Trade anybody not in the lineup for a Goalie (Kadri+Colborne+Liles or something).
Monahan would eventually move to #1 centre (if he pans out), while Biggs/Finn/Percy/2013 2nd would be coming up in the future as well. Rielly could be in the top pairing if he pans out as well.
yay! let's blow up and start again, thus repeating the never ending cycle of being crap.
yay! let's blow up and start again, thus repeating the never ending cycle of being crap.
A little dramatic there man.
Are you morning the loss off Connolly, Lombardi and Komisarek. How is this line up blowing it up?
This would be a pretty decent line up, given a lot pans out. This, with a legit goalie, would be an improvement. And we still have size and skill coming up the pipes. This could be close to what is assembled a few years down the road.
drafting high doesn't necessarily mean finishing low. Not a bad idea
A little dramatic there man.
Are you morning the loss off Connolly, Lombardi and Komisarek. How is this line up blowing it up?
This would be a pretty decent line up, given a lot pans out. This, with a legit goalie, would be an improvement. And we still have size and skill coming up the pipes. This could be close to what is assembled a few years down the road.
drafting high doesn't necessarily mean finishing low. Not a bad idea
It wasn't about any of those players, it was about flipping kadri, colborne and liles for a goalie that will negate the already gamble of a plan to just pick top 3 again. This plan makes no sense. If you want to pick top 3, let kadri and colborne play and get experience. My reaction was because its yet another way to interupt a proper rebuild and just make us and keep us mediocre.
At some point we have to go out and get a goalie. As much as I like Reimer for now, he doesn't seem like a solid long term option. Getting that goalie will take good assets on our part. I'm all for a proper rebuild, and that will include at some point, upgrading the goalie situation.
Picking high is possible without finishing low. It could be another teams pick. Washington netted an 11th overall last year with another teams pick. Good players fall every year. Boston drafted 2nd overall with our pick. We could find ourselves in a similar situation.
At some point we have to go out and get a goalie. As much as I like Reimer for now, he doesn't seem like a solid long term option. Getting that goalie will take good assets on our part. I'm all for a proper rebuild, and that will include at some point, upgrading the goalie situation.
Picking high is possible without finishing low. It could be another teams pick. Washington netted an 11th overall last year with another teams pick. Good players fall every year. Boston drafted 2nd overall with our pick. We could find ourselves in a similar situation.
What makes reimer less of an option than schnieder in Vancouver. It's funny how so many teams have been so successfull grooming there own goalies from they're own system yet everyone always wants to trade good prospects for another teams cast off
At some point we have to go out and get a goalie. As much as I like Reimer for now, he doesn't seem like a solid long term option. Getting that goalie will take good assets on our part. I'm all for a proper rebuild, and that will include at some point, upgrading the goalie situation.
Picking high is possible without finishing low. It could be another teams pick. Washington netted an 11th overall last year with another teams pick. Good players fall every year. Boston drafted 2nd overall with our pick. We could find ourselves in a similar situation.
Not sure why he isn't a viable long term solution for a rebuild.
A rebuild does include growing your own, and that would include growing your young goaltenders.
It isn't like any goaltender, well except 37 games of Reimer and 15 games of JSG, had a good run with the Wilson run and scramble system.
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using his big frame to create space and his skating ability to find open lanes to drive the net. He stands 6-3 and is a natural goal scorer with plenty of confidence.
He's a scout's dream in the way he prepares himself and plays an unselfish game, making smart decisions with the puck. With his bloodlines, he certainly understands what it will take to make it at the next level.
Another total revamp of our roster... (especially the forwards) I think this is a little too much change to work.... I'd make my own line-up, but I think there's too much unknown (If Gunnarson asks for too much $, if Kulemin rebounds, if JVR out-plays Lupul, how Rielly develops, etc.)
One thing for sure, is with Ross, Biggs, Frattin, Ashton, Kulemin, MacA (who I think will be traded), possibly Kadri, (1 of) JVR/Lupul.... We have a lot of 2nd and 3rd line wingers, some will have to be traded
I think we have some prospects who could eventually perform similarly to Clowe which is why I wouldn't want to trade Kadri for him. That would be too similar to the shortsighted moves we have done in the past which is why we are in the mess we are today. I'm okay trading Kadri, but I want it to be for a return of youth or for a drastic need of the team, ideally both. Clowe isn't that for us in my opinion.
I would be okay trading for Clowe, but I would want it to be done from some of our expendable players, not our highest rated forward prospect.
What are you talking about? How is that roster an example of "blowing" up?
Not the team, the long term plan. Burke didn't amass all that prospect talent just to bring it to the cusp of the nhl and trade them for short term fixes and a chance at a top 3 pick.. in my books that's a blow up.
Not the team, the long term plan. Burke didn't amass all that prospect talent just to bring it to the cusp of the nhl and trade them for short term fixes and a chance at a top 3 pick.. in my books that's a blow up.
I'm assuming a lottery pick since A) We might not get a season, leaving it to chance and B) Our roster as it is could get us a lottery pick anyways.
A goalie would not be a short-term fix. It is our #1 need.
I'm assuming a lottery pick since A) We might not get a season, leaving it to chance and B) Our roster as it is could get us a lottery pick anyways.
A goalie would not be a short-term fix. It is our #1 need.
I think a 1C is more important than a G since reimer is forsure getting another shot. Therefore trading 2 of our best C prospects and other prospects that we are developing over the last few years for a G that will only bring about a possible playoff spot is a huge step backwards in our teams development.
I think a 1C is more important than a G since reimer is forsure getting another shot. Therefore trading 2 of our best C prospects and other prospects that we are developing over the last few years for a G that will only bring about a possible playoff spot is a huge step backwards in our teams development.
Do we all remember when J.Quick was a stop gap until Bernier was ready?? I'm not saying that Reims is going to turn out like Quick (wouldn't that be great?), but for the love of Conn please guys have a little patience.
I think if we have Reimer as our starting goalie, it's because Burke couldn't get the right deal done. I'm sure he has something waiting on Luongo, and if his contract seems worse for the next CBA, he doesn't do it. But if he's stuck with Reimer, I don't think he's sweating it too much. We still have to see if the new goalie coach can turn things around.
Lupul-_____-Kessel (scoring line)
JVR-Colborne-Frattin (big grinding line with offence)
Ross-Kadri-Biggs (pest line with offence)
D'Amigo, Broll, Devane, Komorov, Ashton
Trade Chips:
Grabs, Kulemin, MacA, Bozak, Franson, Liles and any number of our 4th line/3rd pairing guys listed, and a whole bunch of prospects to get a #1 center and a goalie if needed.
Lupul-_____-Kessel (scoring line)
JVR-Colborne-Frattin (big grinding line with offence)
Ross-Kadri-Biggs (pest line with offence)
D'Amigo, Broll, Devane, Komorov, Ashton
Trade Chips:
Grabs, Kulemin, MacA, Bozak, Franson, Liles and any number of our 4th line/3rd pairing guys listed, and a whole bunch of prospects to get a #1 center and a goalie if needed.
