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08-21-2012, 02:20 AM
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A lot of the slum rooms in the DTES are more expensive per sq than some of the most expensive places in Vancouver. Weird is right.
I read recently that the DTES had the most expensive square footage in the city, and it is certainly possible. Slumlords will charge $50 or more over the welfare rates for disgusting single rooms, and can get away with it. But there are also some nice co-ops which are generally very good, and multiple family houses.

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Used to live in the Shaughnessy area. I think Danny lives around there too because I saw him quite a few times and saw him picking up his daughter from daycare/pre-school quite a few times.

I liked it until someone almost broke into my house
Yeah he does, he frequently is in the Safeway on Oak and King Ed.

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I read recently that the DTES had the most expensive square footage in the city, and it is certainly possible. Slumlords will charge $50 or more over the welfare rates for disgusting single rooms, and can get away with it. But there are also some nice co-ops which are generally very good, and multiple family houses.
It's really ridiculous, there is so much room for opportunity and growth but when you have people who aren't able to get up and leave town pay among the highest housing rates in the WORLD, you know you have a problem.

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DBR, my wife is all of 120 lbs maybe and she has little issue walking here at night. Comm/Broadway corner can be sketchy, but no worse than any other part of the city at night. It was no better in Yaletown, just different.

But there certainly is petty crime crap that is a nuisance. Lock your car, even when it's moving.
My wife is as well, and like I said I don't think anything is going to happen but I just don't feel vulnerable in ways that others do.

I would say that the chances of her having a real safety issue are low, however the chances of her feeling unsafe around here are relatively high (and not altogether unreasonable in my opinion).

It's just one of those things where in this neighbourhood some people will think about their safety - which can be stressful in and of itself - whereas in other neighbourhoods it's something most people don't even stop to consider beyond looking both ways when they cross the street.

I wouldn't avoid this neighbourhood based on that fact and I don't think she would either - we're not talking about the downtown east side or anything like that - but it's still a consideration here.

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DITR: Mirchi is this fantastic Indian food restaurant down in Marpole so it's not really in the area. Other than that, this area is top notch, pristine, clean and beautiful. Walking by some of the spectacular houses late at night can be breath taking.
Mirchi is fantastic, my wife used to live in the area back when we were dating and we visited or took out from there frequently. Super friendly staff as well. There's a nice Japanese place on Oak also around 64th, too.

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I live in roughly Mount Pleasant, pay a bit over 800 for a pretty big 2br. Can't complain about that.

Character: An absolutely awesome neighbourhood that is in the process of being turned into more of the same condos with chain stores in the bottom ******** that is overrunning the rest of the city. A shame. I give it 5 years. Once the Rize goes in, it's basically all over.

Food: Tons of options at varying levels of quality and price. Vegetarian options abound, which is nice.

Safety: Like most places, you're generally going to be fine.

Transit: Covered more than well. Can't complain.

Amentities: Everything everywhere. I live 10 min walk from about 6 parks, a library and community centre, multiple grocery stores, pharmacies, etc. Extremely walkable/bikeable neighbourhood. Don't own a car and don't miss it aside from getting out of town.

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2. Nightlife- Vancouver's night life is pretty lame, other than the Granville strip and a couple of clubs in Gastown, there isn't much going on at night.
What a load of *********. "Aside from the most uninteresting examples of nightlife imaginable, there's nothing interesting going on at all!" Geez.

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Richmond.

Price: Inflated real estate prices because Richmond is Chinese immigrants top destination. Watching the non-Chinese folks in my block move out one after another, relocating in White Rock, Langley, Cloverdale, Coquitlam, etc. Housing price here more than doubled around where I live for the last decade. 5/10

Traffic: Sucks. I can crawl faster on No.3 Road from Granville to Cambie than driving.

Character: Sucks. People don't care about each other. No hellos. No nods. Hell, if your neighbour hears your home alarm going ******* they'd just ignore it and won't bother calling the cops even if they see that your house is getting robbed. Last time I went to McDonald's at Blundell Center, I saw some Chinese lady bargaining for a cheaper price with the staff like it's a bazaar. 0.5/10

Food: Decent. High restaurant density around No.3 and Alexandra. Lacking in proper western food. Has great Asian food. 8/10

Safety: 9/10. Asian people like staying home, watching TV or playing video games. Not much going on here. Anything serious goes down there's only 3 escape routes, Arthur Laing, Route 91 and Blaine.
Transit: Meh.

