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08-22-2012, 02:45 PM
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Seabrook vs. Edler

There has been some discussion in a Luongo-P. Kane trade thread about the value of Edler. Invariably, fans of one team view Edler as top pairing Dman, even top 15 in the league (i.e. a true No. 1). There has been a comparison to Seabrook too.

This is a poll comparing Seabrook vs Edler, now and in the future. Who would you want?

Seabrook: http://blackhawks.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8470607
Edler: http://canucks.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8471303

Edit: Can't add a poll. Mods: Edler now/future; Edler now/Seabrook future; Seabrook now/future; Seabrook now/Edler future.

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08-22-2012, 02:49 PM
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Edler on his game>Seabrook>Edler off his game.

That said, I take Edler because he there's a pretty good chance he can work on his consistency.

Although I suppose Seabrook would be the "safer" choice.

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08-22-2012, 03:03 PM
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Edler because the offensive gap between the two is bigger than the one defensively. Edler on his game is as good defensively as Seabrook, but he is very inconsistent. Edler, but it's very close

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08-22-2012, 03:58 PM
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Seabrook gets horribly underrated by non-Hawk fans around here. It's him.

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08-22-2012, 04:12 PM
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Seabrook is far more proven as a defensive presence, and has shown the ability time and time again to shut down the elite offensive players in the NHL. Edler does not even play the shutdown role on his own team.

Edler clearly has the advantage offensively, no one is disputing that.

But which category is more important for a defenseman? And it isn't like Seabrook is a chump in the offensive part of the game - his first pass is ridiculously underrated and is actually probably better than Edler's.

Edler has not shown himself to be capable of neutralizing the opposition's highest scorers.

Seabrook is a better overall defenseman.

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08-22-2012, 04:30 PM
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I'd take Seabrook no question

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I'd take Seabrook no question
I agree.Seabrook is underrated on this board.

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Seabrook AINERC

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Seabrook. He is very good.

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08-22-2012, 07:02 PM
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I'd easily rather have Seabrook. Consistency and he has a RH shoot that would fit in perfectly for the Rangers.

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Seabrook is far more proven as a defensive presence, and has shown the ability time and time again to shut down the elite offensive players in the NHL. Edler does not even play the shutdown role on his own team.

Edler clearly has the advantage offensively, no one is disputing that.

But which category is more important for a defenseman? And it isn't like Seabrook is a chump in the offensive part of the game - his first pass is ridiculously underrated and is actually probably better than Edler's.

Edler has not shown himself to be capable of neutralizing the opposition's highest scorers.

Seabrook is a better overall defenseman.
So by this logic, Seabrook>Karlsson.

Edler is significantly better offensively, and is more than capable defensively. I think he's about one step away from fixing his consistency and becoming the dominant player he can be.

I guess by the OP's criteria it would be Seabrook now, Edler future, with the future possibly being as early as next season, depending on how consistent he is.

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08-22-2012, 09:37 PM
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Edler. If he had a player like Keith as his partner it wouldn't even be debatable.

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Seabrook by the slightest of margins.

I feel Edler has a higher ceiling though and could easily surpass Seabrook. Not to mention Seabrook has a top 5 Dman as a partner. Something Edler has never benefited from.

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08-22-2012, 10:56 PM
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So by this logic, Seabrook>Karlsson.

Edler is significantly better offensively, and is more than capable defensively. I think he's about one step away from fixing his consistency and becoming the dominant player he can be.

I guess by the OP's criteria it would be Seabrook now, Edler future, with the future possibly being as early as next season, depending on how consistent he is.
Karlsson is a lot better offensively than Edler is. He is so dominant in that category, the fact that his defense isn't on par with Seabrook's becomes obsolete.

Nice strawman, I guess.

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08-22-2012, 11:34 PM
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Edler guy often gets underrated. In fact he's underrated by his own fanbase most of the time.

Edler's a little inconsistent at times in his own end, but the guy has all the tools to be so much more, and he's proven it, more times than not. Offensively he's great and should continue to outpoint Seabrook in the years ahead.

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Edler. If he had a player like Keith as his partner it wouldn't even be debatable.
This, Edler put up 49 points playing with a 40 year old glass Salo. He'd easily put up 50-60+ playing with Keith

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08-23-2012, 02:10 AM
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This, Edler put up 49 points playing with a 40 year old glass Salo. He'd easily put up 50-60+ playing with Keith
Heh, I guess people still haven't realized that Seabrook helps Keith a ton more these days than Keith helps Seabrook... but what else is new on HF?

Edler racks up a lot of his points on the PP. If he was on the Hawks playing ES minutes with Keith, I am almost 100% sure his point totals would drop. Chicago's PP sucks. And no, Edler wouldn't be the one to fix it. It's not a personnel problem... at least, not at the point.

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Seabrook. Edler is a fine player, more offensive while Seabrook is more defensive. In the end, one of these two plays like a drunk in the playoffs. I'll settle for the sober one.

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This, Edler put up 49 points playing with a 40 year old glass Salo. He'd easily put up 50-60+ playing with Keith
Except he was worse than that 40 y old when they played together and Salo was healthy. And Keith isnt Norris Keith anymore.

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This, Edler put up 49 points playing with a 40 year old glass Salo. He'd easily put up 50-60+ playing with Keith
Honest question have you seen single Hawks game? Seabrook has been much more valuable than Keith not to mention what Chris Hansen already said.

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