Ryder had a great game, making many great plays (both passes and shots) and making few mistakes. He accumulated two points, both assists, but was onew of the most active and noteworthy players on the ice.
Don't forget he was playing with Koivu!!
Put Perezhogin or Higgins with Koivu and you will have an as notable player without the mistakes!
Ryder didn't have "A" good game, Ryder was fluctuating between good and amazing for all the games (intra-team and the two pre-season games). I know it, I saw the game last night. You live in denial.
I don't know if you're quoting someone at the begining of your post but "making few mistakes" actually means he didn't do many mistakes so what should he have done to have an OK game? Make none?
The more you say Ryder isn't anything special when EVERYBODY that saw him play says otherwise, the less credibility you will have, especially considering all you do is report tidbits of info (the ones you select) from other posters.
Again, you live in denial and are stuburn like no other. Ryder could score 4 goals, be +4 and hammer everybody along the boards all night long and you would still find something to say to bring him down like "it's the least he could do, he played with Koivu".
EDIT: BTW Ryder played with Koivu for only one period as Saku got injured early in the second. Following your logic that nobody playing with Perreault can be lethal because he's such a bad player, it would only seem fair to then recognize that if Ryder shined even when playing with him subsequently, he must have been doing something right don't you think?
Ryder didn't have "A" good game, Ryder was fluctuating between good and amazing for all the games (intra-team and the two pre-season games). I know it, I saw the game last night. You live in denial.
I don't know if you're quoting someone at the begining of your post but "making few mistakes" actually means he didn't do many mistakes so what should he have done to have an OK game? Make none?
The more you say Ryder isn't anything special when EVERYBODY that saw him play says otherwise, the less credibility you will have, especially considering all you do is report tidbits of info (the ones you select) from other posters.
Again, you live in denial and are stuburn like no other. Ryder could score 4 goals, be +4 and hammer everybody along the boards all night long and you would still find something to say to bring him down like "it's the least he could do, he played with Koivu".
I'm as big a fan of Ryder's as anyone's, and have been since his first season in Hull but, this is preseason. I'm hoping he'll earn himself a spot come October, but I'm hesitant to jump on the Ryder-bandwagon here... Preseason hockey is AHL-calibre hockey. Same goes for intra-squad games. It's not the talent level so much as the loose systems, and numerous breakdowns that can occur... and just the individual talent isn't up to par at this stage. As such, Ryder's play is not indicative of whether he's NHL calibre or not.
Regardless, he has progressed, he has a good work ethic, we'll see in a few weeks if he's up for the NHL yet.
I'm as big a fan of Ryder's as anyone's, and have been since his first season in Hull but, this is preseason. I'm hoping he'll earn himself a spot come October, but I'm hesitant to jump on the Ryder-bandwagon here... Preseason hockey is AHL-calibre hockey. Same goes for intra-squad games. It's not the talent level so much as the loose systems, and numerous breakdowns that can occur... and just the individual talent isn't up to par at this stage. As such, Ryder's play is not indicative of whether he's NHL calibre or not.
Regardless, he has progressed, he has a good work ethic, we'll see in a few weeks if he's up for the NHL yet.
Honestly, from what I saw of him last night, I don't think we can even factor scoring to determine if he's valuable or not for us. He plays with grit and passion and crashes and bangs all night long. It's not hard to see he'd be at least a perfect 4th line fit... At the very least.
Alot of you Jerkoffs really piss me of...Why would you ***** on a guy like Dwyer...The guy protects his teammates and trys to stir things up...I know he probally loses more fights then he wins...but he gives 100%...and then you jokers laugh because he scores a goal...whats up with that?...Are you really Hab Fans...or should I say Hockey Fans...If your looking for humor...I suggest you go to yuk yuks or rent a Adam Sandler movie...
Actually, Dwyer scoring is funnier than a Sandler movie... I think you're over reacting here. No one questions his commitment and effort to his teammates, but like MK said he just doesn't score. I'm sure many of his teammates are ripping into him as well.
Have another tequila cooler and don't worry about it... Cheers!
I went to the game... First time I actually went to a pre-season game...
I'll try to keep it short... it's late!
FORWARDS
Bulis (B+) Great moves, swift transitions, superb 2-way play. This guy could actually become a 55 pts player this year. The only problem tonight was that he couldn't finish off his plays (great opportunities, but no goals).
Dackell (C) No sense of grit or intensity whatsoever. Played ok defensively. I'm tired of seeing him play. We should get rid of him.
