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08-29-2012, 11:44 AM
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If Burke strikes out on trading for a #1 Goalie. He will want a veteran back up.

Oilers send Khabibulin and Peckham to Toronto for Cody Franson.

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Lol at Oilers trying to dump salary before the CBA comes into effect. Don't worry, I doubt it will happen just like that.

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Both Khabibulin and Peckham are useless to the Leafs. Why would Burke trade for Khabi if he struck out on getting a #1? He already has quality back-up goaltenders in Reimer and the other guy.

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Yeah, no way from Toronto.

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Counter proposal:

Komisarek + Lombardi for Omark if the Oilers strike out on getting a top-pairing stay at home d-man.

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Burke is not a fan of enforcers eating up defensemen minutes so I doubt he has any interest in Peckham.

I don't disagree that Burke would be looking for a vet backup if we don't get a starter but I have a hunch that Khabi isn't the mentor we're looking for.

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Keep Franson, he's a human pylon, Peckham is more useful than he is.

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Not really a good trade for anyone... Less so for Toronto though

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Lol at Oilers trying to dump salary before the CBA comes into effect. Don't worry, I doubt it will happen just like that.
*single oiler fan, actually.

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*single oiler fan, actually.
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Keep Franson, he's a human pylon, Peckham is more useful than he is.
is this a joke? Franson > Peckham.

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08-29-2012, 01:55 PM
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Khabi is unwanted by any team unless he can prove himself in the first half and if he does why would EDM move him. His contract is up and then he will be bye bye. I only wish Horc's contract was up.

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is this a joke? Franson > Peckham.
Franson does not bring the physical element that Peckham does. Sure the Oilers would like to upgrade Peckham but Franson is not that. Franson does not make our defensive unit better only softer.

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Khabi is unwanted by any team unless he can prove himself in the first half and if he does why would EDM move him. His contract is up and then he will be bye bye. I only wish Horc's contract was up.
Agreed Khabby can continue to mentor Dubnyk this year. His contract is up at the end of the year so off the books then at the latest if he is not traded for a pick at the deadline.

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Franson does not bring the physical element that Peckham does. Sure the Oilers would like to upgrade Peckham but Franson is not that. Franson does not make our defensive unit better only softer.
Haha Im not a fan of either team, but Peckham is absolute trash and shouldn't be on anyone's top 6. Franson is a clear upgrade over Peckham. If you're keeping him in your lineup for his "physicality", that's just a mistake.

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Lol at Oilers trying to dump salary before the CBA comes into effect. Don't worry, I doubt it will happen just like that.
LOL at Canuckle fans getting involved in Oil discussions at every turn.

The reason why this can work is because the Leafs need veteran goalie, and a defencemen that has some truculence.

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Edmonton needs a backup goalie and Franson might be a # 6-8 d-man with Edmonton before this trade... it's just not worth the hassle. Who're they going to bring in to backup Dubnyk?

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Personally, I think Franson is quite a bit better than Peckham. Maybe that's me.

Don't see the Oilers getting rid of Khabibulin's contract without taking something back.

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LOL at Canuckle fans getting involved in Oil discussions at every turn.

The reason why this can work is because the Leafs need veteran goalie, and a defencemen that has some truculence.
meh on both counts.

They need a veteran *starting goalie*. Leafs don't have any particular pressing need for a #7 defenseman - heck, they probably want to unload a defenseman.

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Personally, I think Franson is quite a bit better than Peckham. Maybe that's me.

Don't see the Oilers getting rid of Khabibulin's contract without taking something back.
Well some people (I have no opinion on the matter) might say that Khabibulin would be deadly behind a decent blueline.

Take that for what it is.

He's on the last year of his contract and the showers heads in the Leafs dressing room are probably gold plated. It's not like there's much else for them to spend on salary wise...

But still. Doesn't make sense to me from an Oil fan POV.

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is this a joke? Franson > Peckham.
Yes Peckham had a bad year last season, but that was in part due to him showing up to camp out of shape. If he returns to form of 2yrs ago there would be no comparison. Rather wait and see how he does then trade for a D that has a history of standing around doing a cheap imitation of a pylon.

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Yes Peckham had a bad year last season, but that was in part due to him showing up to camp out of shape. If he returns to form of 2yrs ago there would be no comparison. Rather wait and see how he does then trade for a D that has a history of standing around doing a cheap imitation of a pylon.
I guess his pylon impression is what kept him in Trotz's lineup while he was with the Preds... which was roughly two years ago, back when your bud, Peckham, was coming to camp in shape.

Peckham is a goon while Franson has legit skill.

I'm not saying that Franson is some elite defender, or anything more than an offensive specialist... but please don't try and pretend that Peckham is better than Franson in any way other than hits or fists.

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I guess his pylon impression is what kept him in Trotz's lineup while he was with the Preds... which was roughly two years ago, back when your bud, Peckham, was coming to camp in shape.

Peckham is a goon while Franson has legit skill.

I'm not saying that Franson is some elite defender, or anything more than an offensive specialist... but please don't try and pretend that Peckham is better than Franson in any way other than hits or fists.
Franson played protected minutes under Trotz, which is a well known fact.

Peckham is a gritty stay at home D that does a excellent job at the PK. There's nothing flashy about him, and he has no offensive skills whatsoever. He could be a solid 5/6 D if he stick to his game, the question can he. Technically Franson and Peckham are 2 different types of D and Edmonton needs the Peckham more than they need a Franson. Peckham could make the Oilers were Franson not a chance.

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Both Khabibulin and Peckham are useless to the Leafs. Why would Burke trade for Khabi if he struck out on getting a #1? He already has quality back-up goaltenders in Reimer and the other guy.
and cody is useless to the oilers

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Well some people (I have no opinion on the matter) might say that Khabibulin would be deadly behind a decent blueline.

Take that for what it is.

He's on the last year of his contract and the showers heads in the Leafs dressing room are probably gold plated. It's not like there's much else for them to spend on salary wise...

But still. Doesn't make sense to me from an Oil fan POV.
I'm not sure how trading him to the Leafs is going to help then...

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Toronto says no.

Moot point - Burke has absolutely no interest in Khabibulin... Edmonton already inquired. If Burke had any faith in the guy, he would've dealt for him last year when the Leafs were in a tailspin and Dubnyk had already taken the #1 job.

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