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01-26-2005, 05:53 PM
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Bouw most likely made the roster via the fan balloting for the starting lineup, because he certainly hasn't been San Antonio's best d-man this season.

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01-26-2005, 06:33 PM
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Head Coach: Claude Noel, Milwaukee
Assistant Coach: Todd Richards, Milwaukee
Athletic Trainer: Doug Agnew, Milwaukee
Equipment Manager: Dave Randolph, Milwaukee
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01-26-2005, 07:29 PM
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Good work Labarbera!
meh...again, i don't think much of this guy

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01-26-2005, 07:56 PM
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meh...again, i don't think much of this guy
He's just a product of a good system and defense.

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01-26-2005, 08:25 PM
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He's just a product of a good system and defense.
Fun style to watch he has though.

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01-26-2005, 08:26 PM
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Joey mcdonald? Thats bs. Without a doubt lenevue's been better.

As much as bouwmeester is my fav player, i was hoping he wouldn't make it and he'd realize it and kick his ass into gear.

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if the lockout is settled, a lot of these guys won't play anyway. it'll be a quick shuttle up to the NHL

Team Canada:

Forwards
Patrice Bergeron, Providence
x-Mike Cammalleri, Manchester

Simon Gamache, Milwaukee
Jason King, Manitoba
Chuck Kobasew, Lowell
Tom Kostopoulos, Manchester (inj.)
Yanick Lehoux, Manchester (inj.)
Joffrey Lupul, Cincinnati
x-Michel Ouellet, Wilkes-Barre/Scranton
Eric Perrin, Hershey
Patrick Sharp, Philadelphia
x-Jason Spezza, Binghamton
Eric Staal, Lowell

Kyle Wellwood, St. John's

Defensemen
Nolan Baumgartner, Manitoba
Jay Bouwmeester, San Antonio
Steve Eminger, Portland
Dan Hamhuis, Milwaukee

x-Lawrence Nycholat, Hartford
Travis Roche, Chicago
Brad Tiley, Milwaukee ("C")
x-Dennis Wideman, Worcester

Goaltenders
Mathieu Garon, Manchester
x-Jason LaBarbera, Hartford
Joey MacDonald, Grand Rapids

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01-26-2005, 09:35 PM
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What are people's thoughts on Wideman starting? It seems like he's really not been on anyone's radar, but it looks like he's legitimizing his junior numbers. I'm really glad the Blues were able to pick him up after Buffalo let him go.

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01-26-2005, 10:57 PM
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With no player named from Houston for the Canadian team....do you guys think Mikkko Koivu will be heading to the All-Star game for the Planet USA team??
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01-26-2005, 11:05 PM
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He's just a product of a good system and defense.
So your telling me Brodeur is nothing great? Martys got the best defense in the league in front of him with the best defensive system. (Though im not saying Labarbera is great..but i do think hes one of the best goalies in the AHL..also not comparing Labarbera with Brodeur)

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01-26-2005, 11:06 PM
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So your telling me Brodeur is nothing great? Martys got the best defense in the league in front of him with the best defensive system. (Though im not saying Labarbera is great..but i do think hes one of the best goalies in the AHL..also not comparing Labarbera with Brodeur)
uhhh Brodeur is a little different than LaBarbara.

Labarbara is a solid goalie. But there at least 10 goalies I'd rather have off the top of my head.

Just compare Valiquette's stats with Toronto to what they are now. His are even much better than LaBarbara's. Any half way decent goalie could play for Hartford and have amazing statistics.

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01-27-2005, 09:05 AM
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uhhh Brodeur is a little different than LaBarbara.

Labarbara is a solid goalie. But there at least 10 goalies I'd rather have off the top of my head.

Just compare Valiquette's stats with Toronto to what they are now. His are even much better than LaBarbara's. Any half way decent goalie could play for Hartford and have amazing statistics.
First, FLY made it clear that he wasn't comparing Brodeur to LaBarbara. However, the argument that you make that LaBarbara isn't that good because of the system could also be applied to Brodeur.

I don't care how good of a defense is in front of a goalie, he obviously has to have some talent to have a 1.90 GAA, a .929 save %age and 4 SOs.

Yes, Valiquette's numbers are better. However, he has played in 8 fewer games and typically plays against the weaker opponents.

Do I think that LaBarbara has what it takes to be an NHL netminder? No. However, he is a very good AHL goaltender (similar to Neil Little). You continue to totally discredit the guy. Somehow I think if he played for Rochester and put those numbers up, you would be whistling a different tune.


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01-28-2005, 11:20 AM
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Hey guys I'm just going to take a stab at the line up for the Canadian All star team now that the rosters has been named.

Line 1:
Mike Cammalleri......Jason Spezza......Michel Ouellet
Line 2:
Simon Gamache.....Kyle Wellwood.....Patrice Bergeron
Line 3:
Jason King...........Eric Staal...........Chuck Kobasew
Line 4:
Patrick Sharp......Eric Perrin..........Joffrey Lupul

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Hey guys I'm just going to take a stab at the line up for the Canadian All star team now that the rosters has been named.

