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Round of 32 (rd. 3): "Best NA Pro Prospect" - 17. Joe Colborne vs. 18. Jordan Caron

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Joe Colborne 28 50.00%
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09-02-2012, 03:35 PM
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Round of 32 (rd. 3): "Best NA Pro Prospect" - 17. Joe Colborne vs. 18. Jordan Caron

Round 3, down to 32..

QUALIFICATIONS: Minimum of 50 AHL + NHL games played (20 AHL + NHL games played for Gs); Maximum of 100 NHL games played (30 NHL games played for Gs); 26 years old or younger by 12/31/12; Signed to play in North America next season; Can't have played more than 50 NHL games in 11/12 NHL season, injured players exempt (ie. Mike Sauer, Jacob Josefson, etc.)

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Matchup of two former Bruins' first rounders. Jordan Caron did not look out of place in the Bruins' bottom 6 last season with solid 2-way play. While Colborne's early season AHL play and his quiet 5 points in 10 NHL games last year show his underlying potential.


17. Joe Colborne (TOR)
http://eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=18593

Round 2: def. 56. Matt Fraser - 76%
Round 1: def. 112. Greg Nemisz - 83%


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18. Jordan Caron (BOS)
http://eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=32870

Round 2: def. 54. Cory Coacher - 78%
Round 1: def. 111. Brandon Manning - 95%

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09-02-2012, 08:37 PM
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Colborne can't crack the Leafs roster.

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Caron. He's younger, cracked a much better roster, more NHL points and has already stuck in the N.

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Same way I saw it when Colborne was still a Bruins prospect: Colborne has much higher upside, but Caron is a much safer bet. Weighing the two out, I'll give the slight edge to Colborne.

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Colborne can't break the Leafs and Caron made one of the best teams in the league, made an impact, and has a starting spot next season(fingers crossed anyway).

I agree with the above post to an extent. Caron is the much, much safer choice but if Colborne lives up to his potential he might be the better player. Still taking Caron though


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Colborne can't break the Marlies and Caron made one of the best teams in the league, made an impact, and has a starting spot next season(fingers crossed anyway).

I agree with the above post to an extent. Caron is the much, much safer choice but if Colborne lives up to his potential he might be the better player. Still taking Caron though
Colborne played on the Marlies the majority of the year, and was one of the best players. Also was pretty good in the playoffs, and played good with the leafs in his 10 games, not sure what your on but...

Anyhow Colborne. Go big or go home

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Colborne played on the Marlies the majority of the year, and was one of the best players. Also was pretty good in the playoffs, and played good with the leafs in his 10 games, not sure what your on but...

Anyhow Colborne. Go big or go home
By break the Marlies I mean make the NHL. Looking back at my post I worded it wrong. Sorry for the confusion, didn't mean he wasn't good enough for the AHL.

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By break the Marlies I mean make the NHL. Looking back at my post I worded it wrong. Sorry for the confusion, didn't mean he wasn't good enough for the AHL.
What does making the Leafs roster have to do with anything?

I don't get people trashing Leafs prospect just because they can't make the Leafs roster.

The Leafs are a bad team at the moment. It doesn't mean you just throw prospects into the fire.

Brian Burke, you can trash him ALL you want, but he will NEVER rush a prospect and the one time that it did happen under his watch was because of Ron Wilson rushing Schenn because he was psychically ready. Burke strongly believes in AHL development and it's better to stay there longer than not at all.

He signed Connolly to a two year contract for a reason..to make sure that prospects like Kadri and Colborne have ample time to hone their skills. Colborne has shown in his few games in the NHL that he's a pretty darn good playmaker, good skater for his size but still needs more time to focus on faceoffs, responsibilities etc. Talent and work ethic is unquestionable.

When you rush prospects you end up with guys like Nino Niederrieter, Paajarvi and countless other guys that are rushed.

Fact of the matter is, no matter how terrible a team is you don't rush prospects.

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What does making the Leafs roster have to do with anything?

I don't get people trashing Leafs prospect just because they can't make the Leafs roster.

The Leafs are a bad team at the moment. It doesn't mean you just throw prospects into the fire.

