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06-11-2014, 05:03 PM
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Red Line Report's top 10 Defencemen for the 2014 draft

There were a couple of threads asking about D-men rankings so here is Red Line Report's ranking of the top 10:




http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...emen/10341505/

Link has summaries on everyone in their top 10

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They must have seen Irving more at the start of the year. He really petered off as the year we t on.

He has some pretty good tools though.

I am much more of a Mayo fan.

Edit: Just read the summaries. I have to disagree about Irving shutting things down in the second half and helping the OK's win the Cup, he was quite bad, and really took a back seat for the playoffs.

To each their own... I guess.

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A lot of righties in the top 10 is nice to see. The nhl can use an infusion of right handed defensemen in the leauge.

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I was surprised by the Glover love. The THN draft preview questions his hockey sense and basically calls him soft.

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Glover and Pettersson too high for my taste. Both have pretty good tools, but their game hasn't really taken any shape yet. They seem to "punish" McKeown for that reason (I assume?) even though you could easily slot them all in the same "great tools, doesn't know what he's going to be yet" basket.

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Would love for mckeown to fall to the second, would be a steal at 36

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They must have seen Irving more at the start of the year. He really petered off as the year we t on.

He has some pretty good tools though.

I am much more of a Mayo fan.

Edit: Just read the summaries. I have to disagree about Irving shutting things down in the second half and helping the OK's win the Cup, he was quite bad, and really took a back seat for the playoffs.

To each their own... I guess.
I agree Irving had a much stronger start to the year than his finish. Hard to say he was quite bad when for some reason he didn't get the ice to play bad or good.

If you take Irving's fast start and slow finish with Mayo's slow start and good finish the were only 5 points apart with Mayo ahead and Irving +9 better. Both VG young prospects who play a differant style, you need both styles on a team to win.

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I am guessing Sanheim will be the 3rd defenseman picked(maybe 2nd). He seems to be this year's fast riser.

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I don't see Dougherty being that low.. he should sit behind Honka in the list and Glover/Pettersson should fall behind him.

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I was surprised by the Glover love. The THN draft preview questions his hockey sense and basically calls him soft.
Beginning, middle, and end of year viewings corroborate as well as an awful U18 regardless of stat line. Very surprising rank.

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Jacobs, Thomas and Mayo have just as much chance at being great as most of this top 10. And you could even add Martin on that list. And Siebnaler. It's really a guess this year on D.

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I was surprised by the Glover love. The THN draft preview questions his hockey sense and basically calls him soft.
I have heard from some people I know that he sky rocketing up the charts of a lot of scouts but to list him third is surprising. I was hoping the Sabres might grab him around pick #39.

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Red Line is usually different then the norm which is great to read.

DeAngelo will go very high, glad they still see that.

Glover kind of took a dump at the u18, but the skillset and size is there. I am not sure I would take him ahead of Dougherty, but you have to project these kids and Glover has always looked like a player who will be better as he gets older.

Solid draft for US dmen if it goes anything like this as right behind these guys Jacobs, Haydon, Collins, and Siebnaler are all knocking.

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RLR LOVES Aaron Irving. They've been championing him all year. I'm surprised to see DeAngelo ahead of McKeown in some ways (Discipline, defence), but in others it makes a lot of sense (DeAngelo is a pure offensive d-man, McKeown hasn't really found his niche).

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Their ranking of Irving is funny and their description of his season is even funnier.

I respect RLR for the work they do and the scouts they have in their rotation, but I definitely disagree with some of their stuff. I remember hearing they had Irving as a 1st round player back in about February. To still have him in this high in their rankings is questionable given just how bad he was down the stretch, in the playoffs and in the Mem Cup.

Sample size, sample size blah blah blah, yeah I know, but he REALLY struggled and much of his struggles seemed to be hockey sense related.

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If Milano isn't there SJ will pick up McKeown at 21st.

Irving is way too high, as well as Pettersson.

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Funny how so many have opinions on guys like Pettersson. Doubt many have even seen him play.

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Where did Redline have Subban rated in his draft year?

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Ekblad
Fleury
McKeown
Honka
DeAngelo
Dougherty
Glover
Vanier
Martin
Sanheim

I don't get peoples dislike for McKeown. Same happened with Pulock last year and he went higher than most expected and I think McKeown will do the same.

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I agree Irving had a much stronger start to the year than his finish. Hard to say he was quite bad when for some reason he didn't get the ice to play bad or good.

If you take Irving's fast start and slow finish with Mayo's slow start and good finish the were only 5 points apart with Mayo ahead and Irving +9 better. Both VG young prospects who play a differant style, you need both styles on a team to win.
Irving was very ill during the playoffs I believe.

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There were a couple of threads asking about D-men rankings so here is Red Line Report's ranking of the top 10:




http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...emen/10341505/

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Not a fan of McKeown, he's just didn't play with any smarts. Saw him a lot this year and it wasn't pretty on many occasions. One of my biggest fallers this year along with Middleton.

We have Glover in the 3rd round, I know some scouts who like him more than I do.
I'm not an overly big fan of Irving, he really struggled whenever I saw him. Never saw why he got so much love.

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We have Glover in the 3rd round, I know some scouts who like him more than I do.
A bit off-topic, but I noticed that you also had Miro Keskitalo in the 3rd round, not far behind Glover. To me that seems surprising, without better knowledge I'd say that there's a good chance that he goes undrafted. Do you happen to know what scouts think of Keskitalo and where do you see him going?

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Interest and belief in Pettersson and Sanheim is not unfounded. Scouts are looking at those boys and seeing what they'll be in 5 years, not just what they are now. They each look like they have great upside.

Honka is simply an outstanding little hockey player. Lots of tools, great confidence in his abilities.

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A bit off-topic, but I noticed that you also had Miro Keskitalo in the 3rd round, not far behind Glover. To me that seems surprising, without better knowledge I'd say that there's a good chance that he goes undrafted. Do you happen to know what scouts think of Keskitalo and where do you see him going?
Just a couple NHL guys but they both liked him, heart and soul kid, blocked shots etc.. Hard for me to predict where he goes off the board because I don't know as many Euro NHL scouts as NA based guys. NA based guys could love him but it won't necessarily translate to a selection because their opinions don't carry as much weight as the teams Euro scouts.

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Interest and belief in Pettersson and Sanheim is not unfounded. Scouts are looking at those boys and seeing what they'll be in 5 years, not just what they are now. They each look like they have great upside.
I mentioned them in the same breath both on radio yesterday and in our Black Book.

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imo

1. Ekblad
2. Fleury
3. Sanheim
4. Honka
5. DeAngelo (he's gonna drop because of his on/off ice issues)
6. Petterson
7. Dougherty
8. McKeown
9. Jacobs
10. Masin

Thomas has top 10 potential too, he'll probably go in the 2nd
it really is a terrible year for defenseman

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