Line 1:
Mike Cammalleri......Jason Spezza......Michel Ouellet
Line 2:
Simon Gamache.....Kyle Wellwood.....Patrice Bergeron
Line 3:
Jason King...........Eric Staal...........Chuck Kobasew
Line 4:
Patrick Sharp......Eric Perrin..........Joffrey Lupul
Your lines are as good as any. I don't know if they will keep the starters together for then entire game though. I wouldn't mind seeing Bergeron and Spezza on a line together with either Gamache or Cammalleri though.

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Your lines are as good as any. I don't know if they will keep the starters together for then entire game though. I wouldn't mind seeing Bergeron and Spezza on a line together with either Gamache or Cammalleri though.
Yah I know I only left them together beacuse they got named the starters. I would have moved Bergeron up with Spezz and Cammalleri.

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Would anyone replace Patrick Sharp with Corey Locke?

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Um.....ok
The coach and his staff of the team that wins the previous season's Calder Cup is automatically made the coaching staff of one of the two teams for the following year's AHL All-Star Classic.

So yeah... it's ok.

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01-28-2005, 02:21 PM
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First, FLY made it clear that he wasn't comparing Brodeur to LaBarbara. However, the argument that you make that LaBarbara isn't that good because of the system could also be applied to Brodeur.

I don't care how good of a defense is in front of a goalie, he obviously has to have some talent to have a 1.90 GAA, a .929 save %age and 4 SOs.

Yes, Valiquette's numbers are better. However, he has played in 8 fewer games and typically plays against the weaker opponents.

Do I think that LaBarbara has what it takes to be an NHL netminder? No. However, he is a very good AHL goaltender (similar to Neil Little). You continue to totally discredit the guy. Somehow I think if he played for Rochester and put those numbers up, you would be whistling a different tune.
I just think you're misunderstanding me. I think he's a fine goalie. But these delusional Hartford fans seem to think he's one of, if not the best, goalies in the league. It's just not true. Solid goalie, yes. One of the best ones in the league, not even close.

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01-28-2005, 02:52 PM
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I just think you're misunderstanding me. I think he's a fine goalie. But these delusional Hartford fans seem to think he's one of, if not the best, goalies in the league. It's just not true. Solid goalie, yes. One of the best ones in the league, not even close.
No, I don't think I am misunderstanding you. I just don't think you are giving him enough credit. I'm not from Hartford, nor are the people that voted him league MVP last season, and I think he is definitely one of the best AHL (key word is AHL, not potential NHLer) goalies. I don't care what defense a goalie is playing behind, a guy that puts up a 1.59 GAA and .936 save %age over 59 games obviously has to have a lot of talent.

This debate has nothing to do with potential, being a prospect, etc. I'm not saying that Jason LaBarbara is going to be a great NHL netminder because I don't think that he will. However, at the AHL level, he is definitely among the best. I compare him a lot to Neil Little. Neil Little is not an NHL prospect, but is also among the better AHL netminders as well.

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No, I don't think I am misunderstanding you. I just don't think you are giving him enough credit. I'm not from Hartford, nor are the people that voted him league MVP last season, and I think he is definitely one of the best AHL (key word is AHL, not potential NHLer) goalies. I don't care what defense a goalie is playing behind, a guy that puts up a 1.59 GAA and .936 save %age over 59 games obviously has to have a lot of talent.

This debate has nothing to do with potential, being a prospect, etc. I'm not saying that Jason LaBarbara is going to be a great NHL netminder because I don't think that he will. However, at the AHL level, he is definitely among the best. I compare him a lot to Neil Little. Neil Little is not an NHL prospect, but is also among the better AHL netminders as well.
I think you just like to argue with me. He's a good goalie, sure. But there is at least 7 or 8 goalies I'd rather have.

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01-28-2005, 03:27 PM
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I think you just like to argue with me. He's a good goalie, sure. But there is at least 7 or 8 goalies I'd rather have.
Can't argue that point!

7 or 8 goalies? Ok, let's agree, for arguments sake that he is the 9th best goalie in the AHL. Doesn't that then negate your comment "One of the best ones in the league, not even close."

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Can't argue that point!

7 or 8 goalies? Ok, let's agree, for arguments sake that he is the 9th best goalie in the AHL. Doesn't that then negate your comment "One of the best ones in the league, not even close."
That all depends on what I consider "close".

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That all depends on what I consider "close".
The 9th best goalie in the league isn't considered close to being the best of the league. With 28 teams, each team carries 2 netminders, so there are 56 goalies. Being 9th out of 56, IMO, is close to being the best.

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The 9th best goalie in the league isn't considered close to being the best of the league. With 28 teams, each team carries 2 netminders, so there are 56 goalies. Being 9th out of 56, IMO, is close to being the best.
How some people talk about him, it seems like it.

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