Amenities: Not too bad. 3 ice rinks, plenty of outdoor basketball courts, parks, the dike, the wharf, temples, churches, etc. 9/10.

Diamond in the rough: RIC's M-F 9AM-3PM $5 stick and puck sessions.

Gets an 8/10 overall if you don't care about interacting with your neighbours and strangers and/or already own a piece of real estate here.
Pretty much bang on.
Richmond just sucks.

If you ever wonder where Richmondites are from Friday to Sunday, check out the Internet cafes and karoke bars.
They are all there.

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08-21-2012, 03:27 AM
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There are some NICE houses there. I think I saw Mike Gillis leave his house somewhere around 46th and Cartier... Well it very well could have been another heafty older white guy that lacked sleep but it seemed like a Gillis type house and he hoped into a GM-like sports car =p
"Gillis type house"? What's that?

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I just moved from Highgate/Edmonds a few months ago. I was on Walker. It was OK at first but I really grew to hate it. My neighbours sucked and the neighghbourhood was grungy. The area is definitely changing but that creepy element is still very prevalent. It never felt unsafe and I never had any incidents but I still wouldn't want to walk around by myself at night. I'm glad to be gone. I think in about 10-15 years when they tear down some of the old sleaze buildings. The porn store and pawn shop really doesn't help matters.

I'm now in "brow of the hill" in New Westminster (up 8th from the River Market/Quay on Queens Ave) and I like it a lot more. Nice heritage homes and I have a hell of a view. I can see all the way to the gulf islands from my balcony. I'm not much of a nightlife guy but the Skytrain is close and I have all the amenities I need close by. It gets quiet at night and I never feel unsafe.
I lived in New West and I hated it. Really. I'd rather chew my arm off than move from here back down the hill. The porn store's a graveyard (we do have the internet here now) and the pawnshop's not even a patch on the ones up by Metrotown. I can see the north shore mountains from my balcony. Tons of natural light, nice building, and managers who never say boo to me even though I smoke and grill steaks on the balcony. The neighbourhood does depend very heavily on what street you're on and which buildings are around you. I'm lucky; I'n in a nice bit. It is hit and miss around here, I'll give you that. I'd still live on the sleaziest block in Burnaby than move back to New West, though. Just my opinion.

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08-21-2012, 03:28 AM
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Pretty much bang on.
Richmond just sucks.

If you ever wonder where Richmondites are from Friday to Sunday, check out the Internet cafes and karoke bars.
They are all there.
One day after classes me and my friend decided to go play pool in Richmond at Q1 and we were walking up to the building and there were probably 30-50 stereotypical looking Asian gamers (some with the thin hair mustaches too) and we thought it was the weirdest thing. Then we got into Q1 and found out the Power was out in the area and pool place was right next to an Internet Cafe.

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I lived in New West and I hated it. Really. I'd rather chew my arm off than move from here back down the hill. The porn store's a graveyard (we do have the internet here now) and the pawnshop's not even a patch on the ones up by Metrotown. I can see the north shore mountains from my balcony. Tons of natural light, nice building, and managers who never say boo to me even though I smoke and grill steaks on the balcony. The neighbourhood does depend very heavily on what street you're on and which buildings are around you. I'm lucky; I'n in a nice bit. It is hit and miss around here, I'll give you that. I'd still live on the sleaziest block in Burnaby than move back to New West, though. Just my opinion.
Whatever works for you. I can't speak to where you're living and it sounds like you're happy. That neighbourhood is definitely hit or miss. I think New West is the same way. I know I'm happy. The building is quiet, the neighbours are nice, and I'm close to work.

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One day after classes me and my friend decided to go play pool in Richmond at Q1 and we were walking up to the building and there were probably 30-50 stereotypical looking Asian gamers (some with the thin hair mustaches too) and we thought it was the weirdest thing. Then we got into Q1 and found out the Power was out in the area and pool place was right next to an Internet Cafe.
I always wonder why...
They probably have a even more powerful machine at home.

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One day after classes me and my friend decided to go play pool in Richmond at Q1 and we were walking up to the building and there were probably 30-50 stereotypical looking Asian gamers (some with the thin hair mustaches too) and we thought it was the weirdest thing. Then we got into Q1 and found out the Power was out in the area and pool place was right next to an Internet Cafe.
I'll bet you that kid with the thin mustache and no adam's apple is driving a $200,000 car with an L sign on the back of it.

