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08-31-2012, 08:41 AM
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Hopefully he has been improving his skating and shot this off season.




and round and round we go.

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Yep. He is 23 and "should" be near to his prime as a forward. Sad thing is that this is "as good as it gets" for him or not far from it. As everyone knows, he is running out of time. He is the same age as J. Staal FWIW, and Staal has already played 400+ NHL games. Tangradi is at 40 career games.

Hopefully he has been improving his skating and shot this off season.
and here is proof that some fans are completely spoiled and/or clueless about how a typical player develops. I'm not sure if its more ridiculous to think Staal is a fair comparison for games played or to think that a 23 year old rookie is nearing his prime and doesn't have much room to improve.

Just a really bad post.


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Yep. He is 23 and "should" be near to his prime as a forward. Sad thing is that this is "as good as it gets" for him or not far from it. As everyone knows, he is running out of time. He is the same age as J. Staal FWIW, and Staal has already played 400+ NHL games. Tangradi is at 40 career games.

Hopefully he has been improving his skating and shot this off season.
Second overall pick ≠ second round pick

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Surprised Tangradi would accept a two-way. For the way the organization has been devolving him, he seems to have a very good attitude. I think he will bust but I really want him to prove me wrong. Even if he turns into a Matt Cooke type role player, I'll be happy.
If he's a big banging body and going 15G's 15A's, I'm pretty happy. I was all on board with most of the Pens fans saying let him prove it but I think he did that last year. He's always been good at getting to the front of the net but last year he made some plays, kept his feet moving and fought. We got to notice him more when he took the ice. I would like to see him take that 1 step further and be a little bit more of a bully on the ice. Push and shove after plays are dead, yap and linger in front of the net a little longer than usual. Get that rep of being a JO to play against... its not a bad thing.

I'm not going to start a new thread about it but does anyone else think that its hard to be a winger in Disco's system?

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Yep. He is 23 and "should" be near to his prime as a forward. Sad thing is that this is "as good as it gets" for him or not far from it. As everyone knows, he is running out of time. He is the same age as J. Staal FWIW, and Staal has already played 400+ NHL games. Tangradi is at 40 career games.

Hopefully he has been improving his skating and shot this off season.
Power forwards take a much longer time to develop. He is also still a year younger than Ryan Malone was in his first NHL season. Players develop differently. Comparing him to Jordan Staal is pretty useless since Staal was a number 2 overall pick and had MUCH higher expectations. This is a big year for Tangradi no doubt, be he isn't "running out of time" IMO.

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and round and round we go.
I don't know how anyone can listen to stuff like this and give Errey a pass even though he's funny sometimes. If you're running Root, it's embarrassing to think that guy is your "professional color commentator". The best you have to offer fans. And that his sidekick is considerably WORSE than he is.

Definitely something to that yinzer theory people talk about.

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I don't know how anyone can listen to stuff like this and give Errey a pass even though he's funny sometimes. If you're running Root, it's embarrassing to think that guy is your "professional color commentator". The best you have to offer fans. And that his sidekick is considerably WORSE than he is.

Definitely something to that yinzer theory people talk about.
clips like that are exactly why I love Bob Errey.

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clips like that are exactly why I love Bob Errey.
Help me understand... seriously. Does not compute.

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Help me understand... seriously. Does not compute.
I would ask you the same question.

I love how excited he gets. I don't know what's possibly bad about that clip other than him being super excited. And stressing how erect Tangradi is I guess

What about that clip do you think is bad?

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Yep. He is 23 and "should" be near to his prime as a forward. Sad thing is that this is "as good as it gets" for him or not far from it. As everyone knows, he is running out of time. He is the same age as J. Staal FWIW, and Staal has already played 400+ NHL games. Tangradi is at 40 career games.

Hopefully he has been improving his skating and shot this off season.
People sometimes get too hung up on age, look where Bran Rafalski was at age 26. How about Martn St. Louis? It's different for every player, depending on how ready their body is, mental readiness, opportunity, whatever.

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I would ask you the same question.

I love how excited he gets. I don't know what's possibly bad about that clip other than him being super excited. And stressing how erect Tangradi is I guess

What about that clip do you think is bad?
He does get overly giddy, but I'd rather have someone like that than someone with a bland personality. I almost want to fall asleep when I'm listening some other local sport channel's commentators. You're going to find flaws in anyone you put in that position, might as well have someone that's going to keep it interesting.

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I would ask you the same question.

I love how excited he gets. I don't know what's possibly bad about that clip other than him being super excited. And stressing how erect Tangradi is I guess

What about that clip do you think is bad?

There's nothing wrong about an announcer being excited if there's actually something going on worth being excited about?

Let me do a computer translation of Bob Errey's comments:

"Wow. This player is standing upright in front of the goalie, just as hundreds of other players do every night. He does not want the goalie to see past. Wow. This player is now quickly skating up the ice and doing what he is supposed to be doing, even though nothing he is doing is leading to an exciting scoring chance, big hit or other phenomenon that would normally cause a hockey fan to become excitable."