Brian Burke, you can trash him ALL you want, but he will NEVER rush a prospect and the one time that it did happen under his watch was because of Ron Wilson rushing Schenn because he was psychically ready. Burke strongly believes in AHL development and it's better to stay there longer than not at all.

He signed Connolly to a two year contract for a reason..to make sure that prospects like Kadri and Colborne have ample time to hone their skills. Colborne has shown in his few games in the NHL that he's a pretty darn good playmaker, good skater for his size but still needs more time to focus on faceoffs, responsibilities etc. Talent and work ethic is unquestionable.

When you rush prospects you end up with guys like Nino Niederrieter, Paajarvi and countless other guys that are rushed.

Fact of the matter is, no matter how terrible a team is you don't rush prospects.
I'm a Bruins fan... Trust me, I know all about our GM taking their time with important prospects.

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What does making the Leafs roster have to do with anything?

I don't get people trashing Leafs prospect just because they can't make the Leafs roster.

The Leafs are a bad team at the moment. It doesn't mean you just throw prospects into the fire.

Brian Burke, you can trash him ALL you want, but he will NEVER rush a prospect and the one time that it did happen under his watch was because of Ron Wilson rushing Schenn because he was psychically ready. Burke strongly believes in AHL development and it's better to stay there longer than not at all.

He signed Connolly to a two year contract for a reason..to make sure that prospects like Kadri and Colborne have ample time to hone their skills. Colborne has shown in his few games in the NHL that he's a pretty darn good playmaker, good skater for his size but still needs more time to focus on faceoffs, responsibilities etc. Talent and work ethic is unquestionable.

When you rush prospects you end up with guys like Nino Niederrieter, Paajarvi and countless other guys that are rushed.

Fact of the matter is, no matter how terrible a team is you don't rush prospects.
I believe it was Fletcher and Wilson that made the decision to keep Schenn up. Burke came in after the decision was made. I remember (take it with a grain of salt, but I'm pretty sure) that Burke said if it were up to him there was a good chance he would have been sent back to the WHL.

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Easily Caron. Colborne has the physical tools to be better but he's so soft, there just seems to be something missing. Caron should be a solid third liner.

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Colborne but close.

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Caron, I don't think Colborne will have anything more than a cup of coffee in the NHL (under 100 career games)... I could be wrong, but nothing ever really stood out to me about him.

Caron won't be anything special but he should be a good 4th/3rd liner for a few a years and when all is said and done have a better/longer career than Colborne.

Neither of these guys will be stars, just my thoughts.

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Caron, Colborne can't make the Leafs roster while Caron has made the Bruins roster despite being drafted a year later. Caron is more physical, better defensively, and looks like he will be a 20 goal scorer in the NHL to me. Colborne looks like he can be a #2 center in the AHL. His skill isn't translating to the NHL as of yet. He plays timid at times, was pretty terrible defensively in the NHL and doesn't seem to play with much desire.

Colborne looks like he may have more natural ability, but he doesn't have any of the drive that Caron does. It's coming up on 5 years for Colborne, he is really starting to look like a bust while Caron is a 3rd liner on a very good team.

That is all just my opinion and maybe there have been players who have languished in the minors for 5 years and then become good NHL players, but I would go with Caron easily.

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Colborne played on the Marlies the majority of the year, and was one of the best players. Also was pretty good in the playoffs, and played good with the leafs in his 10 games, not sure what your on but...

Anyhow Colborne. Go big or go home
You think Colborne played well in the NHL? He looked terrible in the 3 games I saw. Really bad. Against Boston it really looked like they were men and Colborne was a boy despite his size. He played soft and small.

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Colborne, although I have to admit that I haven't seen Caron playing too many times...

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Colborne, although I have to admit that I haven't seen Caron playing too many times...
and how much have you seen Colborne play?

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Colborne has much more upside. More risk but his upside is 1/2C

I don't see Caron being anything more than a 3rd or 4th liner and that's why I don't get why this is even close at all. By most people's logic in this thread Caron is a better prospect than Kadri, Blacker, Frattin (kind of?), etc.

All those guys will be better NHL players than Caron. Book it.

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