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Pretty much bang on.
Richmond just sucks.

If you ever wonder where Richmondites are from Friday to Sunday, check out the Internet cafes and karoke bars.
They are all there.
Or at bubble tea shops playing big 2. The sports bars in Richmond blow too. Only the Flying Beaver is good and even that's not really in Richmond.

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I'll bet you that kid with the thin mustache and no adam's apple is driving a $200,000 car with an L sign on the back of it.
HA, you wish

And I wish about the car, that would be dope. My last car was a 2005 Echo so I'd take just about anything over that

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Feebster, as someone who gags at the smell of marijuana do you find it hard to withstand living in Vancouver? Do police scoff at you if you report something like smelling marijuana from your neighbors? I know my relatives in Burnaby reported a grow-op, but smelling the strong scent of a bunch of plants and smelling a joint are two very different things.
It seems like that would be something that would be very hard to be against living in that city.
I do hope I'm not crossing any boundaries here. I do feel bad for those who do not enjoy the smell if they have not smoked it but that being said, it is Vancouver. I mean, I go downtown and all I smell is marijuana and cigarette smoke. It would be pretty tough to me if you were not able to bear that smell and live in Vancouver. And to go on record, I don't know why they don't just legalize it...but it is what it is. I do agree with medhatcanuck, a weird choice of place to live if you weren't able to bear it :/

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I do hope I'm not crossing any boundaries here. I do feel bad for those who do not enjoy the smell if they have not smoked it but that being said, it is Vancouver. I mean, I go downtown and all I smell is marijuana and cigarette smoke. It would be pretty tough to me if you were not able to bear that smell and live in Vancouver. And to go on record, I don't know why they don't just legalize it...but it is what it is. I do agree with medhatcanuck, a weird choice of place to live if you weren't able to bear it :/
You make Vancouver sound like one giant hot box I also don't particularly like the smell of marijuana (granted I don't live downtown) but I rarely find it an issue in the places I go. It's not like you walk into a bar downtown and get hit with a cloud of it.

In terms of legalizing it. I'm with you, it's not something I've tried before but from what I've seen, what I've learned it's not NEARLY as bad as alcohol. Tax it heavily and it could be a win-win. It's one of those things I think is merely a matter of time. The topic, while less so now, is still somewhat taboo.

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To be honest, living in Vancouver has been underwhelming for me. I visited regularly and absolutely LOVED Vancouver prior to moving, but I haven't enjoyed living here and I'm not sure I'll be staying all that long. The cost of living, weather, and a number of other factors make me think that this just isn't the place for me long-term. However, I can certainly understand why so many people love it here.
I agree with this a lot.

Lived in the city for a year & a half around Langara. Vancouver is beautiful for the 3 months when its sunny but the rest of the time it is gloomy. Whenever people ask me my opinion I have on living in Vancouver I say "Over priced & overrated", it really is a place where you need to have a job that pays a lot better then $10/hr. My biggest pet peeve is the transit system, great to get around, fantastic timing but the way they pack people in & how rude people are disgusts me. When in Richmond the amount of young asian males that continually don't give their seats to old folks & pretend to sleep when the old folks try to ask to sit down makes me want to slap someone.

Also if you're not in school or from here I found it a little hard to make friends. Too many up tight cliches or flakes.

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I agree with this a lot.

Lived in the city for a year & a half around Langara. Vancouver is beautiful for the 3 months when its sunny but the rest of the time it is gloomy. Whenever people ask me my opinion I have on living in Vancouver I say "Over priced & overrated", it really is a place where you need to have a job that pays a lot better then $10/hr. My biggest pet peeve is the transit system, great to get around, fantastic timing but the way they pack people in & how rude people are disgusts me. When in Richmond the amount of young asian males that continually don't give their seats to old folks & pretend to sleep when the old folks try to ask to sit down makes me want to slap someone.

Also if you're not in school or from here I found it a little hard to make friends. Too many up tight cliches or flakes.
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For the most part the people who like the smell of marijuana are the people who smoke lots of it, and those who don't smoke, don't care or don't like the smell. But with most all things it's something you get use to if your around it enough.

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You make Vancouver sound like one giant hot box I also don't particularly like the smell of marijuana (granted I don't live downtown) but I rarely find it an issue in the places I go. It's not like you walk into a bar downtown and get hit with a cloud of it.

