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08-20-2012, 10:56 PM
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Imo rielly potential #1 dman, murray potential #2 dman.

Murray is more likely to meet his potential however
This is pretty much what I have heard and to a lesser extent seen from the two prospects. Both have very high ceilings and though Reilly's is higher Murray appears a safer bet to reach his ceiling. I do wonder where Reilly would have been selected had he played a full season last year but since he did not, it is really hard to even guess just what we have here. His raw talent is something we have not seen in Leafland in many years.

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08-20-2012, 10:58 PM
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Murray got an 8.0B. Does Rielly getting an 8.5C sound right then?

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08-20-2012, 11:06 PM
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reilly has more offensive potential, murray is a much safer pick imo

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08-20-2012, 11:12 PM
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Ryan Murray is one smooth customer, I imagine you could compare him to the way a 2nd overall defenseman like Wade Redden could step into the NHL as a teenager and turn a last place team into a respectable one. I think he could gradually build up a pretty good offensive game too.

I can only hope that Rielly works out as our Letang/Karlsson/Doughty homerun, we need that spark so badly, it could really re-energize the organization. In that respect I also prefer Rielly.

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08-20-2012, 11:19 PM
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Lets be clear to everyone:
Ryan Murray is NOT the Luke Schenn of the 2012 draft.

Ya the offense isnt always existant, but more often than not its because Murray chooses not to rush the puck like others. His first pass is amazing (see the Worlds) his skating in tight areas is phenominal, and hes well positioned in the D zone

Ryan Murray to me is easily the smartest defenceman to come out of the CHL in the last 10 - 15 years
Wow, homer post much?

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08-20-2012, 11:20 PM
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Rielly was always called the most dynamic dman, prior to getting
injured. Murray does everything well but not spectacularly. I also
thought that he will outpoint Murray this coming season (If Murray
plays in the W). I'm glad to see I have some backup, even though
he is just a blogger.



What do you think?
Murray = safe, reliable d-man that is ready to play in the NHL now.

Rielly = high reward, offensively gifted d-man that isn't ready to play in the NHL yet.

$20 says that Rielly is the best d-man out of this draft class when we look back on it in 5 or so years, and is on Yakupov and Galchenyuk level overall.

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08-20-2012, 11:22 PM
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Murray = safe, reliable d-man that is ready to play in the NHL now.

Rielly = high reward, offensively gifted d-man that isn't ready to play in the NHL yet.

$20 says that Rielly is the best d-man out of this draft class when we look back on it in 5 or so years, and is on Yakupov and Galchenyuk level overall.
Either him or Dumba but ya, he has pretty decent chances.

Great pick up.

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08-21-2012, 12:08 AM
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I would have been extremely dissappointed if we had picked murray.

I was ecstatic when we picked rielly.

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08-21-2012, 12:25 AM
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Either him or Dumba but ya, he has pretty decent chances.

Great pick up.
If Dumba becomes a top 4 defemseman I will be impressed, I don't see him going far.

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08-21-2012, 12:26 AM
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I'll be honest, I clearly wanted Galchenyuk or Forsberg but I'm ecstatic with Rielly. Really didn't see that one coming. I'm betting on him and Gally being real good, real soon.

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08-21-2012, 12:34 AM
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This kid attained a point per game in his draft year as a junior (in the lower scoring WHL no less), not even recent draft picks like Murray, Reinhart or Hamilton have done that. If it weren't for his knee injury no way he would have been available at number 5. Another year to dominate in junior will do wonders for Rielly.

Knowledgable NHL scouts have compared Rielly to Duncan Keith, Kris Letang or even Karlsson. This was a great pick. We haven`t had a blueline quarterback like this since the days of Salming. Gardiner is good. I think this kid will be even better.

Give him 2-3 years longer to develop and I think he'll be a top pairing d-man.

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08-21-2012, 12:41 AM
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I'll be honest, I clearly wanted Galchenyuk or Forsberg but I'm ecstatic with Rielly. Really didn't see that one coming. I'm betting on him and Gally being real good, real soon.
I didn't want Forsberg... he was being compared to Corey Perry but I don't see it, he just seems too nice to play like Perry . If we went D, I wanted Rielly.

In order of preference, on draft day, I wanted:

Gally
Grigorenko
Rielly.

Knowing that we weren't the only ones that passed on Grigorenko... plus I wasn't very impressed with his play in that short series, I'm glad we passed on him.

Gally and Rielly are similar in so many ways despite playing different positions; both had ACL injuries, both are gym rats, both have great work ethic and they both seem determined.

