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10-22-2012, 06:50 AM
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I know that Rieder has been ripping it up for the past couple of seasons (this one and the last). Who does he play like and what is his ceiling for potential?
On the current Oilers, Eberele is the closest comparison. He doesn't use the tie drag dangle like Eberle, but both are opportunists. Like Eberle he can find space near the net and seems to be in the right place a lot. He does not have Eberle's shot at this point though. He is certianly a better skater than Eberle was at the same stage.

I honestly do not know what his upside is. He has skill and a great attitude. One problem for him in the Oiler organization though is that he is a left-handed RW. Sound familar?

BTW: Michigan Tech plays U Denver twice this weekend.


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BTW: Michigan Tech plays U Denver twice this weekend.
One stop shopping. It would be nice to get a stream of that game.

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On the current Oilers, Eberele is the closest comparison. He doesn't use the tie drag dangle like Eberle, but both are opportunists. Like Eberle he can find space near the net and seems to be in the right place a lot. He does not have Eberle's shot at this point though. He is certianly a better skater than Eberle was at the same stage.

I honestly do not know what his upside is. He has skill and a great attitude. One problem for him in the Oiler organization though is that he is a left-handed RW. Sound familar?

BTW: Michigan Tech plays U Denver twice this weekend.
By the time he's ready for the big show this might not be a problem. 2-3 years from now ?

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Yep, seems normal service has resumed after a slow start for Rieder.
I'm pretty sure the first 7 games for Kitchener were on the road this season. Probably has something to do with it.

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10-23-2012, 03:14 AM
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By the time he's ready for the big show this might not be a problem. 2-3 years from now ?
Even still, I think the best he can hope for is bottom 6 time with this team. Eberle and Yakupov should be here to stay.

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10-23-2012, 08:12 AM
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Even still, I think the best he can hope for is bottom 6 time with this team. Eberle and Yakupov should be here to stay.
If he develops fully he could be a very good 3rd line winger if he is paired with two more physical linemates. He is an excellent skater, a very good forechecker, an excellent pk'er and is basically solid in his own end. He does not mind getting dirty to score, but he is not going to be very physical. So the issue for me is can he beat out a guy like Pitlick for a spot on the third line when the qualities that Pitlick brings to the table are so needed.

If Reider is to make it on the Oilers, and he has a long way to go before that happens, I think he will need to be able to play the left side. And I honestly think he could because unlike a guy like Yakupov who would lose his one timer, Rieder's game is more like Eberle's so where he lines up on the draw is not so important.

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10-23-2012, 01:23 PM
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Even still, I think the best he can hope for is bottom 6 time with this team. Eberle and Yakupov should be here to stay.
I don't know why that didn't occur to me.

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oilers draft pick jeremie Blain has had a good start to his pro career albeit in the echl Idaho Steelheads i dont know whose affilate that is but 5 gp hes 2 g and 3 assists for 5 pts

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does anyone know much about kyle biggos is he prospect were planning on keeping in the system and developing or will he go unsigned his size and right handed shot are interesting

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10-23-2012, 02:53 PM
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does anyone know much about kyle biggos is he prospect were planning on keeping in the system and developing or will he go unsigned his size and right handed shot are interesting
Big, mean, decent enough skater, big slapper.

I'd say he has the tools to be a bottom pairing defenseman in the NHL, but we won't really get an idea of how good he is until he gets some games int he AHL, imo.

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10-23-2012, 03:13 PM
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oilers draft pick jeremie Blain has had a good start to his pro career albeit in the echl Idaho Steelheads i dont know whose affilate that is but 5 gp hes 2 g and 3 assists for 5 pts
The Oilers never signed him, due to an alleged incident where he was accused of making racist comments on the ice to an opposing player.

I always felt he was more talented than Brandon Davidson, a kid we picked in the same draft, and eventually signed.

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10-23-2012, 05:46 PM
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Big, mean, decent enough skater, big slapper.

I'd say he has the tools to be a bottom pairing defenseman in the NHL, but we won't really get an idea of how good he is until he gets some games int he AHL, imo.
I figure that we'll sign him to a 2 way deal and see what he's capable of at the pro level. He'll be 24 by the start of the '13-14 season so he'll have a limited time to show what he's got once he turns pro and will be on a 2 year ELC IIRC.