In terms of legalizing it. I'm with you, it's not something I've tried before but from what I've seen, what I've learned it's not NEARLY as bad as alcohol. Tax it heavily and it could be a win-win. It's one of those things I think is merely a matter of time. The topic, while less so now, is still somewhat taboo.
It's not like one giant hot box at all, but marijuana is definitely prevalent. At least everyone I know over the age of 16 does or has done it, and I don't condone it. It's up to you to make your own decisions, but I do believe it should be regulated like alcohol. There is just so much money to be made in that business it would be stupid not to regulate it sooner or later. IMO there is more money in that business than the alcohol business. The less taboo it is the better for everyone involved. People should educate themselves better. I am very libertarian in my thinking, but people should educate themselves and everyone would benefit. Not just on this topic, but in politics in general.

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For the most part the people who like the smell of marijuana are the people who smoke lots of it, and those who don't smoke, don't care or don't like the smell. But with most all things it's something you get use to if your around it enough.
Yeah, more or less. It reminds me of when I went to watch a Mariners game at Safeco, the place reeked of garlic from garlic fries. Next time we went and got garlic fries, the place smelt a whole lot better. To be honest, that smell doesn't bother me much anymore. It only irritates me when I open my window to my room and my neighbours stink up my room.

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Theres a lot I love about Vancouver and more than most I took advantage of what makes Vancouver unique while growing up there.

Having just spent some time there on my holidays its only reconfirmed what I already knew, that I would most likely never live there again.


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Cracker...to be honest, I think Vancouver is a better city to visit than live personally.

After the novelty wears off, you are left with a pretty bland and non-vibrant city that is really expensive to live in. It is why I moved and I never plan on moving back. Great place to grow up, but for a young professional, its kind of foolish to stay there. There isn't much opportunity there and it's cost of living is way too high for a young worker.
Spot on. The big problem is the housing prices to income levels. This has been brought on by cheap (for now) credit. Once those interest rates go up.

But the GVRD is in a bit of a pickle because of how out of whack the multiple is.

My age group is right at the tipping point if you will. Some of my friends should be alright as they bought in their mid twenties before the boom but now any of my friends who have been renting and wants to buy is pretty much screwed.

But this should all change once the crash comes. Already house prices are levelling and the condo prices seem to be set for a dip. With a bunch of people on average salaries taking credit to buy expensive houses there very well could be a default party.


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^ You might have some form of SAD (Seasonal affective disorder) if the weather really gets to you sometimes. I think it's pretty common (or at least, more common) in Vancouver compared to a lot of other cities since it rains so often here.
I quite like the rain and never really had an issue with it growing up there but having lived in several places around the world including the middle east and australia places like Vancouver and the British Isles really does take getting used to.

Its certainly hard to be jovial when you wake up and drive to work in the dark pouring rain. Look out your window at work to dreary skies pouring rain and drive back home at 5 pm in the dark pouring rain. lol

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I agree with this a lot.

Lived in the city for a year & a half around Langara. Vancouver is beautiful for the 3 months when its sunny but the rest of the time it is gloomy. Whenever people ask me my opinion I have on living in Vancouver I say "Over priced & overrated", it really is a place where you need to have a job that pays a lot better then $10/hr. My biggest pet peeve is the transit system, great to get around, fantastic timing but the way they pack people in & how rude people are disgusts me. When in Richmond the amount of young asian males that continually don't give their seats to old folks & pretend to sleep when the old folks try to ask to sit down makes me want to slap someone.

Also if you're not in school or from here I found it a little hard to make friends. Too many up tight cliches or flakes.

3 months of the year if your lucky. I remember back in about 1999 I worked at a summer camp for the summer. I was outside for the whole summer and every week there was only one day of the week where it wasnt over cast and/or raining.

Even a few weeks back when we were visiting vancouver we did some shopping the first day, which was brilliantly sunny, and forgetting it was vancouver I thought I take my wife up to grouse and cypress (we wanted to do the tram). Woke up to over cast skies and clouds covering the tops of mountains so there went that idea!


As disgustingly hot as it gets here in the persian gulf I never even consider whether it will be sunny or not as it always is. As much as 4 months of the year are crappy hot and humid to do anything the rest of the year is fantastic and even the heat and humidity of the summer do not prevent simple things like walking out into my backyard with shorts on.

