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03-29-2017, 01:56 AM
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What do the Jets need to do to Surpass the Wildcard?

What do the Jets need to do this offseason to become Top 3 in the Central?

Before I give you my thoughts on what I believe they need to accomplish I want to start by asking you for your off-season goals.

What I believe they need to do:
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•Draft the most NHL ready player at our pick(Center or Defensman)
-I believe its Cody Glass(a realistic pick as well)

•Sign Karl Alzner

•Sign Scott Darling

•Trade Little(maybe a couple 2nd round picks as well) for a 1st Round pick(top 15 pick)
- The best of the defenseman available by that pick

•Get rid of Enstrom some how(before the Expansion)

•Pick up a couple Playoff Vets in FA

•Bring Connor, Roslovic and Poolman up

•Make sure Armia gets more ice time

•Make Helle and Comrie compete for NHL ice time

Lineup:
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Laine Scheifele Ehlers
Armia Glass Wheeler
Connor Roslovic Petan
Dano Lowry Perrault

Morrisey Trouba
Alzner Byfuglien
Poolman Myers

Darling
Hellebuyck/ Comrie


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03-29-2017, 02:23 AM
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- fire Chevy

- fire Maurice

- fire Flaherty

-fire Huddy

- acquire a veteran goalie to split the goaltending duties with Helle

- acquire two defensemen in the top 6, while buying out Stuart

- improve special teams

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What do the Jets need to do this offseason to become Top 3 in the Central?

Before I give you my thoughts on what I believe they need to accomplish I want to start by asking you for your off-season goals.

What I believe they need to do:
-----------------------------------
•Draft the most NHL ready player(Center or Defensman)
-I believe its Cody Glass(a realistic pick as well)

•Sign Karl Alzner

•Sign Scott Darling

•Trade Little(maybe a couple picks as well or Buff)for a 1st Round pick

•Get rid of Enstrom some how(before the Expansion)

•Pick up a couple Playoff Vets in FA

•Bring Conner, Roslovic and Poolman up

•Make sure Armia gets more ice time

•Make Helle and Comrie compete for NHL time

Lineup:
--------
Laine Scheifele Ehlers
Armia Glass Wheeler
Connor Roslovic Petan
Dano Lowry Perrault

Morrisey Trouba
Alzner Byfuglien
Poolman Myers

Darling
Hellebuyck/ Comrie
Trading Little for a first round pick is the exact opposite way of trying to get into the playoffs next year.


Fire Maurice. Get a veteran goalie. Sign the best defencemen you can get.

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03-29-2017, 07:00 AM
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Trading Little for a first round pick is the exact opposite way of trying to get into the playoffs next year.


Fire Maurice. Get a veteran goalie. Sign the best defencemen you can get.



You nailed it in 13 words. On top of that the 18-24 y/o group is a year older. Just stay healthy and I think you see a big jump up next season.

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Trading Little for a first round pick is the exact opposite way of trying to get into the playoffs next year.


Fire Maurice. Get a veteran goalie. Sign the best defencemen you can get.
This absolutely nailed it-well done.

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Trading Little for a first round pick is the exact opposite way of trying to get into the playoffs next year.


Fire Maurice. Get a veteran goalie. Sign the best defencemen you can get.
This describes my thoughts on the matter pretty succinctly. In addition to the young core that's already here, we may also see Roslovic and Connor supplement the line-up - combined with the above, I think that's enough. You may be able to get by without doing all of the bolded, but I think you may regret it at the end of the year if you don't follow through on those moves.

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Trading Little for a first round pick is the exact opposite way of trying to get into the playoffs next year.


Fire Maurice. Get a veteran goalie. Sign the best defencemen you can get.
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Trading Little for a first round pick is the exact opposite way of trying to get into the playoffs next year.


Fire Maurice. Get a veteran goalie. Sign the best defencemen you can get.
This post sums it up.

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Fire Maurice. Get a veteran goalie. Sign the best defencemen you can get.
Good plan.

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Trade Little?
Okay so now we have one centre and his faceoffs are less than 50/50

Signs of desperation

Teams got depth. Use that. Not your supporting cast. Not your centre who's your best two way centre and your best face off player

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Trading Little for a first round pick is the exact opposite way of trying to get into the playoffs next year.


Fire Maurice. Get a veteran goalie. Sign the best defencemen you can get.
Exactly

Except Maurice isn't get laid off in the off season
So Maurice has to start taking care of his supporting cast or he's probably gonna lose his job
If he does nothing about his staff it's almost a guarantee the guy is gone after the '18 season

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Fire Maurice. Get a veteran goalie. Sign the best defencemen you can get.
So long as dumping Maurice gets rid of the assistants then this indeed does cover it adequately.

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So long as dumping Maurice gets rid of the assistants then this indeed does cover it adequately.
Cannot believe Chevy seems to be exempt from being criticized. The guy has never made a big trade, with the exception of when he was forced to.

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Cannot believe Chevy seems to be exempt from being criticized. The guy has never made a big trade, with the exception of when he was forced to.
True, but isn't Vegas kind of messing things up right now? To make any real moves?.

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True, but isn't Vegas kind of messing things up right now? To make any real moves?.
Yup. Chevy has two items on his must to do list with regards to to team personnel but both likely aren't able to be addressed until after the expansion draft. If he fails to do those he will criticised by many more on here.

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What gets us into the playoffs? Organizational accountability.

