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01-09-2013, 10:34 AM
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I think it's a shame how much this board's opinion of Omark has been affected by the fanboys. Even if he wasn't really good he was at least interesting which is more than this team has been during much of the last three years.

Actually I think he played a role in Paajarvi and Hartikainen having good first years and missing him played into their "sophomore slumps".

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01-09-2013, 10:46 AM
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We'd be lucky to get a 6th.
maybe, but i don't think he has that little value...maybe in Detroit he can finally realize his enormous potential and we could get at least a 4th rounder?

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maybe, but i don't think he has that little value...maybe in Detroit he can finally realize his enormous potential and we could get at least a 4th rounder?
Everyone thinking omarks value is under a 2 pick has no thrust in our org. Do people really thinks that we send qualifying offers (and even extend that offer) for a 4-5 pick.

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Everyone thinking omarks value is under a 2 pick has no thrust in our org. Do people really thinks that we send qualifying offers (and even extend that offer) for a 4-5 pick.
Why not?

I think it was clear that Omark would reject the QO to play somewhere in Europe.

It's not costing the Oilers anything to retain his rights.

No point in just cutting him loose for nothing even if the potential return isn't huge.

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Why not?

I think it was clear that Omark would reject the QO to play somewhere in Europe.

It's not costing the Oilers anything to retain his rights.

No point in just cutting him loose for nothing even if the potential return isn't huge.
Omark had went to the camp as a last option if the lockout hasnt occured. What you suggest is that oilers doesnt see any value in him and just giving a bad time, thats not looking good for other prospects from europe when to sign with oilers.

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01-10-2013, 01:53 PM
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Omark had went to the camp as a last option if the lockout hasnt occured. What you suggest is that oilers doesnt see any value in him and just giving a bad time, thats not looking good for other prospects from europe when to sign with oilers.
If they didn't see any value in him, why would they give him a qualifying offer?

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If they didn't see any value in him, why would they give him a qualifying offer?
Your suggestion! Omark waited to the last minute to get a trade inside nhl ,his intention wasnt to play in europe! if they accepted a 3-4 pick the deal had been done already. If they let reddox walks for free, so either was the asking price to high or they wanted to give a hard time for political reasons.

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Your suggestion! Omark waited to the last minute to get a trade inside nhl ,his intention wasnt to play in europe! if they accepted a 3-4 pick the deal had been done already. If they let reddox walks for free, so either was the asking price to high or they wanted to give a hard time for political reasons.
Maybe there just weren't any offers.

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Everyone thinking omarks value is under a 2 pick has no thrust in our org. Do people really thinks that we send qualifying offers (and even extend that offer) for a 4-5 pick.
Yes. Especially since the QO is still quite cheap, and retains the rights to the player.

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Yes. Especially since the QO is still quite cheap, and retains the rights to the player.
Even i who sees value in him was surprised with the QO! But in here , no one seems surprised. I think 99.9% of hockey media/blogs didnt expected a QO!

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I was not surprised by the QO. Unless you think an asset is definitively worthless and has no potential to improve, it makes little sense to just let them go for nothing.

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with the intention to improve, raise his value? they had no plans for him in the org,, and they cant or will not trade him away. Let the guy try his chances elsewhere in the nhl. He cant even be placed in the ahl without go true waivers(so we doesnt get anything if he signs). A fourth rounder and has not cost us a bit, maybee some losing faces if he succed in another team.

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01-14-2013, 09:44 AM
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with the intention to improve, raise his value? they had no plans for him in the org,, and they cant or will not trade him away. Let the guy try his chances elsewhere in the nhl. He cant even be placed in the ahl without go true waivers(so we doesnt get anything if he signs). A fourth rounder and has not cost us a bit, maybee some losing faces if he succed in another team.
ST made it clear after the draft that Omark was on the table and no one phoned him about Omark.

He was qualified because it really cost nothing and there was a chance that come the start of the season when teams realize they are missing some offense that maybe, just maybe someone will toss a pick our way for Omark.

In today's NHL a lot of teams are giving what they have a shot before going out and taking a chance on a guy like Omark.

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ST made it clear after the draft that Omark was on the table and no one phoned him about Omark.

He was qualified because it really cost nothing and there was a chance that come the start of the season when teams realize they are missing some offense that maybe, just maybe someone will toss a pick our way for Omark.

In today's NHL a lot of teams are giving what they have a shot before going out and taking a chance on a guy like Omark.
It cost oilers a spot inside their 50 players! There was offers said his agent kevin epp, but oilers wanted a draftpick and the offers was about player against player. And in the late summer there were negatations from nhl teams about omark if you believe in omark and his swedish agent. http://www.expressen.se/sport/hockey...-har-fatt-bud/

I think that oilers wasnt happy with the offers compared to the damage he could do in a another nhl team. Zetterberg said that there arent many players with omarks hockey iq in the nhl and that hes sure that omark can have a long nhl career, its just to find a team and a coach who believes in him.

Omark had 1 ass in zugs away lost 3-2 in ot, he was named best player in ev zug!

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01-15-2013, 08:28 AM
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It cost oilers a spot inside their 50 players! There was offers said his agent kevin epp, but oilers wanted a draftpick and the offers was about player against player. And in the late summer there were negatations from nhl teams about omark if you believe in omark and his swedish agent. http://www.expressen.se/sport/hockey...-har-fatt-bud/

I think that oilers wasnt happy with the offers compared to the damage he could do in a another nhl team. Zetterberg said that there arent many players with omarks hockey iq in the nhl and that hes sure that omark can have a long nhl career, its just to find a team and a coach who believes in him.

