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08-28-2012, 12:43 AM
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Best and Worst moves by an Oilers GM since the team's NHL inception

A quick "what comes to mind" synopsis of the Oilers' transactions (trades, free agency, firings and hirings of non players & draft picks) by their GM since the beginning of their first NHL season.

Some points of Sather's bests:
  1. Drafting Messier, Coffey, Anderson, Fuhr, Moog, Kurri
  2. Annual Re-signing of Reijo Ruotsalainen during playoffs
  3. Kenny Linsemen signing
  4. Getting McSorely and later Brown as enforcers.

Some of Sather's worsts moves:
  1. Getting rid of Coffey and spending a lifetime to find a Dman of similar as a replacement
  2. Bonsignore
  3. Instead of firing the coach, we got rid of Jason Arnott.

Some of Kevin Lowe's Best moves:
  1. Getting Pronger and Peca in 2005
  2. Signing players like Samsonov & Spacek to help with their cup run 2006.
  3. Roloson signing.
  4. Involved in the initiation of a rebuild and hiring a non-Oiler as a GM to carry it through.

Some of Kevin Lowe's worst moves:
  1. Horcoff's salary
  2. Getting rid of Stoll and Greene.
  3. Smyth's trade

Tambellini's best moves:
  1. Having faith in MacGregor's insights of prospects during draft time.
  2. Making tough moves (moving 9-10 players in off-season) to start the rebuild.
  3. Hiring Krueger as head coach.

Some of Tambellini's worst moves:
  1. The handling of Souray's banishment. The ongoing issue festered far too long and not many teams wanted to take a chance on Souray even after a few waiver placements.

The above points are opinions but feel free to offer yours.


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I think one of Lowe's worst moves was always trying to snag the big fish. We could've kept/signed some key depth players (Glencross probably being the biggest) instead of waiting on some of the bigger free agents.

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Samsonov and Spacek were acquired mid season via trades.

Samsonov for Marty Reasoner, Yan Stastny and a 2nd round selection in 2006.

Spacek for Tony Salmelainen

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Samsonov and Spacek were acquired mid season via trades.
Thanks you are correct. Re-edit coming...

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I think one of Lowe's worst moves was always trying to snag the big fish. We could've kept/signed some key depth players (Glencross probably being the biggest) instead of waiting on some of the bigger free agents.
Yes, I agree. He played so well against the Flames ...

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Schultz for Tambo? Guess it's a bit early to tell...

edit: dont pull the "it wasn't tambo" card because we all know that anything good or bad that happens under these GMs is attributed to them. They get the reward for the good and responsibility for the bad.


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Schultz for Tambo? Guess it's a bit early to tell...
That was great presentation and fun fair by Tambellini and the Oilers' brass and ex players to entice Schultz over. I think it is without a doubt a series of great moves leading up to the signing.


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K Lowe not trading Comrie for Perry and a 1st.

Also trading down and drafting pouliot and jfj over parise.

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Letting Glencross walk and sign with the Flames for peanuts. Man was that dumb.

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K Lowe not trading Comrie for Perry and a 1st.

Also trading down and drafting pouliot and jfj over parise
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Absolutely. The demand of the return of the bonus money from Comrie after the deal to get Perry from Anaheim was almost completed was not only a shocking turn of events but thoroughly hurt the Oilers' image thereafter. Players from FA were even more reluctant to come Oilerville.

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Samsonov and Spacek were acquired mid season via trades.

Samsonov for Marty Reasoner, Yan Stastny and a 2nd round selection in 2006.

Spacek for Tony Salmelainen
Obviously there's no guarantee that we'd make the same selection but I hate that they drafted Lucic with our pick.

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I give full credit to Tambo for the 3 lotto wins... no one other than troll face could beat those odds.

I expect the Oilers to win the lottery every year he is GM... no matter where they finish in the standings... even if they have no 1st round pick it'll still happen somehow.

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I can only think of one "worst" move, and it wasn't the fault of the GM.

Trading Gretzky takes the cake.

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One of Sather's worse moves if often over looked

Adam Graves Signing with Rangers--Oilers shot for the moon, rangers caught wind of the plan and the oilers got stuck with Troy Mallette
Sather admitted later they walked in with the wrong plan--they asked for one of the top players on the rangers team

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[*]Kenny Linsemen signing
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what was so great about the rats second time around

I think trading Risto Siltenen and Brian Looney was a far better move

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for me sather's genuis move was one that makes me laugh

1985-May-31 Traded from Minnesota North Stars to Edmonton Oilers for Paul Houck
1985-Sep-12 Traded from Edmonton Oilers to Pittsburgh Penguins for Marty McSorley and Tim Hrynewich

what is not noted is that in that second deal there was future consideration

leading up to 1986 waiver wire--oilers were in trouble for protecting players and this is what sather did with Craig Muni

1986-Oct-02 Traded from Edmonton Oilers to Buffalo Sabres for cash
1986-Oct-03 Traded from Buffalo Sabres to Pittsburgh Penguins for future considerations
1986-Oct-06 Traded from Pittsburgh Penguins to Edmonton Oilers for to complete earlier deal

earlier deal being the Milloche deal.