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Cannot believe Chevy seems to be exempt from being criticized. The guy has never made a big trade, with the exception of when he was forced to.
Well if you consider the quote I was referring to it would actually have Chevy doing three things:

Fire Maurice.
Acquire veteran goalie.
Acquire top four defense.

If he manages the bottom two of those I'll let him slide another year. I really do believe Maurice and most of his assistants (Huddy/Flaherty) should go (and believe those two should go even if he stays) but I don't honestly believe it will happen. And I will consider Chevy extending Maurice to be approaching the height of idiocy because of what he hasn't achieved thus far - he has a contract for next season, let him sit on the hot seat if you plan on keeping him. Our sole playoff appearance should be credited to the most hated of Jets - Pavelec; not Maurice because the team was a fringe wildcard bet that got in on an improbable run by a mediocre (at best) goaltender. That has nothing to do with Maurice. So he's achieved nothing of substance over his tenure.

Making a trade for the sake of making a trade doesn't do all that much for me. I'll give Chevy a sort of pass on this year (could have acquired a goaltender I'm sure during the season, XD be damned) because of the expansion draft. Everyone is sort of handcuffed. But trading to acquire a top four D man this season, while incredibly helpful would have meant that we'd have even more issues for the XD. And I really don't think Chevy could have foreseen Myers' family issues or Enstrom's for that matter. We really should have acquired D depth beyond Strait and have recognized that while Stu is a great guy he's not a great hockey player. But expansion draft.

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Trading Little for a first round pick is the exact opposite way of trying to get into the playoffs next year.


Fire Maurice. Get a veteran goalie. Sign the best defencemen you can get.
Looks like most of agree with this. Pretty simple, realistic moves imo.

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Trade Little?
Okay so now we have one centre and his faceoffs are less than 50/50

Signs of desperation

Teams got depth. Use that. Not your supporting cast. Not your centre who's your best two way centre and your best face off player



Exactly

Except Maurice isn't get laid off in the off season
So Maurice has to start taking care of his supporting cast or he's probably gonna lose his job
If he does nothing about his staff it's almost a guarantee the guy is gone after the '18 season
If we get to next US Thanksgiving and we are still doing the same idiotic things (roster and utilization), I will be organizing a march in front of the True North offices.

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Yup. Chevy has two items on his must to do list with regards to to team personnel but both likely aren't able to be addressed until after the expansion draft. If he fails to do those he will criticised by many more on here.
Yes. We all know what has to be done. He has to as well.

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Fire Maurice.
Acquire veteran goalie.
Acquire top four defense.

Our sole playoff appearance should be credited to the most hated of Jets - Pavelec; not Maurice because the team was a fringe wildcard bet that got in on an improbable run by a mediocre (at best) goaltender. That has nothing to do with Maurice. So he's achieved nothing of substance over his tenure.
I agree with this entirely. After 2 miserable seasons and increasing talent at his disposable, Maurice hasn't managed to show any signs of being able to coach a team to improvement let alone a top conference performance. We've actually dropped in a lot of areas as a team.

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Who replaces Maurice? Be specific.

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Trading Little for a first round pick is the exact opposite way of trying to get into the playoffs next year.


Fire Maurice. Get a veteran goalie. Sign the best defencemen you can get.
The scariest part of this most excellent post is that TSNE might sabotage next season if they hang on to Maurice.
Giving him until November as some suggest is a waste of time.
So this post is best ..... if we extend Maurice then Jets4Life's suggestion to include Chevy in the purge works for me .

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Despite me wanting to fire him after almost every game this year, I'm willing to give Maurice a few weeks next season. I like to believe these last 2 seasons have already cost him an extension that Chevy may have been considering (right or wrong). Maybe those days he was screaming at the players was around the time he knew this wasn't going to happen.

I just don't think Chevy is clueless enough to not fire Maurice if things start off poorly next season. I mean by this point the guy would have to improve the team overall and win our first playoff game to get a chance at another year - and probably have to have us in playoff position by US thanksgiving to even be allowed to finish the season. How Chevy handles the defence and goalie situation this offseason will help confirm if he's ever going to get the job done - if its a Brian Strait type "Hey guys look defence issue is solved" I don't know what to say.

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If we get to next US Thanksgiving and we are still doing the same idiotic things (roster and utilization), I will be organizing a march in front of the True North offices.
Count me in.

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Fire Maurice. Get a veteran goalie. Sign the best defencemen you can get.
This. So much this.

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What do the Jets need to do this offseason to become Top 3 in the Central?

Before I give you my thoughts on what I believe they need to accomplish I want to start by asking you for your off-season goals.

What I believe they need to do:
-----------------------------------
•Draft the most NHL ready player(Center or Defensman)
-I believe its Cody Glass(a realistic pick as well)

•Sign Karl Alzner

•Sign Scott Darling

•Trade Little(maybe a couple picks as well or Buff)for a 1st Round pick

•Get rid of Enstrom some how(before the Expansion)

•Pick up a couple Playoff Vets in FA

•Bring Conner, Roslovic and Poolman up

•Make sure Armia gets more ice time

•Make Helle and Comrie compete for NHL time

Lineup:
--------
Laine Scheifele Ehlers
Armia Glass Wheeler
Connor Roslovic Petan
Dano Lowry Perrault

Morrisey Trouba
Alzner Byfuglien
Poolman Myers

Darling
Hellebuyck/ Comrie
Don't like your list. Not even a little bit. That lineup is worse than the one we have now except possibly in goal.

I think if we give Maurice better players he will still find a way to miss the PO's much less finish top 3.

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