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08-12-2013, 11:03 AM
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Is MM A PowerForward And Is He Worth More Then 5mil?

For the last few seasons Milan Michalek has been an important piece of our line up and a top 3 player on our team. I'd like to establish what the general consensus is around MM. So is he a powerforward and is he worth more than 5mil to resign with us?

Edit: I'd make a poll but i dont know how
Also this is my first sens thread and i believe 500th or 500th and 1 post

Feel free to add what you'd classify him as and what you think is value would range between.


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No, Michalek is not a powerforward.

Yes, he is worth $5 000 000 to sign with us.

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No and no.

I wouldn't give him much more than what he's being payed right now, personally.

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08-12-2013, 11:08 AM
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He's worth 5 mil on the market if he can stay healthy and score 30. If I am him, I'm looking at the Clarkson contract and salivating.

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Not a power forward.

He is too injury prone to give anywhere near 5mill imo. If another team is willing to give him that as a ufa then I hope we don't match.

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If reports are to be believed that the cap is going to go up significantly then 5m seems about right, I'd sign him for sure but it's not my money.

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08-12-2013, 11:17 AM
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Michalek has as many career goals as Clarkson has career points. He gets that money easy, but possibly less term because of injury worries.

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People seriously need to get their head out of 2006.

The salary cap could eclipse $80 000 000 by the end of 2014-15.
The salary cap was $39 000 000 in 2005-06.

This would mean a $5 000 000 contract in two years will be equivalent to a $2 500 000 contract then. Michalek is absolutely worth $5 000 000/yr. Not $5 000 000/yr for 7 years mind you. If the Sens signed him for 4 years @20 million they'd be incredibly fortunate.

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he can get 5mill easily

big fast and drives the net

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Yes & yes although he may not be worth that to Ottawa considering his injury history. This is a contract yr for MM, he could be fairly valuable at the trade deadline for some team & would get a sizable return for him. However, if Ottawa is also in contention for a playoff spot I doubt BM move him & then they could lose him to FA for nothing.

If Michalek has a good yr & is willing to sign for around $5 mil for another few yrs (4 or 5 yrs) then why wouldn't BM sign him? He is only 28 yrs old & we already know he can be a game breaker & contribute offensively plus he has the size & strength to compete against the biggest & the best. He is a proven top 3 player on this team with NHL scoring & size who should be retained that can help this team challenge for the cup some day soon.

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People seriously need to get their head out of 2006.

The salary cap could eclipse $80 000 000 by the end of 2014-15.
The salary cap was $39 000 000 in 2005-06.

This would mean a $5 000 000 contract in two years will be equivalent to a $2 500 000 contract then. Michalek is absolutely worth $5 000 000/yr. Not $5 000 000/yr for 7 years mind you. If the Sens signed him for 4 years @20 million they'd be incredibly fortunate.
That's now how it works.

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That's now how it works.
Yes it is.

That's exactly how it works.

Double the cap, expect double the salaries. Player Cap / Cap = A beautiful percentage.

Percentage can be expected to stay relatively consistent.

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If he has a season like 11-12, he'll get over $5 mil. If he has a season like last year, he won't.

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How many players have, and are currently playing on the top line for their team, are paid less than $5M per season?

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Yes it is.

That's exactly how it works.

Double the cap, expect double the salaries. Player Cap / Cap = A beautiful percentage.

Percentage can be expected to stay relatively consistent.
What was the maximum salary on 2006?

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What was the maximum salary on 2006?
There will be a slight skew to the "less" side due to the fact that less teams will spend to the cap.

That being said, it's still realistically a multiplier of at least 1.75 from what it was in 2006.

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There will be a slight skew to the "less" side due to the fact that less teams will spend to the cap.

That being said, it's still realistically a multiplier of at least 1.75 from what it was in 2006.
Not exactly how it works then.

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Not exactly how it works then.
Cap goes up = GMs have more money to spend = GMs will pay more to get the player they want. That is how it works.

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if a broken old alfredsson is worth more then i guess so.

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Not exactly how it works then.


One of those semantics people eh?

Bottom line is people better get ready to see 2nd line players make 4-5 million, whereas they used to be 2-3 million players.

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If he scores 30-35 this year he will be asking for around 6.5 next summer as a UFA.

Look at what Clarkson got and MM is a better player.

Dude will get paid

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Not exactly how it works then.
Nothing is ever that simple, but the general idea definitely makes sense.

In the beginning only the big guys got top dollar, but their contracts have a max and there's only so many of these guys. So now as more money becomes available to spends the benefit is trickling down to the mid-range players - the guys who aren't bonafide stars are getting more and more money + term.

Michalek is a perfect example of a 2nd tier star, and based on what other guys have gotten of course he's worth 5 million.

The other guys who are benefiting are future/young stars on their post ELC contract.

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One of those semantics people eh?

Bottom line is people better get ready to see 2nd line players make 4-5 million, whereas they used to be 2-3 million players.
It's why Melnyk getting a casino so he will spend will be huge.

If this team is still a cap floor team when contracts come up, Sens will end up being the farm team if the NHL

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No and no. Comparing him to Clarkson is dumb. Completely different player.

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No and no. Comparing him to Clarkson is dumb. Completely different player.
Agreed MM is more valuable

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