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08-30-2012, 05:04 AM
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I wonder how Eric Fehr's doing.

Judging from his twitter, he's enjoying baseball and burritos. It's curious, but not surprising to see that he still has no contract. You think clubs are waiting until after the CBA is done? Or, are you like me in thinking he'll head to Europe next season.

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08-30-2012, 08:33 AM
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I really feel for Eric. He's a great hockey player plagued by injuries. You could tell he was getting really frustrated by the end of the season. I hope his shoulder has healed up over the off-season and he's given another shot in the NHL.

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08-30-2012, 08:40 AM
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My guess is he will show up to a camp and try to earn a contract (most likely candidate of him trying is ours)


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I really feel for Eric. He's a great hockey player plagued by injuries. You could tell he was getting really frustrated by the end of the season. I hope his shoulder has healed up over the off-season and he's given another shot in the NHL.
Injuries aside, he had no puck luck last year. I am pretty comfortable saying that a healthy Fehr is better than Spencer Machacek. He could probably be signed for cheaper than Mach too. If it was easier to count on his health, he'd be a great value signing.

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He's been enjoying life in Manitoba from his Tweets and as for signing him... well he'll need to have a good camp. Guy has had a lot of bad luck with injuries but if he can produce and perhaps play big he would be a huge asset.

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I really hope we sign him.. Never wanted him to hit free agency. If he plays this year I predict 21g, no matter what team.

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08-30-2012, 11:34 AM
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I really feel for Eric. He's a great hockey player plagued by injuries. You could tell he was getting really frustrated by the end of the season. I hope his shoulder has healed up over the off-season and he's given another shot in the NHL.
Huh? Great hockey player?

More like slower than average, okay hands, injury prone, not a play maker.....

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Huh? Great hockey player?

More like slower than average, okay hands, injury prone, not a play maker.....
Great? Maybe not...
But *if healthy*, he would be a certain upgrade on our 4th line and a possible upgrade on our third line.

Both AIH (x2) and JetsNation have broken down how he actually played well last year (equal if not better than some of his previous years) but was hurt by poor puck-luck (and perhaps poor usage as well).

Problem I find is, he works best with soft offensive minutes and we already have a few of those...

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it would be to his/our benefit if the season is locked out so he could have a full year to heal.

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it would be to his/our benefit if the season is locked out so he could have a full year to heal.
?? As he has no contract, I agree it would be beneficial to him to have a locked out season so he can rehab and try to get back to his old self (or improve).

As for our benefit, a lockout and benefit do not mix (IMHO at least).

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Fehr i thought played really well in the Dallas game, he was playing big and was embracing contact, and because of that was getting to a lot of pucks before everyone else. He played this way for a game or two before the Dallas game and i believe got hurt again (one of his teammates fell on his shoulder) a few games afterwards, I can remember his frustration as he walked down the tunnel and started throwing his gloves in anger.

I think Fehr was playing those few games with confidence. I really liked what i saw.

If he's healthy and we give him a shot at camp, no doubt in my mind. He will be making this team.

He'll make any NHL club, if he's healthy.

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Healthy or not, he is not a very good hockey player.

I'd be surprised if he makes any team.

I say retire and save yourself the continued humiliation.

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Healthy or not, he is not a very good hockey player.

I'd be surprised if he makes any team.

I say retire and save yourself the continued humiliation.
He had 21 goals in 2009-10. When healthy he's pretty damn good.

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Healthy or not, he is not a very good hockey player.

I'd be surprised if he makes any team.

I say retire and save yourself the continued humiliation.
Seriously... although he didnt get many points he played better than most on our team's bottom 6. You'd be hard pressed to find more than one 4th liner in any NHL team that plays better than him... some teams would have 3rd liners not as good him.

A Look at Eric Fehr's Underlying Offensive Numbers
Pilot's Logbook 2011-12: Eric Fehr
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I really hope we sign him.. Never wanted him to hit free agency. If he plays this year I predict 21g, no matter what team.

So, what would you have done? Given him a qualifying offer? That'd have been in the area of $2.5M.

Like the guy, but with the season he had along with the rest of the history this was the only route for the Jets to take.

Maybe he can be the next season's Wellwood, maybe not. But that's his best shot, take a small contract from a team with some holes to plug and try yer best to plug all of them and cash in a better contract the next season.

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He was good with washington when he was some what healthy. Maybe with all the time off he has lost his touch or his linemates on Washington impacted and elevated his play. Niclas Bergfors also got 21 goals that year and has never elevated his play again either. So it may of been a flash in the pan.

It will be interesting to see what happens. Hopefully Eric trains hard, leaves it all on the ice and we will see if he earns a contract.

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Can he be offered a two way contract?

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Seriously... although he didnt get many points he played better than most on our team's bottom 6. You'd be hard pressed to find more than one 4th liner in any NHL team that plays better than him... some teams would have 3rd liners not as good him.

A Look at Eric Fehr's Underlying Offensive Numbers
Pilot's Logbook 2011-12: Eric Fehr
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He was good with washington when he was some what healthy. Maybe with all the time off he has lost his touch or his linemates on Washington impacted and elevated his play. Niclas Bergfors also got 21 goals that year and has never elevated his play again either. So it may of been a flash in the pan.

