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09-08-2012, 06:52 PM
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Paul Stastny

I just feel his time with the Avalanche has come to an end. Oreilly/Duchene are their future at center, and they could nab a 3rd young center in return, plus a bit to bolster their depth.

Which teams do you think are in need of a center? Which teams have the best available assets to make a deal?

A team like Toronto could desperately use a player like Stastny.

Just off the cuff...

The center going back in the deal would likely be Bozak. The same age as Stasny and a capable 3rd liner. If the Avalanche aren't too high on him it would be between Kadri or Colbourne. Whoever they're higher on. Connolly wouldn't be too bad at a 3rd line role, filling in as a PP specialist, if they want to go that route and take on a bad contract (only 1 year left so no major risk) and grab more in the bottom end of the deal. The Leafs have a pretty deep prospect pool. Other than Gardiner/Reilly there aren't many standouts but tons of good prospects.

They need some offense on D, so Cody Franson would seem to fit the bill. I think prospects like Gardiner or Reilly have too much value for the Leafs to considering packaging with a younger center. You'd get into that territory if they took on Connolly.

I don't think Brian Burke would ever trade away his 1st again, so a 2nd rounder would likely be included. If the 1st rounder was included it would definitely be top 10 protected.

From there, I think a more developed prospect, on the verge of graduating (Frattin, Ashton) would be included to seal the deal.

So something like... (without considering the cap, the leafs are close iirc)

Bozak/Kadri or Colbourne
Franson
Frattin
2nd

For Paul Stastny?

Is that enough to get it done for the Avalanche? Or would they be more enticed by something like...

Connolly
Gardiner
Ashton
2nd?

Those seem a bit messy but they were rushed... Stastny has had declining numbers so maybe I'm overestimating his value. I've been just looking at the Avs and they have Sgarbossa on the way at C and I think they could lose Stasny to upgrade at other positions to be more successful.

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09-08-2012, 06:54 PM
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Not only do I agree the Avs don't need him anymore, I am willing to ship his overpriced contract out for less than what you've proposed, because there is no such thing as luxury in this league.

But you're right, the Avs prospects on defense just won't cut it offensively so we'll need Franson's 20 points to help bolster the blue line.

Bozak can put up similar production to Stastny and Franson can boost our team now and in the future.

Bozak + Franson for Stastny.

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09-08-2012, 06:57 PM
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Habs Will give 2firsts(2013,2014) a second in 2015

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Not only do I agree the Avs don't need him anymore, I am willing to ship his overpriced contract out for less than what you've proposed, because there is no such thing as luxury in this league.

But you're right, the Avs prospects on defense just won't cut it offensively so we'll need Franson's 20 points to help bolster the blue line.

Bozak can put up similar production to Stastny and Franson can boost our team now and in the future.

Bozak + Franson for Stastny.
Wow, you've really become jaded, haven't you.

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09-08-2012, 07:02 PM
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Not only do I agree the Avs don't need him anymore, I am willing to ship his overpriced contract out for less than what you've proposed, because there is no such thing as luxury in this league.

But you're right, the Avs prospects on defense just won't cut it offensively so we'll need Franson's 20 points to help bolster the blue line.

Bozak can put up similar production to Stastny and Franson can boost our team now and in the future.

Bozak + Franson for Stastny.
I was originally thinking this, with maybe a lower pick (3rd or 4th round) added in. Stasny might have declining numbers but he's only 26, and has a fairly healthy career. The Avs don't need to get rid of Stasny either. Having him, Oreilly and Duchene as your three centres far from terrible. So they're really only trading to upgrade immediately, or to significantly upgrade their pretty barren prospect pool.

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I'd love him on the Hawks, but being unsure of the CBA means he might thrust us back into cap hell.

Stalberg-Toews-Kane
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09-08-2012, 07:06 PM
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Habs Will give 2firsts(2013,2014) a second in 2015
Way too much! With scouting improving so much, and the Habs having one of the best in the league in Timmins, trading away their top two picks (especially after a year in which they finished last) is an awful idea.

The only way the Habs would trade for a Centre is if he was significantly better than Plekanec, to give them a good 1/2. Stastny is not. Eller is also on the upswing and could conceivably put up the 53 points Stastny did last year, or at least close to it.

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I'd love him on the Hawks, but being unsure of the CBA means he might thrust us back into cap hell.

Stalberg-Toews-Kane
Sharp-Stastny-Hossa

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What are Chicago giving up to fit that 6 million cap hit?

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I was originally thinking this, with maybe a lower pick (3rd or 4th round) added in. Stasny might have declining numbers but he's only 26, and has a fairly healthy career. The Avs don't need to get rid of Stasny either. Having him, Oreilly and Duchene as your three centres far from terrible. So they're really only trading to upgrade immediately, or to significantly upgrade their pretty barren prospect pool.


He was being sarcastic.

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He was being sarcastic.
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Anyone claiming that Stastny is expendable because Avs having Duchene and O'Reilly must have missed Duchene's 2011-2012 season. Stastny is more needed than ever to shield Duchene and allowing him to get back on track.

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Anyone claiming that Stastny is expendable because Avs having Duchene and O'Reilly must have missed Duchene's 2011-2012 season. Stastny is more needed than ever to shield Duchene and allowing him to get back on track.
Admittedly, I didn't watch too many Avs games. Didn't he play injured for almost the entire year? And with the exception of Oreilly and Landeskog there weren't too many highs for the Avalanche... I think Varalmov had an ok season, I can't remember.

Duchene has had more good seasons than bad ones, and is still an offensive threat. I don't think he's going to getting protected minutes for too long.

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I'd love to have stasny on the leafs! Calgary could be a bidder too.

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Stastny might be traded but it'll be next summer probably if so. The team has setup three scoring lines and will evaluate Stastny/Duchene after this upcoming (shortened) season. O'Reilly is realistically going nowhere, he's a lock to be on the team barring some external issues and/or extremely surprising and unrealistic on-ice results.

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What are Chicago giving up to fit that 6 million cap hit?
I guess I'd like to see what the cap is next year. We're around 62 mil right now and I'm not sure what the Avs would really be looking for other than 1st pairing Dmen.

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I guess I'd like to see what the cap is next year. We're around 62 mil right now and I'm not sure what the Avs would really be looking for other than 1st pairing Dmen.
Bozak.

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Not only do I agree the Avs don't need him anymore, I am willing to ship his overpriced contract out for less than what you've proposed, because there is no such thing as luxury in this league.

But you're right, the Avs prospects on defense just won't cut it offensively so we'll need Franson's 20 points to help bolster the blue line.

Bozak can put up similar production to Stastny and Franson can boost our team now and in the future.

Bozak + Franson for Stastny.
It's gotten a bit old.

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kessel + bozak + 2nd

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Stastny + Downie

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Why are you doing a Stastny to Toronto thread if you're a Habs fan?

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There have been numerous Stastny to Toronto proposals, almost all which are underpayment and involve Bozak.

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Newest, originalist thread I've ever seen

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