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08-02-2014, 12:47 PM
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Jets in 15-16

With the signing of TJ Galiardi, it probably means the jets are done with off-season moves. I guess we have three lines now that can be effective. However, with lousy goaltending and that bad left side on d, a risk of the old sphmore jinx, Kane's distraction as to wether he wants to be here and how Buff tolerates playing forward leaves me cynical. Plus our division is brutal.

I have low expectations and if anything hope for a bit of a tank so we can get a higher 2015 pick. That all said, I feel the polar opposite about 15-16, when a large group of prospects join the team and the kane and Toews contracts kick in, hopefully ensuring the hawks turn into the Pens. I also doubt both Ales Hemsky and Jason Spezza can both stay healthy for that long as well. If the Blue still have Brian Elliot as their starter there will be issues there too. Colorado is super scary, but someone is going to be regardless.

So what do the Jets look like in 15-16? I'll take a stab at it:

Ladd Little Wheeler
Kane Scheifle Buff
Lowry Burmistrov Lipon
Ehlers Petan Kosmachuk
Perrault

Enstrom Bogosian
Morrisey Trouba
Clitsome Postma

Hutchinson
Pavelec

Spares: Thorburn, Peluso, Galiardi....Kitchon, Ellerby, Stuart

This is providing Clitsome's health is good, I do think Burmi will give us another shot and Petan may start on the bottom 6 but if he can have a big year I could then see him between two of our really big forwards. (A la Mommesso-Ronning-Linden in the 90's for Van).

It's certainly a very deep team. So much seems to pivot on the performance of the young talent. I do think its something to get excited about. the goaltending is still bad tho.

Overall it looks like this is Chevy's plan and I can either get used to it or face extended frustration because it doesn't look like any extra 1st rounders are coming and Kane is not getting dealt for Olli Maata. I think this is what we're getting and while not optimal, its not awful by any stretch either.

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08-02-2014, 12:50 PM
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If Pavelec has another brutal year they may use a normal course buyout on him.

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As for your lineup, I really doubt that Lowry will be ahead of Ehlers in two years time, and I really doubt that Ehlers will be on our fourth line. I think Buff will be gone, I think Kane will be gone, I think Ladd might be gone. Which leaves us with these mainstays:

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08-02-2014, 01:03 PM
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SO there is still another shot to buy him out? I thought those opportunities were gone...and can hellybuyck play in the NHL at 22? We need a bridge goalie in the worst way. Can you imagine if Ehlers is the rookie of the year, we have a really strong, deep team and we go into the playoffs with Pavelec as the starting goalie?...ugh..one of the issues with this lineup I posted is it puts so much pressure on Hutchinson..

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SO there is still another shot to buy him out? I thought those opportunities were gone...and can hellybuyck play in the NHL at 22? We need a bridge goalie in the worst way. Can you imagine if Ehlers is the rookie of the year, we have a really strong, deep team and we go into the playoffs with Pavelec as the starting goalie?...ugh..one of the issues with this lineup I posted is it puts so much pressure on Hutchinson..
You can always buy out a player, we just missed the chance to do it without having to deal with his caphit.

Hellebuyck is to me what Glover is to Holden, Copp is to jetkarma, and a piece of papers with numbers on it is to Garret. I'm incredibly high on him.

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08-02-2014, 01:08 PM
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Regular buyouts happen every summer. For a non cap team like the Jets they're just as viable as compliance buyouts.

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08-02-2014, 01:15 PM
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thanks everyone for clarity on buyouts.

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I didn't see McDavid in the lineup.

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For me, it is

Ladd
Little
Wheeler
Kane
Scheifele
Buff
Perreault
Frolik
(Burmistrov?)
Ehlers
Lowry
Lipon
Kosmachuk

Trouba
Enstrom
Bogosian
Morrissey
Clitsome
Stuart
Kitchon

Hutchinson
Pavelec/Hellebuyck

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You're not going to see 5-6 rookies coming in at once. It'll be two, maybe three tops + call ups.
We really need someone to step up and graduate this season to avoid a backlog (and I'm not referring to O'dell or Klingberg).


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I think the OP is off , of course this is based on presumptions but I believe this is a balanced projection.

It also is with us resigning Frolik ( fingers crossed ) .

One option is :

Ladd Little Ehlers / Frolik

Kane Scheifele Wheeler

Buff Perreault Frolik / Ehlers / Burmistrov

Lowry Copp Kosmachuk

I think the fourth line would be terrific and a good way for those players to get their feet wet at the NHL level , if one or more aren't ready we have options .

TJ Slater Lipon

We also have O'Dell , Klingberg , Tangradi and Peluso and Thorburn as deep depth possibilities. Key to me is Frolik , cripes I want him resigned. Frolik can slot in anywhere and if you want to have Ehlers on the third , an easy switch.With this depth we then have options to maybe trade a key piece ( not saying we need to ) Kane , Buff and not have all kinds of holes to fill .

Then we have Burmistrov , who if we do bring back can easily slide into a third line role , making our depth even deeper and maybe allowing for a major trade or have Buff back on D ( yeah ! ) .

