3 60
24 2 60
25+ 1 .

Player Exemption:
Age Years from signing - NHL NHL Games Played
18 5 160
19 4 160
20 3 160
21 3 80
22 3 70
23 3 60
24 2 60
25+ 1 .

I haven't looked it up, but it's possible that Del Zotto is not eligible and I don't know how old Hagelin was when he actually signed his contract (he played a total of 81 games). The others mentioned (except Haley--I suspect he probably signed more than 5 years ago) should be eligible.

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...d.php?t=668895

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08-18-2012, 01:08 AM
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those are the 'normal' rules under the current cba but i'm not sure that they apply during a lockout...i thought last time there were 'exceptions' made

patrice bergeron played in the ahl at 19 years old during the lockout...under normal rules he wouldn't have been allowed to play in the ahl at 19

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Couldn't just any player "sign" in the AHL during the lockout like they do overseas?

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Couldn't just any player "sign" in the AHL during the lockout like they do overseas?
What team in the AHL would risk signing an NHL player? Many of the teams are owned by people who also own NHL teams, all of them have some sort of arrangement with a team in the NHL.

Also, there is a limit on how many veteran players (think it's 5, but not totally sure) can play in an AHL game.

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What team in the AHL would risk signing an NHL player? Many of the teams are owned by people who also own NHL teams, all of them have some sort of arrangement with a team in the NHL.

Also, there is a limit on how many veteran players (think it's 5, but not totally sure) can play in an AHL game.
That's true. But since most teams are "owned" by their NHL affiliate, why are they ok with letting the "prospects" play? Shouldn't those players be locked out as well? They have an NHL contract and thus are NHL players after all.

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That's true. But since most teams are "owned" by their NHL affiliate, why are they ok with letting the "prospects" play? Shouldn't those players be locked out as well? They have an NHL contract and thus are NHL players after all.
That's a good question--which I don't have the answer to. I'm just going by what happened last time.

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