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08-29-2012, 04:36 PM
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They were on par last year?

Well Neuvy was in an obvious sophomore slump(documented reasons I won't go into) and behind an awful regular season defense. That's the version of Neuvirth we get with Crawford??
Easy pass.
Same Argument could be made for Crawford

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08-29-2012, 06:27 PM
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Erskine >>> Montador

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Neuvirth, Johansson, Shultz

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Crawford, Sharp,

Anyone?

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08-29-2012, 08:40 PM
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Neuvirth, Johansson, Shultz

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Crawford, Sharp,

Anyone?
No way Hawks do it.

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08-29-2012, 08:57 PM
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Why do the Hawks want Neuvirth? Crawford's career numbers are a bit better and he has more experience. I don't think Chicago is looking for a goalie that's a little younger, they want a goalie that's better.

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08-29-2012, 08:59 PM
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He was hurt and then Holtby ran with the job by posting a 1.95GAA and .935sv% in the playoffs. There aren't many goalies who are going to take back a starting job while the other guy is posting those numbers.
Neuvirth was brutal all year.

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08-29-2012, 09:07 PM
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Neuvirth, Johansson, Shultz

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Crawford, Sharp,

Anyone?
Hawks hang up phone pretty easily

Sharp is going nowhere

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08-30-2012, 12:24 AM
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Neuvirth was brutal all year.
Has nothing to do with him finishing the year behind Holtby. Neuvirth had a rocky season, but he remained ahead of Holtby on the depth chart until he went down with injuries at the end of the regular season.

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Neuvirth, Johansson, Shultz

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Crawford, Sharp,

Anyone?
Steal for Washington.

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08-30-2012, 01:16 AM
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I wouldn't trade Stalberg for Him alone.

Maybe bickell an even then I'm not sure he is better than Craw

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So the Caps get older and worse in net, get two spare parts, and add over $5M in cap hits?

Stalberg is somewhat interesting, but not at the expense of Neuvirth and certainly not while also taking Montador's contract. The Caps are already loaded with top 9 tweeners and complimentary forwards, adding Stalberg doesn't really fill any holes. Montador is of even less use, when we already have guys like Erskine and Hillen in the press box.
I'd take Stahlberg straight up for Neuvirth. You're vastly overrating Neuvirth. He's had one league-average year, and one terrible year--quite similar to Crawford, actually.

I do agree about taking on all that money though.

Neuvirth + Schultz

for

Stahlberg + Crawford + Montador

Caps get better and only take on ~ $2.5M in salary

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If I were Chicago I would wait to see how Crawford responds before trading him. Lest we forget, he is only one season removed from a 2.30 GAA/9.17 SV% performance.

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I'd take Stahlberg straight up for Neuvirth. You're vastly overrating Neuvirth. He's had one league-average year, and one terrible year--quite similar to Crawford, actually.
I see more untapped upside in Neuvirth than I see in Crawford. More potential for improvement. Goaltenders are hardly a finished product at age 24. And I think many would agree with me.

No real reason to move Neuvy for Crawford, given their age and contracts, if it doesn't fill a hole on the roster. Stalberg is not filling a hole. We have plenty of complimentary pieces like him already on the roster. He's no more of a sure-fire top six option than Laich, Brouwer, or Johansson.

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If the cap goes to 58-60 million, Stalberg and Bickell become very valuable, so I'd hold off.

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I think they'd rather wait and see how Holtby does before trading their only insurance.
Bingo.

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I see more untapped upside in Neuvirth than I see in Crawford. More potential for improvement. Goaltenders are hardly a finished product at age 24. And I think many would agree with me.

No real reason to move Neuvy for Crawford, given their age and contracts, if it doesn't fill a hole on the roster. Stalberg is not filling a hole. We have plenty of complimentary pieces like him already on the roster. He's no more of a sure-fire top six option than Laich, Brouwer, or Johansson.
I see Neuvirth having a Peter Budaj type career.

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No trade will happen, because Holtby isn't the #1, neither is Neuvirth, they will both fight for the starting spot.

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We are not trading a top 4 dman for a goalie who isn't much better if at all, than Crawford.

Neuvirth >\= Crawford
Hjalmarsson >>>>>>>>>>Erskine
2nd is not enough for a very slight increase in goaltending.,

If it were Emery & Hammer, I would do it, but you can keep Erskine.
Is that a little sideways man between the two goalies?

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considering the cost for Varlamov, I would say that McPhee at least listens to an offer for CHI 1st round pick

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considering the cost for Varlamov, I would say that McPhee at least listens to an offer for CHI 1st round pick
Michael Neuvirth is not Varlamov. Even if Varlamov had injury concerns.

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Michael Neuvirth is not Varlamov. Even if Varlamov had injury concerns.
You're right. He beat Varlamov for the starting job last season.

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You're right. He beat Varlamov for the starting job last season.
Washington could have stuck a stick between the pipes and still won. Varlamov couldn't stay healthy to save his life and that's why he lost his job in Washington.

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considering the cost for Varlamov, I would say that McPhee at least listens to an offer for CHI 1st round pick
He's not worth that much more than Bobrovsky. Varlamov's value is in a whole different universe. It's Price-Halak type of difference, scaled down respectively obviously.

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As a Pens fan I'd LOVE this... But this makes no sense from the Caps point of view makes no sense.

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Washington is in no hurry to move Neuvirth so I reckon they wait around for CHI to pay at least a 1st rounder otherwise McPhee hangs up the phone.

beyond that it doesn't make much sense for the caps to trade their goalie insurance for anything less than a ransom

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If Chicago were to Trade for a goalie, I'd imagine they'd make sure it's a sure #1 Not a Guy who is a question mark like neuvirth.

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