IOW he is going absolutely crazy over nothing. Tangradi did nothing even mildly interesting during that shift, let alone something remarkable or worthy of high praise. It's like Errey was in a good mood before the game, did a line of cocaine and then when he saw Tangradi he went berserk. I mean OK he's a goofball sometimes and sorta funny with his off-the-wall comments but there's nothing to this (and dozens of others he makes every month). It's just a lot of yapping about nothing.

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There's nothing wrong about an announcer being excited if there's actually something going on worth being excited about?

Let me do a computer translation of Bob Errey's comments:

"Wow. This player is standing upright in front of the goalie, just as hundreds of other players do every night. He does not want the goalie to see past. Wow. This player is now quickly skating up the ice and doing what he is supposed to be doing, even though nothing he is doing is leading to an exciting scoring chance, big hit or other phenomenon that would normally cause a hockey fan to become excitable."



IOW he is going absolutely crazy over nothing. Tangradi did nothing even mildly interesting during that shift, let alone something remarkable or worthy of high praise. It's like Errey was in a good mood before the game, did a line of cocaine and then when he saw Tangradi he went berserk. I mean OK he's a goofball sometimes and sorta funny with his off-the-wall comments but there's nothing to this (and dozens of others he makes every month). It's just a lot of yapping about nothing.
He's a big body than can make life miserable for a goalie around the net and has good wheels for a 230 lb skater.

Errey's probably excited b/c we severely lack that type of skillset on the wing. And as we've all learned over the last calender year, the trade market isn't exactly thriving.

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There's nothing wrong about an announcer being excited if there's actually something going on worth being excited about?

Let me do a computer translation of Bob Errey's comments:

"Wow. This player is standing upright in front of the goalie, just as hundreds of other players do every night. He does not want the goalie to see past. Wow. This player is now quickly skating up the ice and doing what he is supposed to be doing, even though nothing he is doing is leading to an exciting scoring chance, big hit or other phenomenon that would normally cause a hockey fan to become excitable."



IOW he is going absolutely crazy over nothing. Tangradi did nothing even mildly interesting during that shift, let alone something remarkable or worthy of high praise. It's like Errey was in a good mood before the game, did a line of cocaine and then when he saw Tangradi he went berserk. I mean OK he's a goofball sometimes and sorta funny with his off-the-wall comments but there's nothing to this (and dozens of others he makes every month). It's just a lot of yapping about nothing.
BUT LOOK AT HIM GO! THREE STRIDES!


Erreys charm lies in his goofballiness. He says silly crap, he gets super excited and he's an enormous homer (and which frankly, i've never understood the opinion from people that the announcers should be completely unbiased, it's the hometown broadcast! Why should they? More damn homerism!) He says dumb **** he says doesn't really bother me, it's more like "oh Bob, you so silly" then the enormous hate-fest he can get from some people. He's like that friend who is kind of wierd but you love him anyway because it wouldn't be the same without him

He adds alot of charm and persona to the broadcast. I'd be sad to se him go.

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i like errey because he is goofy, but he is also very knowledgeable, a former legit nhl player, and is humble/friendly. and sure, he'll gush over a pens player like ET in that clip, but he's also willing to call out the penguins when their player deserves it.

steiggy is not as funny and also seems very smug/arrogant. he acts like he is a member of the pens roster. he never would criticize a penguins players on the broadcast. steiggy seems like a loser that always wanted to be a part of the jock crew, but never really fit in. which is funny, because thats exactly what he was in high school at south catholic-- loser that didnt play sports but tried to hang with athletes. plus the other steiggy brother is a moron with retarded political views.

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There's nothing wrong about an announcer being excited if there's actually something going on worth being excited about?

Let me do a computer translation of Bob Errey's comments:

"Wow. This player is standing upright in front of the goalie, just as hundreds of other players do every night. He does not want the goalie to see past. Wow. This player is now quickly skating up the ice and doing what he is supposed to be doing, even though nothing he is doing is leading to an exciting scoring chance, big hit or other phenomenon that would normally cause a hockey fan to become excitable."



IOW he is going absolutely crazy over nothing. Tangradi did nothing even mildly interesting during that shift, let alone something remarkable or worthy of high praise. It's like Errey was in a good mood before the game, did a line of cocaine and then when he saw Tangradi he went berserk. I mean OK he's a goofball sometimes and sorta funny with his off-the-wall comments but there's nothing to this (and dozens of others he makes every month). It's just a lot of yapping about nothing.
he's excited that Tangradi is doing the things we need a young big guy to do. I love that he makes note of that kind of thing that isn't blatantly part of the play. It's great for people who don't actually play which is most of the fanbase. The fact that it excites him so much is just bonus


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