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Article on Luongo practices this morning and greatly favors return to Panthers
His value is nill if you ask me. It's going to be crazy seeing Canucks fans crying over the poor return.
1. Luongo has a NTC.
2. Qustions arounds his ability to win the big game
3. His albatross of a contract
4. Teams are in no hurry to acquire him.
There is one theory floating around though, that the Canucks might try and get Luongo to waive his NTC elsewhere because they are going to hang the ability of placing him on waivers over his head.
Oilers or Columbus he might end up if that happens. Doubt he wants that.
His value is nill if you ask me. It's going to be crazy seeing Canucks fans crying over the poor return.
1. Luongo has a NTC.
2. Qustions arounds his ability to win the big game
3. His albatross of a contract
4. Teams are in no hurry to acquire him.
There is one theory floating around though, that the Canucks might try and get Luongo to waive his NTC elsewhere because they are going to hang the ability of placing him on waivers over his head.
Oilers or Columbus he might end up if that happens. Doubt he wants that.
*Sigh*
I guess we'll see when it happens what kind of return we'll get.
His value is nill if you ask me. It's going to be crazy seeing Canucks fans crying over the poor return.
1. Luongo has a NTC.
2. Qustions arounds his ability to win the big game
3. His albatross of a contract
4. Teams are in no hurry to acquire him.
There is one theory floating around though, that the Canucks might try and get Luongo to waive his NTC elsewhere because they are going to hang the ability of placing him on waivers over his head.
Oilers or Columbus he might end up if that happens. Doubt he wants that.
This kind of argument has been brought out so many times & Canuck fans have made their points on all of them... great to see people still bringing these out.
It's going to be crazy seeing Canucks fans crying over the poor return.
While I do agree that the return will be disappointing based on the expectations here, there should be a decent return.
But I wanted to comment about how the fan reaction will go down because it's the same blueprint for every fan base. A trade will happen and during the first ten minutes there will be extreme outrage. There will be calls for the GMs head and all sorts of blather. After ten minutes the fan base will begin to convince themselves that it's really not that bad, there are some good pieces here. After an hour the fan base will circle the wagons against any naysayers from other teams and will defend it to the death as a good deal.
Then of course a portion of said fan base will engage all comers with bizarre stat rebuttals for years and years about how hey actually won the deal.
While I do agree that the return will be disappointing based on the expectations here, there should be a decent return.
But I wanted to comment about how the fan reaction will go down because it's the same blueprint for every fan base. A trade will happen and during the first ten minutes there will be extreme outrage. There will be calls for the GMs head and all sorts of blather. After ten minutes the fan base will begin to convince themselves that it's really not that bad, there are some good pieces here. After an hour the fan base will circle the wagons against any naysayers from other teams and will defend it to the death as a good deal.
Then of course a portion of said fan base will engage all comers with bizarre stat rebuttals for years and years about how hey actually won the deal.
His value is nill if you ask me. It's going to be crazy seeing Canucks fans crying over the poor return.
1. Luongo has a NTC.
2. Qustions arounds his ability to win the big game
3. His albatross of a contract
4. Teams are in no hurry to acquire him.
There is one theory floating around though, that the Canucks might try and get Luongo to waive his NTC elsewhere because they are going to hang the ability of placing him on waivers over his head.
Oilers or Columbus he might end up if that happens. Doubt he wants that.
Waivers is a looming last resort to be sure. Trade will happen as soon as the CBA gets done and then we'll know. He said he wants to go so I don't see how he can play in Vancouver again.
I know it's really hard to google "Vancouver Province" and then click on the sports tab.
Here, I'll pull the money quote for you too
Quote:
Earlier this week, Luongo made his most direct public statement, saying the Florida Panthers made sense as his next destination. He’s spoken privately with Panthers management, and the Canucks are well aware that Florida is his preferred destination.
"Earlier this week, Luongo made his most direct public statement, saying the Florida Panthers made sense as his next destination. He’s spoken privately with Panthers management, and the Canucks are well aware that Florida is his preferred destination."
If this is true, and it came with Gillis' blessing, then I'd guess Luongo will be a Panther the moment the next CBA is in place.
Gillis' need to deal Luongo will increase and his asking price will decrease when the cap drops. As I've stated in the past, Luongo will be dealt at nearly the same moment the new CBA is implemented.
There's other ways to get around the cap drop then deal Luongo.
And Florida's need for a goaltender will increase as will the asking price, when Florida states ******** the bed and as the Canucks compete for the WC.
The trade will come as one of the teams Luongo has stated he's willing to go to loses for the first bit of the season. I'm guessing very early December.
There's other ways to get around the cap drop then deal Luongo.
And Florida's need for a goaltender will increase as will the asking price, when Florida states ******** the bed and as the Canucks compete for the WC.
The trade will come as one of the teams Luongo has stated he's willing to go to loses for the first bit of the season. I'm guessing very early December.
The Canucks will be without Kesler for how long? What upgrades did Vancouver make to its roster this offseason? Any improvements to the Canucks' pathetic offense? Gaunce and Schroeder to the rescue? Yeah, good luck with all that.
His value is nill if you ask me. It's going to be crazy seeing Canucks fans crying over the poor return.
1. Luongo has a NTC.
2. Qustions arounds his ability to win the big game
3. His albatross of a contract
4. Teams are in no hurry to acquire him.
There is one theory floating around though, that the Canucks might try and get Luongo to waive his NTC elsewhere because they are going to hang the ability of placing him on waivers over his head.