It's definitely going to be fun watching how they develop.

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08-21-2012, 12:42 AM
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Rielly is a game breaking talent that will help win us some big games in the future. Explosive skating, elite vision, great passing skills, and most of all great hockey smarts are all part of the toolbox that he possesses. Should be exciting following him next season in Moose Jaw.


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08-21-2012, 02:33 AM
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Reilly will almost certainly be the better player because murray Unfortunitly got picked by Columbus, and it's almost a gaurenteed they will find a way to screw him up, just like all there other top picks. Toronto hasn't been great ethier but they havent had the top picks CLB have had.

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08-21-2012, 02:49 AM
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Ya, ya we get it you guys got Galy I would of loved to have him but we both got great prospects! We could've used that potential 1C but I'm quite happy with Rielly even though I actually swore at the tv when Burke called his name.
Can you imagine the uproar if we picked Rielly with Galchenyuk on the board? (Although, I'm sure that was the situation Burke was referring to when he mentioned drafting by position)

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08-21-2012, 03:13 AM
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I have watched both play a lot.....lets not forget that Murray is a year older when it comes to hockey. He has played 3 full seasons already in the WHL.

There is nothing unsafe about picking Rielly. He is the real deal, he does everything that Murray can do and more.

We got the better player if he was not injured this year he would have went at 2 at worst and most likely the top pick.

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08-21-2012, 03:20 AM
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I heard Murray can walk on water.


Oh, wait, news just in. Rielly actually skates on water and is thus the more effective player.

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08-21-2012, 05:26 AM
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well, they did say he was ranked #1 overall for them

guess they weren't bluffing

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08-21-2012, 07:14 AM
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I didn't want Forsberg... he was being compared to Corey Perry but I don't see it, he just seems too nice to play like Perry . If we went D, I wanted Rielly.

In order of preference, on draft day, I wanted:

Gally
Grigorenko
Rielly.

Knowing that we weren't the only ones that passed on Grigorenko... plus I wasn't very impressed with his play in that short series, I'm glad we passed on him.

Gally and Rielly are similar in so many ways despite playing different positions; both had ACL injuries, both are gym rats, both have great work ethic and they both seem determined.

It's definitely going to be fun watching how they develop.
Rielly is little risk to me, once his combine results were in his injury should have been the least of concerns. On the run up to the draft, we knew this was a Defenceman's draft. I would have had no problems drafting Dumba, Murray or Rielly. Think all 3 will be fine NHL defencemen. All different in styles, but all impact players.

Mathew and Morgan are also 5 to 7 months younger than Murray. For now Murray has the edge. He will be a very solid top pairing D man in the NHL for years to come. But it's going to be interesting who is the best D man from this draft years from now. Ie. Trouba, Lindholm, Koekkoek, Pouliot, Matheson, Matta, Finn?

Time will tell.

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08-21-2012, 07:23 AM
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Reilly is like our Kadri on defense!

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08-21-2012, 08:13 AM
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Reilly is like our Kadri on defense!
So people are going to call him a bust if he doesn't break in his 1st year or 2nd year after his draft, and produce all-star numbers right away? Nice!

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08-21-2012, 08:46 AM
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Murray brings everything that you can ask for in a prospect or player. His skill level doesn't scream flashiness that some expect from their prospect or player, however regardless of the situation, he is always effective. He's like the western Alex Pietrangelo to me, still developing his offense and what not but a rock solid guy to have in the back end.

Rielly on the other hand, has his offense and skating probably pro level for his age, but he still has work to do.

In short, one is a sure shot safe prospect, while the other is high risk high reward prospect
I respectfully disagree about Rielly being a high risk prospect. If there were questions about his size, strength or hockey sense than I might agree...but all of those are no worse than average. Unless you are hinting at his injured knee? I don't see that as a problem as he did return from injury and play decently plus made a good showing at the combine.

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Well, if it was confirmed on twitter.....
...by a writer for the Edmonton Journal...

I can't say I've seen or read enough about these guys to determine who's better now, or in the future.

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08-21-2012, 10:09 AM
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Everyone is going to pick Rielly despite the fact that most haven't really seen either of them play a significant amount of times.
How true it is. I've never heard of either guy before the draft but I will pick Reilly because he was drafted by Burke.

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I would have been extremely dissappointed if we had picked murray.

I was ecstatic when we picked rielly.
Why?

A Murray-Phaneuf pairing would be awesome.

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