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08-18-2012, 04:25 PM
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I'd say no. Hamhuis is great but there's just better players.

Weber
Keith
Doughty
Seabrook
Letang
Girardi
Petro
Subban

What you have to look at is the defensive defenseman. Canada seems to pick all around superstar dmen or all star offensive dmen. Not defensive dmen.

Hamhuis wouldn't be competing with letang or subban. But with weber, Keith and seabrook.

As a Canucks fans we'd love to see hammer play in Sochi. But unless he has a real breakout superstar season, I would highly doubt it.

Edler looks like our only guy heading to Sochi from the D.

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08-18-2012, 04:27 PM
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I kind of feel like KB3 would be a disaster on team Canada.

Hamhuis is better than Edler, IMO. He absolutely should be on Team Canada, but who knows how they pick things.

One of the best defensive defensemen in the league, also capable of 40 points and has no physical weakness. He's better than Edler, IMO.

Keith - Doughty
Staal - Letang
Hamhuis - Weber
Seabrook?

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08-18-2012, 04:35 PM
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I think the more interesting question is if Burrows has a shot.
Not sure if serious.

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R guys I take ahead of burrows off the top of my head

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08-18-2012, 04:42 PM
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I kind of feel like KB3 would be a disaster on team Canada.

Hamhuis is better than Edler, IMO. He absolutely should be on Team Canada, but who knows how they pick things.
You're not the only one...

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08-18-2012, 04:44 PM
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Edler looks like our only guy heading to Sochi from the D.
Is it on "international ice" though? Seems like Edler current strengths are tailor made for the "NHL game".

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08-18-2012, 05:29 PM
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Contenders for Team Canada
Doughty
Phaneuf
Letang
Weber
Keith
Seabrook
Pietrangelo
_____________

Shattenkirk
Burns
Staal
Hamhuis
Subban
Girardi

If everyone is healthy, Hamhuis has a very small chance at the bottom pairing or the 7th man, but there is just too much star power there for me to say he has a good shot at making the team. If there are injuries, then I'd consider saying he has a good shot.

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08-18-2012, 05:31 PM
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I think the more interesting question is if Burrows has a shot.
As much as I love Burr, there is no way that he makes the Olympic squad.

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08-18-2012, 05:57 PM
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Contenders for Team Canada
Doughty - R
Phaneuf - R
Letang - R
Weber - R
Keith - L
Seabrook - R
Pietrangelo - R
_____________

Shattenkirk - are you kidding me?
Burns - R
Staal - L
Hamhuis - L
Subban - R
Girardi - R

If everyone is healthy, Hamhuis has a very small chance at the bottom pairing or the 7th man, but there is just too much star power there for me to say he has a good shot at making the team. If there are injuries, then I'd consider saying he has a good shot.
You listed a whole bunch of defensemen that play the right side and only 3 that play the left side...

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08-18-2012, 06:14 PM
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Hamhuis has a legit shot if they are making a team instead of an all star game roster

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08-18-2012, 06:21 PM
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As much as I love Burr, there is no way that he makes the Olympic squad.
I'm not counting on it, but I think we could all be in a for a surprise. Remember, Morrow was a surprise in 2010.

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Hamhuis has a legit shot if they are making a team instead of an all star game roster
This is pretty much it. Is he a lock? Of course not, but he is among Canada's best left-side talents.

Can't have six right-side defenders and not expect them to have trouble.


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08-18-2012, 06:21 PM
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Hamhuis has a legit shot if they are making a team instead of an all star game roster
Agreed, he can easily be on the third pairing if he keeps up his play for another season and a bit.

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08-18-2012, 06:34 PM
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I think you guys are being pretty optimistic, and overrating the importance of having the proper amount of right- and left-side D.

Team Canada will select the 7 best defenders, and Hamhuis is simply not one of them at this point. He'll get "consideration", but so will fifteen other Canadian defensemen.

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08-18-2012, 06:41 PM
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I think you guys are being pretty optimistic, and overrating the importance of having the proper amount of right- and left-side D.

Team Canada will select the 7 best defenders, and Hamhuis is simply not one of them at this point. He'll get "consideration", but so will fifteen other Canadian defensemen.
i'm not saying hamhuis will make it, but i seriously doubt team canada is going to go with 5 RHS/2 LHS and definitely not 6 RHS/1 LHS. because what happens if one of your only two natural LD gets hurt? the ratio will almost certainly be 4 RHS/3 LHS, with the third LD possibly being the seventh man. you can gamble on one right side guy making the adjustment, but you probably don't want to go into a tournament having to count on two or three.

barring injury, keith is automatic. after that, marc staal probably has the inside track. for the third LD hamhuis is in the conversation, along with del zotto, bouwmeester, vlasic, and others.

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08-18-2012, 06:41 PM
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For everyone saying Canada always tries to field an all-star D roster they've relied heavily on non all-star D like Seabrook, Foote, Brewer, Regehr in the past. Guys who play a great defensive game and can fit in on the big ice (well maybe not Regehr).