Oilers or Columbus he might end up if that happens. Doubt he wants that.
Clearly your theory and it's aligned so well with the well informed four points you've made.
1) On his list of teams are two or three in need of a goaltender
2) If you don't know his ability to win a game. Check it out. http://kuklaskorner.com/psh/comments...ce-the-lockout
3) The amount per year is significantly less for comparable goalies
4) Wait until they start losing. TO is still a rubbish team on paper. If everyone wants to stand pat, the Canucks always look better than the teams on Luongo's list.
The reason for no trade thus-far is to gain the advantage in a negotiation; desperation. Luongo will be traded when Florida or TO starts losing.
The Canucks will be without Kesler for how long? What upgrades did Vancouver make to its roster this offseason? Any improvements to the Canucks' pathetic offense? Gaunce and Schroeder to the rescue? Yeah, good luck with all that.
Well we did add Garrison, but blasting other teams(and I know he started it) will get us nowhere.
The Canucks will be without Kesler for how long? What upgrades did Vancouver make to its roster this offseason? Any improvements to the Canucks' pathetic offense? Gaunce and Schroeder to the rescue? Yeah, good luck with all that.
That's a really weird statement considering our upgrade was one of your better defensemen.,Garrison.
5th in the NHL in GPG. Another educated statement. Very pathetic offense.
Any improvements to the Canucks' pathetic offense.
1st in wins...
5th in goals for...
4th in goals against...
Viewing either of the season befores' Stanley Cup Finalists as weak based on their performances in the most recent playoff would be foolish. That was a long, drawn out run for both teams and both showed a lack of interest in competing. In other words...an off year.
They both also managed to finish high despite their apparent lack of interest.
I think it's a big laughable to call the Bruins OR Canucks offence pathetic.
Because, according to your fellow Canucks fan (LetsBeReality), Florida will **** the bed and thus come begging for Luongo from Vancouver, who will be challenging for the Western Conference title. So, I asked, what has Vancouver done that ensures they'll challenge for a Western title? Garrison instead of Salo is a mild upgrade at best. Again, how long will you be without Kesler. And, yes, 1.61 goals for per game vs. LAK in Rd1 and 1.15 goals per game vs. BOS in the SCF from last regular season's 4th best offense is embarrassing. How've they improved on that side of the puck? What makes you think Vancouver's fortunes will change?
Because, according to your fellow Canucks fan (LetsBeReality), Florida will **** the bed and thus come begging for Luongo from Vancouver, who will be challenging for the Western Conference title. So, I asked, what has Vancouver done that ensures they'll challenge for a Western title? Garrison instead of Salo is a mild upgrade at best. Again, how long will you be without Kesler. And, yes, 1.61 goals for per game vs. LAK in Rd1 and 1.15 goals per game vs. BOS in the SCF from last regular season's 4th best offense is embarrassing. How've they improved on that side of the puck? What makes you think Vancouver's fortunes will change?
That come playoff time our 2 best scorers won't be injured. But it really doesn't matter how well we do, if any one of Florida, Toronto, Chicago, Washington, etc struggle out the gate we could move Luongo.
It is pretty bold to declare that Florida is certain to struggle, but one of those teams likely will.
Because, according to your fellow Canucks fan (LetsBeReality), Florida will **** the bed and thus come begging for Luongo from Vancouver, who will be challenging for the Western Conference title. So, I asked, what has Vancouver done that ensures they'll challenge for a Western title? Garrison instead of Salo is a mild upgrade at best. Again, how long will you be without Kesler. And, yes, 1.61 goals for per game vs. LAK in Rd1 and 1.15 goals per game vs. BOS in the SCF from last regular season's 4th best offense is embarrassing. How've they improved on that side of the puck? What makes you think Vancouver's fortunes will change?
Boston is a bad example because our 1st, 2nd and 3rd line centres and the entire top 4 of the defense was badly injured. There isn't a single team that wouldn't look pathetic like that. Against LAK everyone except Henrik and the goalies played awful.
If Garrison gels with Edler that is a significant upgrade, but really all that we need for our "struggling offense" to come through for us is decent luck with avoiding injuries in the playoffs.
All of the numbers indicate Florida is in for a significant drop-off this year. I don't think it's bold to say that Florida may very well be struggling for a playoff spot next season.
His value is nill if you ask me. It's going to be crazy seeing Canucks fans crying over the poor return.
Most of the level-headed, rational Canuck fans expect a package that is something along the lines of: decent roster player (3rd line forward that provides a bit more offense), second tier prospect, and a late 1st/early 2nd round pick. Nothing over the moon, but still something that helps our team both now and in the future.
Because, according to your fellow Canucks fan (LetsBeReality), Florida will **** the bed and thus come begging for Luongo from Vancouver, who will be challenging for the Western Conference title. So, I asked, what has Vancouver done that ensures they'll challenge for a Western title? Garrison instead of Salo is a mild upgrade at best. Again, how long will you be without Kesler. And, yes, 1.61 goals for per game vs. LAK in Rd1 and 1.15 goals per game vs. BOS in the SCF from last regular season's 4th best offense is embarrassing. How've they improved on that side of the puck? What makes you think Vancouver's fortunes will change?
Umm, it's not just Canucks fans. The betting market has generally ranked the Canucks 3rd or 4th favorites to win the Cup while they've ranked Florida in the mid-20s. Nothing is set in stone but saying the Canucks will compete to win the West while Florida will struggle to make the playoffs is currently a well supported position.