It will be interesting to see what happens. Hopefully Eric trains hard, leaves it all on the ice and we will see if he earns a contract.
See the links I placed above. The last one breaksdown how his big goal year was a bit of possitive puck luck and all 3 show how this year was a lot of negative puck luck (almost historically low puck luck).

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Can he be offered a two way contract?
I know this: he's not eligible to pass through waivers freely


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See the links I placed above. The last one breaksdown how his big goal year was a bit of possitive puck luck and all 3 show how this year was a lot of negative puck luck (almost historically low puck luck).
I wont lie.. I browsed through them. Puck luck or no puck luck he has to show what he can do on the ice and produce results. The stats you provided are interesting but do not change my view of Eric.

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Healthy or not, he is not a very good hockey player.

I'd be surprised if he makes any team.

I say retire and save yourself the continued humiliation.
Ya a lot of Not very good hockey players lead the WHL in scoring!

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I think we'll see him again somewhere. He can be a useful player if he makes a full recovery. I'm going to wish him the best because I believe he's a good guy.

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Ya a lot of Not very good hockey players lead the WHL in scoring!
Agreed he is a good hockey player. That being said some players cannot make the cross over from the WHL to NHL.

Other players that have led the WHL in scoring and not broken out in the NHL :



Tyler Redenbach 03/04 - playing for EHC Olten in the Swiss National League B.
Erik Christensen 02/03 - Plateaued in 06/07 with 18 goals with Pitts 33pts then again in 09-11 with 26/27 pts
Nathan Barrett 01/02 - plays for the Las Vegas Wranglers of the ECHL.
Justin Mapletoft 99/01 - 2 goals with Islanders now with the Straubing Tigers, DEL
Brad Moran 98/99 - 2 points in Columb now plays in AHL


A little early for these guys but
06/07 Hamil - 0 points with Bruins in 20 games and has been traded
07/08 Santorelli - In AHL last 5 years, no NHL games yet
08/09 Casey Pierro-Zabotel - AHl/ECHL last 4 years

Guess the point I want make is not every WHL top leading scorer will succeed or excel in the NHL. Exception Troy Brouwer who led the WHL in points in 05/06

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Agreed he is a good hockey player. That being said some players cannot make the cross over from the WHL to NHL.

Other players that have led the WHL in scoring and not broken out in the NHL :



Tyler Redenbach 03/04 - playing for EHC Olten in the Swiss National League B.
Erik Christensen 02/03 - Plateaued in 06/07 with 18 goals with Pitts 33pts then again in 09-11 with 26/27 pts
Nathan Barrett 01/02 - plays for the Las Vegas Wranglers of the ECHL.
Justin Mapletoft 99/01 - 2 goals with Islanders now with the Straubing Tigers, DEL
Brad Moran 98/99 - 2 points in Columb now plays in AHL


A little early for these guys but
06/07 Hamil - 0 points with Bruins in 20 games and has been traded
07/08 Santorelli - In AHL last 5 years, no NHL games yet
08/09 Casey Pierro-Zabotel - AHl/ECHL last 4 years

Guess the point I want make is not every WHL top leading scorer will succeed or excel in the NHL. Exception Troy Brouwer who led the WHL in points in 05/0
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I actually really like seeing that list. I'm getting OT here but it should remind those prospect junkies that seem to think "the next thing is always the best thing". Even great looking/scoring prospects don't always make the NHL in any capacity.

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Agreed he is a good hockey player. That being said some players cannot make the cross over from the WHL to NHL.

Other players that have led the WHL in scoring and not broken out in the NHL :



Tyler Redenbach 03/04 - playing for EHC Olten in the Swiss National League B.
Erik Christensen 02/03 - Plateaued in 06/07 with 18 goals with Pitts 33pts then again in 09-11 with 26/27 pts
Nathan Barrett 01/02 - plays for the Las Vegas Wranglers of the ECHL.
Justin Mapletoft 99/01 - 2 goals with Islanders now with the Straubing Tigers, DEL
Brad Moran 98/99 - 2 points in Columb now plays in AHL


A little early for these guys but
06/07 Hamil - 0 points with Bruins in 20 games and has been traded
07/08 Santorelli - In AHL last 5 years, no NHL games yet
08/09 Casey Pierro-Zabotel - AHl/ECHL last 4 years

Guess the point I want make is not every WHL top leading scorer will succeed or excel in the NHL. Exception Troy Brouwer who led the WHL in points in 05/06
I was making my comment based on your comment saying he should stop humiliating himself,yes he may never have been an all star if he was able to stay healthy but just thought your comments were a little much.if healthy which I don't think he ever will be again he would be a solid 3rd line scorer on most teams.

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I was making my comment based on your comment saying he should stop humiliating himself,yes he may never have been an all star if he was able to stay healthy but just thought your comments were a little much.if healthy which I don't think he ever will be again he would be a solid 3rd line scorer on most teams.



Unless you are mistaking me with another poster ?

*you are thinking of your response to NewsJet regarding the humilation comment..

I agree with you he was great in the WHL and is a good hockey player but a very large percentage of leading scorers in the WHL never adapt and cross over to be successful in the NHL. Was just illustrating that this may be the case. Also you are right his injuries hampered his progression.


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