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08-18-2012, 09:00 PM
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I think you guys are being pretty optimistic, and overrating the importance of having the proper amount of right- and left-side D.

Team Canada will select the 7 best defenders, and Hamhuis is simply not one of them at this point. He'll get "consideration", but so will fifteen other Canadian defensemen.
With how little preparation the team gets for these types of tournaments, they will pick the roster so as few players as possible are playing an unfamiliar role or position (which is why they took Seabrook in 2010 when there were many better defensemen available). You simply can't expect to take a career RD and have him switch to LD while playing with a new partner against other top players.

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08-18-2012, 09:25 PM
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As much as I love Burr, there is no way that he makes the Olympic squad.
When they try and build a team they just jam as many of the best players in there as they can, irrespective of style of position. Ice 12 of the same player and 11 centres. We seem to throw out teams with 3 times as much talent as anyone else but it never seems to translate into dominance. IMHO a guy like Burrows would be a hell of a lot more use overall to the Canadian team than a yet another offensive star because he's a better fit even though the star is a better players. I think he'd be a great fit for someone like Toews in a shutdown/PK role - and still bringing ES production (Toews and Burrows are pretty clutch). Bergeron-Toews-Burrows would score while sucking the life out of opponents #1 lines, against teams with one enough talent to ice 1 or 2 really dangerous lines that would be deadly.

How well will he be playing at his age in 2 years? that's a more interesting question.


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08-18-2012, 09:27 PM
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Contenders for Team Canada
Doughty
Phaneuf
Letang
Weber
Keith
Seabrook
Pietrangelo
_____________

Shattenkirk
Burns
Staal
Hamhuis
Subban
Girardi

If everyone is healthy, Hamhuis has a very small chance at the bottom pairing or the 7th man, but there is just too much star power there for me to say he has a good shot at making the team. If there are injuries, then I'd consider saying he has a good shot.
Shattenkirk is American.

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With how little preparation the team gets for these types of tournaments, they will pick the roster so as few players as possible are playing an unfamiliar role or position (which is why they took Seabrook in 2010 when there were many better defensemen available). You simply can't expect to take a career RD and have him switch to LD while playing with a new partner against other top players.
Yeah, new system, new partner, new forwards and new defensive side - 2 weeks is a huge ask of anyone. I'd consider Seabrook again just for that reason, as of today

Keith-Seabrook
Hamhuis-Weber
Staal-Doughty
(Pietrangelo, Letang)

Who knows what happens between now and then. I wouldn't be surprised to see 3 of those guys not make the starting 6. I think Pietrangelo would bump Seabrook out. Hamhuis would like be replaced as well.


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I think you guys are being pretty optimistic, and overrating the importance of having the proper amount of right- and left-side D.

Team Canada will select the 7 best defenders, and Hamhuis is simply not one of them at this point. He'll get "consideration", but so will fifteen other Canadian defensemen.
I think you're seriously underrating the impact of a RHS d-man being thrown into olympic competition with limited prep time, a new partner, and on the LH side.

If it was an excess of LHS blueliners, then i'd tend to say it was an overrated concern. But for RHS defencemen, moving to the Left side is very unusual and extremely rare. Much more so than LHS having to play the Right side.

The only guy among the Right side depth who might be a fit on the left side, is Letang...and i still don't like that idea.

Not to say Hamhuis is a shoe-in or anything, he'll be in extremely tough to make it. But that Left side of the defence could be the 2014 team's real achilles heel.

I'd say Keith is a lock, and Staal is pretty close. That last LH spot will be up for grabs, and Hamhuis wouldn't be an outrageous choice, but i think others are more likely.

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08-19-2012, 02:29 PM
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There will be a lot of new faces in this years team.

I don't think/know Iginla, St. Louis, Boyle, Pronger, Niedermayer, Morrow, Heatley, Marleau, Thornton will be there in 2014.

Potential new faces?

Pietrangelo, Letang, Stamkos, M. Staal, Price, Giroux, Tavares, Benn, Eberle, Couture, Seguin, etc.

Can't wait.

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There will be a lot of new faces in this years team.

I don't think/know Iginla, St. Louis, Boyle, Pronger, Niedermayer, Morrow, Heatley, Marleau, Thornton will be there in 2014.

Potential new faces?

Pietrangelo, Letang, Stamkos, M. Staal, Price, Giroux, Tavares, Benn, Eberle, Couture, Seguin, etc.

Can't wait.
Definitely feels like time for a changing of the guard.

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Does M.Staal have the mobility for a large ice surface?

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Does M.Staal have the mobility for a large ice surface?
I do think Hamhuis' overall game is just more suited to the big ice surface. Not to mention that this past season wasn't Staal's best (admittedly coming off a concussion) and if that's the level he will play at going forward then I think he's far below Hamhuis.

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Hamhuis is one of the best defensive Dmen in the league, that alone should get him a shot.




But he's not flashy, physical or offensive enough to garuntee him a position. I could see him narrowly getting beat out by someone else who's a bigger threat to score.

It would be great to see though!

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