Hockey IQ is the number 1 limiting factor that prevents a defenceman with all the "tools" from becoming a franchise player.
Thats pretty much the difference between Phaneuf and Weber for example. And considering both Murray and Rielly have extremely high hockey IQ, both have the potential to become #1 Dmen.
Some #1 Dmen dont have a ton of size, or dont play physical, or dont have the best shots, etc. but all of them have high hockey IQ, its a requirement for being a top notch defender in the NHL. Which bodes well for both of these young guys.
Hockey IQ is also the #1 reason why guys without elite NHL skills can misleadingly look elite at the junior level.
Fair enough, but Rielly has extremely strong skating/puck skills compared to his peers, so he's not just an average skater/puck mover with elite "IQ".
Not to mention you can work on your skating, your passing, your shooting, etc. but its very difficult to "teach" the ability to read plays before they unfold, proper defensive positioning, be calm under pressure, and make smart split second decisions.
This kid attained a point per game in his draft year as a junior (in the lower scoring WHL no less), not even recent draft picks like Murray, Reinhart or Hamilton have done that. If it weren't for his knee injury no way he would have been available at number 5. Another year to dominate in junior will do wonders for Rielly.
Knowledgable NHL scouts have compared Rielly to Duncan Keith, Kris Letang or even Karlsson. This was a great pick. We haven`t had a blueline quarterback like this since the days of Salming. Gardiner is good. I think this kid will be even better.
Give him 2-3 years longer to develop and I think he'll be a top pairing d-man.
I'm not sure that's true...
The OHL had 14 players over 78 points last season. The WHL had 21. OHL had 6 teams over 250 goals. WHL had 11.
Ryan Murray is one smooth customer, I imagine you could compare him to the way a 2nd overall defenseman like Wade Redden could step into the NHL as a teenager and turn a last place team into a respectable one. I think he could gradually build up a pretty good offensive game too.
I can only hope that Rielly works out as our Letang/Karlsson/Doughty homerun, we need that spark so badly, it could really re-energize the organization. In that respect I also prefer Rielly.
Doughty? I don't think so. He's more physical.
Letang/Karlsson? yes. Rielly could be as good and better than them.
I would rather have reilly. You cant teach that skill he has, good playmaking skills, elite vision, great hockey IQ
I wouldn't say he is a high risk, his combine results were awesome, his injury is fully healed now. However, I would say he is a slight risk.
Murray is just anoter shut down dman who is a more safer pick.
I respectfully disagree about Rielly being a high risk prospect. If there were questions about his size, strength or hockey sense than I might agree...but all of those are no worse than average. Unless you are hinting at his injured knee? I don't see that as a problem as he did return from injury and play decently plus made a good showing at the combine.
Originally Posted by johnnyutah
I wouldn't say Rielly is high risk, i would say hes more like slight risk
I dunno...I've always seen him as a player with the capability of going very high or just be a special teams player. I like him and glad we picked him up when we decide to selected a defensemen, but even so...there are risks with this guy as he still has to improve other aspects of him, not just skills set.