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Detroit Red Wings Prospect #19

View Poll Results: Who is #19
Adam Almqvist 21 37.50%
Andreas Athanasiou 12 21.43%
Mitchell Callahan 5 8.93%
Brian Lashoff 6 10.71%
Ben Marshall 0 0%
Michael McKee 0 0%
Richard Nedomlel 5 8.93%
Max Nicastro 0 0%
Jake Paterson 1 1.79%
Alan Quine 6 10.71%
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09-01-2012, 10:48 AM
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Detroit Red Wings Prospect #19

1.) Brendan Smith - D, 6'1" 198 lbs: Mimico, ON, CAN 72.73%
2.) Gustav Nyquist - RW/LW, 5'11" 185 lbs: Halmstad, SWE 68.75%
3.) Calle Järnkrok - C, 6'0" 183 lbs: Gävle, SWE 72.73%
4.) Tomáš Tatar - LW/RW, 5'10" 186 lbs: Ilava, SVK 44.44%
5.) Tomas Jurco - RW, 6'2" 187 lbs: Kosice, SVK 65.85%
6.) Riley Sheahan - C, 6'2" 223 lbs: St. Catharines, ON, CAN 27.78%
7.) Teemu Pulkkinen - RW, 5'10" 198 lbs: Vantaa, FIN 35.92%
8.) Xavier Ouellet - D, 6'1" 190 lbs: Bayonne, FRA 45.24%
9.) Ryan Sproul - D, 6'3" 186 lbs: Mississauga, ON, CAN 45.98%
10.) Petr Mrázek - G, 6'2" 185 lbs: Ostrava, CZE 62.69%
11.) Martin Frk - RW, 6'0" 203 lbs: Bochov, CZE 34.41%
12.) Marek Tvrdoň - LW, 6'2" 218 lbs: Nitra, SVK 54.55%
13.) Nick Jensen - D, 6'0" 194 lbs: Rogers, MN, USA 35.53%
14.) Alexei Marchenko - D, 6'02'' 183 lbs: Moscow, RUS 39.02%
15.) Joakim Andersson - C, 6'2" 206 lbs: Munkedal, SWE 52.94%
16.) Mattias Bäckman - D, 6'2" 170 lbs: Linköping, SWE 40.00%
17.) Louis-Marc Aubry - C, 6'4" 205 lbs: Trois-Rivières, QC, CAN 33.87%
18.) Landon Ferraro - C, 6'0 174: Trail, BC, CAN 38.98%


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Added McKee (it was between Nesty and McKee, I believe, with two votes each, so I flipped a coin.

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Thanks for doing this Bob.

Voted Almqvist. Add Coetzee.

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I voted Andreas Awhatever

AA has NHL level skating, decent size and has great hands. When you're talking about your #19 prospect, you don't write off his kind of skill set. This dude might turn out to be the best forward prospect in our organization when all is said and done. I won't say that's the likely outcome. But it's possible.
There's not a single forward on our list you can say that about.

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Gotta go for my man Almqvist!

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How sad is it that McCollum isn't even on the poll at this point? Epic fail.

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Andreas Anthanasiou hands down. He should of been higher up I feel. With the hands and speed he has and hitting ability he has, I feel he's a lock to be a 3rd/4th liner like Helm. In that article Bob posted, he was getting 5-10 minutes a game and put up 22 goals. So if he was getting 15+ on top 2 lines, he'd put up 30+ easily. He's young and can change a lot. I feel we'll be seeing him jump up the charts next year right behind Tatar and co.

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Not that I think Andreas Athanasiou is really comparable to Helm, because I think if Andreas Athanasiou had Helm's ticker, the Knights wouldn't have moved him ...
But here are Helm's draft year numbers:
72 10 14 24
Here are Athanasiou's numbers
63 22 15 37

Is it reasonable that AA will see his numbers jump like Helm? Helm became a 40 goal man in the OHL.
Can Athanasiou double his production? I think he can. New team. bigger role. A year older and stronger.