This to me is realistic and also positive , as I said , retaining Frolik is so integral imo .

I like and think I could quite like the forward situation .

Enstrom Trouba

Morrissey Bogosian

Clitsome Buff / Postma

Stuart Pardy/Ellerby


Hutchinson Helle and ?

Honestly I quite like the way that shapes up and the options it presents , A couple of tweaks from a strengthened position and we significantly are a much much better team.


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You're not going to see 5-6 rookies coming in at once. It'll be two, maybe three tops + call ups.
We really need someone to step up and graduate this season to avoid a backlog (and I'm not referring to O'dell or Klingberg).
Some of those may get enough seasoning this year that they really wouldn't be true rookies next year . But we have options Hopefully ... key piece is Froilik , want him back big time and willing to go 5 per for 6 plus years personally. Type of player that will play well , well into his thirties imo .

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08-02-2014, 06:49 PM
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I forgot entirely about O'Dell, one less rookie then..

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I'm not sure how it is all going to shake out as there is alot of moving pieces that can occur for 15-16. I think you can pencil in Ehlers and Morrissey for sure tho. Also might be able to get at least 1 player from St.Johns, I'm thinking it is Lipon. Personally I think Frolik and Burmi gets traded for something. I think it may lead to a bigger trade including Kane or Buff.

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It's a very deep team no doubt. As for the high rookie count, I don't think they would all be in the lineup at the same time. Also, no one is getting shoved in a role that could swamp them. They would act as depth pieces to start. It's a good situation for a young player.

Maybe Chevy 's plan is better than we think. Still would like a core piece traded tho.

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The bottom six is just silly, having them all be rookies/sophomores would put us at a huge disadvantage.
Petan and ehlers could take a while longer to garner strength. At this point i would rather have perreault than burmi for a veteran presence. Probably the most realistic line up.


Kane-little-wheeler
Ladd-schief-ehlers (mabye)/ kosmachuk
Lowry-perreualt-frolik
Tangradi-o'dell-klinberg/blomqvist
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Enstrom-bogo
Clitsom-trouba
Morrisey-stuart
Postma

Hutchison
Hellebyuck


I believe kane will reach star status and be awarded more minutes. Im unsure about ehlers and how he'll do without drouin but if he still dominates and bulks up I'm all for him in the line up. The bottom six is still pretty young but there not much we can do about it, id also like to see buff moved for a steady top 4 lhd and a pick. Morrisey will probably be sheltered for a couple of years much like gardiner and krug. By now management WILL have to do something with pavs, i don't see many people putting up with this after next season. We COULD be a playoff team but it'd really depend on the rookies coming in.

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I think I will fine tune my 15-16 lineup a bit..

Kane-Scheifle-Wheeler
Ladd-Little-Frolik
Lowry-Perrault-Buff
Galiardi-Burmistrov-O'Dell

Enstrom-Bogosian
Clitsome-Trouba
Morrisey-Postma

Hutchinson
Pavelec


Two rookies but in sheltered roles.....still a pretty good team...but the goaltending....Hutch needs to be really big...tough role to play.

I will be optimistic about Frolik re-signing as well.

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Do you guys really think burmi will be back? And on the jets?

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Seems like a reach to me.

I say that ignoring thos that have Ehlers in our line up this year. Yikes


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All Offensive Lines 2015-2016

Kane Schiefele Wheeler
Ladd Little Kosmochuk
Ehlers McDavid Petan
Lowry Perrault Lipon

Thorburn

Enstrom Trouba
Morrissey Bogosian
Stuart. Postman

Hanifin Melchiori


Hutchinson
Hellybuck

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Byfuglien , Frolik and Pavelec got flip for some draft picks during the 2014-2015 Trade deadline for 1 st rounder that somehow found the 1st overall pick.

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Ehlers - McDavid - Petan?

300+ pts between them last year. That would be an interesting line - dare to dream!

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The bottom six is just silly, having them all be rookies/sophomores would put us at a huge disadvantage.
Petan and ehlers could take a while longer to garner strength. At this point i would rather have perreault than burmi for a veteran presence. Probably the most realistic line up.


Kane-little-wheeler
Ladd-schief-ehlers (mabye)/ kosmachuk
Lowry-perreualt-frolik
Tangradi-o'dell-klinberg/blomqvist
Thornburn

Enstrom-bogo
Clitsom-trouba
Morrisey-stuart
Postma

Hutchison
Hellebyuck


I believe kane will reach star status and be awarded more minutes. Im unsure about ehlers and how he'll do without drouin but if he still dominates and bulks up I'm all for him in the line up. The bottom six is still pretty young but there not much we can do about it, id also like to see buff moved for a steady top 4 lhd and a pick. Morrisey will probably be sheltered for a couple of years much like gardiner and krug. By now management WILL have to do something with pavs, i don't see many people putting up with this after next season. We COULD be a playoff team but it'd really depend on the rookies coming in.
Our bottom six being a disadvantage for us? That's new...

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Ehlers - McDavid - Petan?

300+ pts between them last year. That would be an interesting line - dare to dream!
Take out McDavid add Kosmachuk and it'sstill over 300 points.

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