If I need rain and beautiful mountains and forests I am a short flight away from many destinations offering this.

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Before I talk about Bellingham/ Whatcom County, I have lived in:

West Van (grew up there) North Van (lived and worked there) 5 places in Surrey, White Rock, Abbotsford, Mission, Langley, Burnaby, Chilliwack and Hope.

Price - a house is about 1/3 the price in White Rock. You can buy a brand new house for $275,000. $400K gets you a 2500 + sq ft house.

Character - what can I say, its a smaller town. I don't live in the downtown core.

Food - Lots of small restaurants, and great Mex in the taco trucks on Meridian. We do one of the many Bobs Burgers and Brew regularly - more food than we can eat for $10, and a pitcher of Mack and Jacks is $12.

Safety - We often don't lock our doors ....

Amenities - golf is cheaper, lots of it, full of Canadians. Hockey drop in is $8, skiing is cheaper, every store carries beer wine and spirits at half the price of Vancouver.

If you don't work, (I am retired) health care is a *****. Basically $10000 / year for catastrophic coverage, our deductable is nearly $10,000, and then they only pay 80%. However, there are no waits if you need something. But you PAY for it.

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I was curious to know if anyone could tell me if there was anywhere within a decent driving distance from Vancouver where you can get like a decent amount of property i.e like a decent size house in the country with an acre of land... I'm asking as right now my gf and i are eyeing a move to Vancouver within the next year and will most likely be living in the city in a small condo while we are working professionals but once the time comes to settle down and have kids we've always said we'd like to live outside the city limits with a nice big property.. but Im curious to know if that's even possible in the area?

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I was curious to know if anyone could tell me if there was anywhere within a decent driving distance from Vancouver where you can get like a decent amount of property i.e like a decent size house in the country with an acre of land... I'm asking as right now my gf and i are eyeing a move to Vancouver within the next year and will most likely be living in the city in a small condo while we are working professionals but once the time comes to settle down and have kids we've always said we'd like to live outside the city limits with a nice big property.. but Im curious to know if that's even possible in the area?
By my estimate my buddy paid about $1million for an acre near White Rock which is a great place to live for a family. Did renos on the house and its stunning. But hes minted.

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Before I talk about Bellingham/ Whatcom County, I have lived in:

West Van (grew up there) North Van (lived and worked there) 5 places in Surrey, White Rock, Abbotsford, Mission, Langley, Burnaby, Chilliwack and Hope.

Price - a house is about 1/3 the price in White Rock. You can buy a brand new house for $275,000. $400K gets you a 2500 + sq ft house.

Character - what can I say, its a smaller town. I don't live in the downtown core.

Food - Lots of small restaurants, and great Mex in the taco trucks on Meridian. We do one of the many Bobs Burgers and Brew regularly - more food than we can eat for $10, and a pitcher of Mack and Jacks is $12.

Safety - We often don't lock our doors ....

Amenities - golf is cheaper, lots of it, full of Canadians. Hockey drop in is $8, skiing is cheaper, every store carries beer wine and spirits at half the price of Vancouver.

If you don't work, (I am retired) health care is a *****. Basically $10000 / year for catastrophic coverage, our deductable is nearly $10,000, and then they only pay 80%. However, there are no waits if you need something. But you PAY for it.

Funny when I was in Canada a few weeks back my buddy and I were talking about Bham. Hes renting and the house market now is insane in Vancouver. He wants to move to the states but his wife doesnt so he was mentioning Bham as a distantly possible location.

Only thing I dont like about the place is the pulp mill smell. But its cool as ****.

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I was curious to know if anyone could tell me if there was anywhere within a decent driving distance from Vancouver where you can get like a decent amount of property i.e like a decent size house in the country with an acre of land... I'm asking as right now my gf and i are eyeing a move to Vancouver within the next year and will most likely be living in the city in a small condo while we are working professionals but once the time comes to settle down and have kids we've always said we'd like to live outside the city limits with a nice big property.. but Im curious to know if that's even possible in the area?
The further you get out into the Fraser Valley the bigger the properties get. Mission, Matsqui, Chilliwack, Cloverdale, ect. There are lots of properties out there, they are not going to be that cheap though. Also places like Delta, Surrey, and Tswwassen/Ladner have properties like this as well.

They are available, but anything close is going to cost a pretty penny.

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