I wonder where Athanasiou ranks if he scores 40 goals this year. Then again, Quine scored 30 last year and that doesn't seem to have helped his status

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Could someone give me a couple pros/cons in Almqvist's game? I'm not seeing how he's more valuable than Anthanasiou and Quine.

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AA, best potential of the rest.

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Athanasiou, add McCollum, his 9 lives arent up yet.

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Is it reasonable that AA will see his numbers jump like Helm? Helm became a 40 goal man in the OHL.
Helm played in the WHL

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Quine plays in the same league, is also a fantastic skater, and produces more points. Tell me why Athanasiou should be getting more votes than Quine.

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Quine plays in the same league, is also a fantastic skater, and produces more points. Tell me why Athanasiou should be getting more votes than Quine.
Quine has had a pretty big role in getting those points. And he's been a huge minus player, too
Based strictly on upside, I think AA has the better skill set. While Quine is fast, I don't believe he has AA's upside. He's also under 6'0

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Quine has had a pretty big role in getting those points. And he's been a huge minus player, too
Based strictly on upside, I think AA has the better skill set. While Quine is fast, I don't believe he has AA's upside. He's also under 6'0
Shouldn't it be a knock against AA that he wasn't good enough to win a big role to get a chance to put up more points?

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Shouldn't it be a knock against AA that he wasn't good enough to win a big role to get a chance to put up more points?
Do you think Quine, in his draft year, would have had a major role on a stacked team like the Knights?

Athanasiou draft year:
63 22 15 37 +22
Quine Draft year
52 22 20 42 -35

The other thing to consider is that Athanasiou was considered a top 15-20 pick at one time. I don't think that was ever true for Quine

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Andreas Anthanasiou hands down. He should of been higher up I feel. With the hands and speed he has and hitting ability he has, I feel he's a lock to be a 3rd/4th liner like Helm. In that article Bob posted, he was getting 5-10 minutes a game and put up 22 goals. So if he was getting 15+ on top 2 lines, he'd put up 30+ easily. He's young and can change a lot. I feel we'll be seeing him jump up the charts next year right behind Tatar and co.
Its brutally uninformed posts like this that have Athansiou getting votes right now against other people that deserve it. What hitting ability are you talking about? This guy is arguably the softest Detroit prospect . He is fast, only thing comparable with Helm. He shouldnt be getting votes against guys like Lashoff who have had some pro success, Almquist who was destroying hockey back in the day or Callahan who went to a fricken World Junior championship and is the most likely fourth liner out of most of the prospects. Hes almost a guaranteed NHLer but you voted for Athanasiou.

Some days you guys will watch him play I guess and youll see what I'm talking about, until then just keep reading about speed and flashy hands

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Quine plays in the same league, is also a fantastic skater, and produces more points. Tell me why Athanasiou should be getting more votes than Quine.
He shouldnt...

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Its brutally uninformed posts like this that have Athansiou getting votes right now against other people that deserve it. What hitting ability are you talking about? This guy is arguably the softest Detroit prospect . He is fast, only thing comparable with Helm. He shouldnt be getting votes against guys like Lashoff who have had some pro success, Almquist who was destroying hockey back in the day or Callahan who went to a fricken World Junior championship and is the most likely fourth liner out of most of the prospects. Hes almost a guaranteed NHLer but you voted for Athanasiou.

Some days you guys will watch him play I guess and youll see what I'm talking about, until then just keep reading about speed and flashy hands



He shouldnt...
"He's going to be able to play just because of his skating ability and his speed," Red Wings director of scouting Joe McDonnell said in June. "Then it's just a matter of what he's going to be. Is he going to be a checker or is he going to be a top-two line guy? That's what's going to sort itself out the next five, six years.

"But in my mind, there's no question he's going to play because of his skating."

Here's the report on Hockey's Future

Athanasious has the speed and hands to be a dangerous NHL forward, but his all-around game isn't well developed at this point. He may not have the hockey sense to round into anything more than a utility player, but he does have the physical skills and skating ability to turn into an offensive threat at the pro level.

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