Omark had 1 ass in zugs away lost 3-2 in ot, he was named best player in ev zug!
I would not be mad at Tambo if he refused to take back a player in any potential deal with Omark.

The Oilers need the open roster spot more than they need some random warm body coming back from where-ever.

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It cost oilers a spot inside their 50 players! There was offers said his agent kevin epp, but oilers wanted a draftpick and the offers was about player against player. And in the late summer there were negatations from nhl teams about omark if you believe in omark and his swedish agent. http://www.expressen.se/sport/hockey...-har-fatt-bud/

I think that oilers wasnt happy with the offers compared to the damage he could do in a another nhl team. Zetterberg said that there arent many players with omarks hockey iq in the nhl and that hes sure that omark can have a long nhl career, its just to find a team and a coach who believes in him.

Omark had 1 ass in zugs away lost 3-2 in ot, he was named best player in ev zug!
This is getting silly. The org is certainly not afraid of the "damage" he could do. He couldn't contribute on the worst team in the league, precisely BECAUSE of his low hockey IQ.

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This is getting silly. The org is certainly not afraid of the "damage" he could do. He couldn't contribute on the worst team in the league, precisely BECAUSE of his low hockey IQ.
Have you dont an IQ test on him? Lets see the results ..
Low IQ does not get you into NHL .. Omark is skilled enough to be a part of this league and be an all star at AHL\Euro level. We have Eberle, Hemsky, Yakupov etc therfore have no room for him. If he was 4 inches taller he would be a regular NHLer.

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Have you dont an IQ test on him? Lets see the results ..
Low IQ does not get you into NHL .. Omark is skilled enough to be a part of this league and be an all star at AHL\Euro level. We have Eberle, Hemsky, Yakupov etc therfore have no room for him. If he was 4 inches taller he would be a regular NHLer.
Yakupov will play LW. Hemsky was on his way out if Omark had shown ANYTHING.

He's just not good enough to play here. It's not height, opportunity, linemates, politics, coaching, or grudges.

Schremp, over and over and over. Smarten up, people. Opposing fanbases must look at this Omark crap and think we'd be overachieving to be able to count to potato.

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Have you dont an IQ test on him? Lets see the results ..
Low IQ does not get you into NHL .. Omark is skilled enough to be a part of this league and be an all star at AHL\Euro level. We have Eberle, Hemsky, Yakupov etc therfore have no room for him. If he was 4 inches taller he would be a regular NHLer.
Your forgetting the Oilers have Tobias Rieder in the system.

The Oilers are loaded with highly skilled Smurfs and Omark just compounds the problem. What it sounds like there has been some interest in Omark, specifically the Wings. The problem with Wings is that they are also loaded with highly skilled Smurfs, and I'm betting they want the Oilers to take one of their smaller prospect in return.

I would trade Omark to Detroit for Marek Tvrdon. It's a risk for the Oilers because of Tvrdon's blood clot problems, but I think it's worth it.

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Yakupov will play LW. Hemsky was on his way out if Omark had shown ANYTHING.

He's just not good enough to play here. It's not height, opportunity, linemates, politics, coaching, or grudges.

Schremp, over and over and over. Smarten up, people. Opposing fanbases must look at this Omark crap and think we'd be overachieving to be able to count to potato.
Schremp couldn't keep up with Strudwick in an all out race ... your comparing apples and oranges. Omark could have an NHL career on the right team. Schremp was at best an AHL star. Schremp playing in the KHL had 1 goal and 6 points in 21 games this year, no where near what Omark would do.

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Schremp couldn't keep up with Strudwick in an all out race ... your comparing apples and oranges. Omark could have an NHL career on the right team. Schremp was at best an AHL star. Schremp playing in the KHL had 1 goal and 6 points in 21 games this year, no where near what Omark would do.
No, I'm pointing out that neither were viable NHLers, but segments of this fanbase, for some reason, can't remove their heart-shaped glasses and judge the player on his own merits.

You, yourself, are cherrypicking Schremp's bad stats in the KHL over his very Omark-like stats in Austria, which is far more similar to the Swiss league that Omark is in.

You're also justifying your argument with a lot of could and should.

Both Schremp and Omark saw decent NHL time filling a roster spot on a loser of a squad.

We have real prospects now. Why carry the torch for another dud?

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Who's carrying a torch? I doubt you can find even a single poster on this thread who thinks Omark deserves a spot on the Oilers this year. Even folks who believe in him know that he's done with this organization. Most of us are just keeping an eye on him with the hopes he has success this year and maybe we can get something for his rights. Not sure what's so hard to understand about that or why it's like waving a red flag in front of a certain segment of posters who can't help responding with "huff hufff Schremp snort snort shrimp grunt entitled" comments.

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Who's carrying a torch? I doubt you can find even a single poster on this thread who thinks Omark deserves a spot on the Oilers this year...
I'll stop you right there.

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No, I'm pointing out that neither were viable NHLers, but segments of this fanbase, for some reason, can't remove their heart-shaped glasses and judge the player on his own merits.

You, yourself, are cherrypicking Schremp's bad stats in the KHL over his very Omark-like stats in Austria, which is far more similar to the Swiss league that Omark is in.

You're also justifying your argument with a lot of could and should.

Both Schremp and Omark saw decent NHL time filling a roster spot on a loser of a squad.

We have real prospects now. Why carry the torch for another dud?
There is no cherrypicking, other than the NHL, the KHL is the only league they have both played in and can hence be compared.

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