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oilers draft pick jeremie Blain has had a good start to his pro career albeit in the echl Idaho Steelheads i dont know whose affilate that is but 5 gp hes 2 g and 3 assists for 5 pts
I don't think Blain is oilers property anymore

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10-23-2012, 06:41 PM
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He's not and I can't say that that bothers me from what I've seen of him at the Oilers rookie camps and more importantly what he was suspended for doing in the Q.

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10-23-2012, 07:39 PM
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Unrelated. I'm going to the Rebels game tonight against Regina times like these being selfish I wish The nuge was there so I could watch him tear it up

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10-23-2012, 11:56 PM
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The Oilers never signed him, due to an alleged incident where he was accused of making racist comments on the ice to an opposing player.

I always felt he was more talented than Brandon Davidson, a kid we picked in the same draft, and eventually signed.
More talented in what aspect? I fail to see your point here. Davidson has looked silky smooth in Juniors for a couple years now whereas Bigos has slowly developed his dull skills around his jaw-dropping frame. In terms of size yes he was more talented, but in terms of playing style, Davidson is the much superior player here. Better skater, better shot, better breakout and passing ability as well as more poise and hockey sense to read the play defensively from what I've seen. Albeit that I haven't seen as much of Bigos but from what I have seen, it his size and strength that intrigues people. That and the hopes of his game developing into his frame.

FOR ANYONE THAT WANTS A USELESS COMPARISON OF BIGOS AND DAVIDSON. READ ABOVE!


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10-23-2012, 11:58 PM
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More talented in what aspect? I fail to see your point here. Davidson has looked silky smooth in Juniors for a couple years now whereas Bigos has slowly developed his dull skills around his jaw-dropping frame. In terms of size yes he was more talented, but in terms of playing style, Davidson is the much superior player here. Better skater, better shot, better breakout and passing ability as well as more poise and hockey sense to read the play defensively from what I've seen. Albeit that I haven't seen as much of Bigos but from what I have seen, it his size and strength that intrigues people. That and the hopes of his game developing into his frame.
He was making a comparison between Davidson and Blain, not Bigos.

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10-23-2012, 11:59 PM
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He's not and I can't say that that bothers me from what I've seen of him at the Oilers rookie camps and more importantly what he was suspended for doing in the Q.
I remember him looking awful and out of place at the Rookie camps. Looked okay on the offensive side of the puck but looked tardy both mentally and physically on the other side. Tardy as in slow, unaware or just not interested enough to understand.

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10-24-2012, 12:02 AM
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He was making a comparison between Davidson and Blain, not Bigos.
Thanks for the correction. That said, I'd fail to see how Blain would be more skilled than Davidson as well. Perhaps he may have showed more flash offensively at times in a less defensive league but Davidson is by far a much more competent and complete player.

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Davidson was also the captain for the Regina Pats, which is a pretty good sign of character. I'm glad they chose to keep him over Blaine, if it came down to one or the other.

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Davidson was also the captain for the Regina Pats, which is a pretty good sign of character. I'm glad they chose to keep him over Blaine, if it came down to one or the other.
Blaine was also the Captain for his team too from what I recall.

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Blaine was also the Captain for his team too from what I recall.
Just googled, you're right; he was.

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As expected, Tuohimaa is starting today since Kilpeläinen started yesterday(Jokerit won 1-0 versus the league leaders).

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As expected, Tuohimaa is starting today since Kilpeläinen started yesterday(Jokerit won 1-0 versus the league leaders).
And did very well. Allowed one goal on 23 shots in a 2-1 win.

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Davidson was also the captain for the Regina Pats, which is a pretty good sign of character. I'm glad they chose to keep him over Blaine, if it came down to one or the other.
I'm not saying that he isn't a good leader or has bad character but that's also the same team that had Colten Teubert as captain for two years over Jordan Eberle. Don't think stuff like that really matters in the long run, more of an indication that he likely won't be a potential problem not of his "leadership skills."

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