For those old enough to remember Muni--he was not fancy but he was good like Smid and Lowe and Jason Smith. Oilers got him from the leafs in the off season and realized that if they sent him down he needed to clear waivers and he would have been picked up in the waiver draft and this was the solution he came up with and Muni Helped the oilers win three more cups

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IMO Tambo handled the Souray incident the right way, it was Souray bonehead injuries that caused more headaches than anything. Tambo had to show he was boss and by sending Souray down he sent that message. The blame should go on MacT and Lowe more than anything. They're the ones that lost control of the team and the players knew it.

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IMO Tambo handled the Souray incident the right way, it was Souray bonehead injuries that caused more headaches than anything. Tambo had to show he was boss and by sending Souray down he sent that message. The blame should go on MacT and Lowe more than anything. They're the ones that lost control of the team and the players knew it.
Oh ffs
Tamby is the boss, but the blame for the Souray debacle falls to MacT and Lowe?
Banishing Souray was a Tamby move all the way- with the backing of Katz no doubt.
Tamby got to puff up his chest like a big man and help along the tank at the same time.
Win win move for the dumbest man in hockey.

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what was so great about the rats second time around

I think trading Risto Siltenen and Brian Looney was a far better move
Siltenen was a 3 way deal. Linsemen was originally dealt to Whalers (from Flyers)then swapped over to the Oilers to get Siltenen and another Oiler.

IMO, it was memorable because we had the firepower, great D and goalie but the one move that brought them over the top was adding an agitator that can score. That added dimension was significant with the addition of Linsemen. The year prior, the Oils were swept in 4 games in the SC finals and the one thing that threw a wrench into the Islanders's plan in the rematch was facing the Oiler's perfect s### disturber, appropriately named the rat who frustrated the top lines of the NYI. The rematch in 83-84 SC finals, Linsemen agitated and frustrated the Islanders at every turn. He was that effective plus to add insult to injury to the opposing team, Linsemen could score. It was the lunch pail guys (3rd and 4th liners) that help sparked the Oilers to eventually winning their first SC. Linsemen had 14 pts, 10g along with 65 pims in 19 playoff games in 83-84.


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Oh ffs
Tamby is the boss, but the blame for the Souray debacle falls to MacT and Lowe?
Banishing Souray was a Tamby move all the way- with the backing of Katz no doubt.
Tamby got to puff up his chest like a big man and help along the tank at the same time.
Win win move for the dumbest man in hockey.
Blame falls on Lowe for signing Souray in the first place. Was chasing free agents trying to show that people still want to come to Edmonton so he overpaid for the defensive liability problem child and when he exploded he left the mess for Tambo to clean up.

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Siltenen was a 3 way deal. Linsemen was originally dealt to Whalers (from Flyers)then swapped over to the Oilers to get Siltenen and another Oiler.

IMO, it was memorable because we had the firepower, great D and goalie but the one move that brought them over the top was adding an agitator that can score. That added dimension was significant with the addition of Linsemen. The year prior, the Oils were swept in 4 games in the SC finals and the one thing that threw a wrench into the Islanders's plan in the rematch was facing the Oiler's perfect s### disturber, appropriately named the rat who frustrated the top lines of the NYI. The rematch in 83-84 SC finals, Linsemen agitated and frustrated the Islanders at every turn. He was that effective plus to add insult to injury to the opposing team, Linsemen could score. It was the lunch pail guys (3rd and 4th liners) that help sparked the Oilers to eventually winning their first SC. Linsemen had 14 pts, 10g along with 65 pims in 19 playoff games in 83-84.

Good post. Linsman was a key part in the early success of the Oilers. But he's never really mentioned much because most fans remember Gretz, Messier, Kurri, Coffey, Fuhr, Anderson...the list goes on.

The rat was one of my favorite all time Oilers, probably because he started in Philly. He was the perfect Flyer IMO.

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I give full credit to Tambo for the 3 lotto wins... no one other than troll face could beat those odds.

I expect the Oilers to win the lottery every year he is GM... no matter where they finish in the standings... even if they have no 1st round pick it'll still happen somehow.
That's good.............have to gave you credit for bringing a smile to my face so early in the morning!


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i'd say getting something for staois .....from the flames was great, i loved steady but he was severely declining at the time

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A little too early to say hiring Kreuger was one of Tambo's "best moves". I like Kreuger and think he'll do well, but let's wait and see...

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