Dwyer (B+) Lots of intensity, skating is not that bad. Goal is a bonus. Actually seemed ok hockey-sense-wise. A decent enforcer for the Habs.
Higgins (B-) Honestly, watching him play reminds me of a 2nd-tier 3rd-line checker. Get the idea? The good news is that he's young and he'll only be better with time... A good Rolston-like skater, great backchecker, but needs to bulk up a bit before getting a full-time NHL job. Probably wasn't his best game anyway...
Hossa (B-) He seemed uninterested, but I think it's much more his skating style than his actual involvement. He worked hard at times to dig up pucks and made great plays defensively. However, he needs to show more offensive power if he wants a job in Montreal. The talent is there, that's for sure.
Juneau (B) I really don't like this guy and I'm getting frustrated to see him take the job of youngsters like Higgins, but he's actually decent at what he's doing.
Koivu (A) The best player on the ice before getting injured. Not much to say other than the fact that his wingers (Sundstrom and Ryder) didn't seem to play well with him (bad chemistry).
Perezhogin (B) Totally uninvolved in the first period. Then, I actually saw why this guy was drafted in the first round. I'm really impressed by his willingness to go dig pucks in the corner and stay in front of the net. He has some nice moves and more than decent speed. Had a great chance to score. However, he REALLY NEEDS TO BULK UP. Looks like Ribeiro on the ice, which is really not good. By comparison, his playing STYLE reminds me of Martin Havlat (as compared to Bure, Mogilny, Hossa, Gaborik, etc).
Perrault (A-) Seemed dominant in this AHL-level game. As usual, an offensive "force" (for the Habs at least), but was involved in defensive plays. Got some shots, made good passes.
Ryder (A-) All-around great game for Ryder. Decent 3rd-liner in the making, maybe even better. I noticed that he had some trouble with pass reception, but he compensated with gritty plays and a "wow" pass for a goal.
Ward (C+) Bad game for Jason. Not really involved, seemed slow.
DEFENCE
Beauchemin (C-) I disagree with other posters. He played an awful game, made a couple of inacceptable mistakes. Was less physical as the game went on (probably due to loss of confidence). Dumped the puck nervously when he had it.
Brisebois (B-) Went unnoticed, which is probably a good sign. I was surprised by his physical play...
Hainsey (A-) Made a couple of mistakes defensively, but he's a force on offense. Great vision, patient with puck... He needs to keep up with this.
Komisarek (C+) Bad game. Seemed confused. Not noticeably physical enough.
Rivet (B+) Played physical, unlike the second-half of 2002-2003. He almost looked like a 3M defencemen. Decent offense, solid defense.
Souray (A) A rock on defense. He was actually intimidating. Players tried to go on the other side instead of outskating him along the boards. Even got some hard shots from the point.
I heard Theo had the flu, but told CJ to put him in the lineup. I guess that is good, ready to play when they tell him too. Too many things went wrong tonight, hard to get a real grip of the game. Both goalies not near 100%, Koivu going down. That would kill me if I was on the bench, same knee that kept him out before. Lets just hope that he realized it was pre-season and realized no need to get hurt here.
Ryder had a great game, making many great plays (both passes and shots) and making few mistakes. He accumulated two points, both assists, but was onew of the most active and noteworthy players on the ice.
Don't forget he was playing with Koivu!!
Put Perezhogin or Higgins with Koivu and you will have an as notable player without the mistakes!
You know you don't help yourself with that kind of posting...It doesn't add to your credibilty to say the least.
I watched tonight's game, and here are my thoughts...
Chris Higgins: He plays hard, you have to give him credit. He had his chances, but was particularly outstanding in defensive coverage tonight. Lots of penalty kill ice time for Chris, and I consider he did pretty well. As for his offensive contribution, it's steady every game, he's very consistent.
Not doubting you about Higgins but nhl.com has Higgins with no PK time last night. His line:
88 C HIGGINS, CHRISTOPHER E (+/-) 12:43 (TOI) 18 (Shifts) 1:15 (PP) 0:00 (PK) 11:28(ES) 5 (FOW) 7 (FOL) 41 (FO%) 1 (Pen) 2 (PIM)
What's funny about that? He just happens to be one of our top scorers in the recent years, like it or not.
Anybody saying good things about Brisebois/Perreault or bad things about our prospects (aside from Ryder) will get this kind of comment from Plekanec. A very... black and white vision of things. Or maybe he's just a fruitcake...
