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08-18-2012, 01:40 PM
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Abbotsford heat to be bought by aquilinis?

Interesting.

http://www.vancouversun.com/touch/bu...tml?id=7108799

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This is a genius idea for so many reasons. Fingers crossed.

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This is a genius idea for so many reasons. Fingers crossed.
Completely agree. It would be an utter smashing success. Probably turn in to the best ahl franchise.

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I would immediately buy abbotsford season tickets if this was true

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Never did understand why the Flames decided to put their farm team there. This is for the best.

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Everyone knows Fire can't beat Aquaman

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That Abbotsford franchise would instantly become viable if it were Canucks kid playing there as opposed to the Flames.

With Chicago apparently wavering on whether to extend their agreement with the Canucks after this coming season, this would make sense.

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Never did understand why the Flames decided to put their farm team there. This is for the best.
I think they figured that the Flames had a bigger foothold in the Lower Mainland than they actually do

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Never really understood why Calgary decided Abbotsford would be a good home for the farm team. I guess the proximity makes sense as far call-ups go, but they could just as easily set a team up in Saskatoon or Regina and likely would have been far more successful as I imagine there are far more Flames' fans in Saskatchwen as well as a bigger desire for pro hockey.

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Never really understood why Calgary decided Abbotsford would be a good home for the farm team. I guess the proximity makes sense as far call-ups go, but they could just as easily set a team up in Saskatoon or Regina and likely would have been far more successful as I imagine there are far more Flames' fans in Saskatchwen as well as a bigger desire for pro hockey.
The City of Abbotsford was offering incentives to any AHL franchise to come occupy the arena. The City covers all financial losses for the Heat.

Nevertheless, it's a fantastic plan that should provide stability to the Fraser Valley hockey market. Wonder if you'll see a WHL team out there in the future again too. Still surprised the WHL pulled out the Chilliwack Bruins considering just how fast the Fraser Valley was growing.

AHL in Abbotsford with a Canucks farm team would be an instant success.

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That Abbotsford franchise would instantly become viable if it were Canucks kid playing there as opposed to the Flames.

With Chicago apparently wavering on whether to extend their agreement with the Canucks after this coming season, this would make sense.
I didn't know Chicago was wavering.

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I didn't know Chicago was wavering.
I think there's a conflict of interest... They're interested in winning, not developing prospects.

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I didn't know Chicago was wavering.
I think it was mentioned on Twitter at some point - might have been News1130 that stated it.

As stated above, the Wolves' group is interested in winning moreso than being a development team for the NHL.

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Chicago always had to have been seen as purely temporary affiliation agreement with the Canucks.

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I think it was mentioned on Twitter at some point - might have been News1130 that stated it.

As stated above, the Wolves' group is interested in winning moreso than being a development team for the NHL.
They really ought to be in the ECHL, then. They're just going to have the same problems with every NHL team they affiliate with.

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That would be fantastic!

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If it does go through. I now have a reason to visit some family down there . Good news.

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Having the farm team so close has some advantages. I just wish the nearest team wasn't in Oklahoma. If Canucks travel is bad, Heat travel has to be twice as bad.

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I gather the Heat aren't doing that well? If so and Aquilini is buying low this is a pretty smart move - as soon as you get the Canucks farm team in there the place will be packed. Make some money there.

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I think the added travel for the AHL folks would be off-set by the proximity to Vancouver. And of course, if the Heat were actually a Canucks affiliate instead of a Flames one they'd likely see a lot more attendance (I know I would try catching some games).

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I think there's a conflict of interest... They're interested in winning, not developing prospects.
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I think it was mentioned on Twitter at some point - might have been News1130 that stated it.

As stated above, the Wolves' group is interested in winning moreso than being a development team for the NHL.
Incorrect and a common misconception. Perhaps that's what they did with an uncooperative and often neglectful Atlanta group, but not us.

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Incorrect and a common misconception. Perhaps that's what they did with an uncooperative and often neglectful Atlanta group, but not us.
Yup, I dont think there any harm done by affiliating with them. The Vancouver management would probably just prefer to be as hands-on with their prospects as possible, closer monitoring can only be a good thing for them.

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Having the farm team so close has some advantages. I just wish the nearest team wasn't in Oklahoma. If Canucks travel is bad, Heat travel has to be twice as bad.
well if those kids are going to flying in our planes someday, i guess they should get used to the long miles and constant time zone changes.

incidentally, might that be another reason for us to draft more WHL guys? they are used to much tougher travel than guys from the O and the Q.

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The City of Abbotsford was offering incentives to any AHL franchise to come occupy the arena. The City covers all financial losses for the Heat.
Bingo.

No lose situation for the Flames. Unfortunately for the city of Abbotsford - it was simply silly to essentially "underwrite" all the losses (and you know there would be losses for an AHL affiliate of the rival of the local NHL team).

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I think the added travel for the AHL folks would be off-set by the proximity to Vancouver. And of course, if the Heat were actually a Canucks affiliate instead of a Flames one they'd likely see a lot more attendance (I know I would try catching some games).
I'm not so sure about that. I think it would depend on whether they can have homestands at around the same time the Canucks do. That enables them to be close to have their call-ups. But, you spend 1/2 of the time on the road and all of the Abby's teams games are at least in the Central time zone or further. Business side of things, basically all home games are a 2 set contest right? Not going to fly in the Aeroes, Rampage, Stars, Admirals, etc. for a 1 game affair. Is that something Abby fans enjoy, because that's the way it's gotta be, just given their distance from all other AHL teams.

Then with the homestand front, do you really want the AHL team to have games on the same night as the NHL club. That's something Aquaman needs to make sure he researches too.

Overall, my opinion is that it's better to have the AHL team closer to their opponents. Rather see the kids get in extra practice or off-ice conditioning that dealing with more travel. Rather see Rodin work on getting stronger in the gym, Cannata taking extra shots, and anyone who needs work on their skating putting in the extra work.

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