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09-17-2012, 09:04 AM
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D Visnovsky to Slovan Bratislava, confirmed by club

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09-17-2012, 10:04 AM
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His name is Семён. I'm sure you can figure it out from there.
So his passport would say Semen...



Infuriating.

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Used by IIHF, and everyone named Semyon since Varlamov pointed it out to NHL. This is no misspeling, it makes you pronounce Russian surnames with "" in it properly. Just because to English speaking folks "" looks like "e", doesn't make it a correct translation. I wonder why Russian "c", for example, isn't conversed to English "c"? Hey, they look the same...

Varlamov pointed it out to the NHL because 'semen' was embarrassing...

The most correct, and former official system would be 'ye' if followed by a vowel. For the most part, this is what Russians use, and the KHL uses (for example, you'll never see Alyoksyoi Kovalyov in place of Alexei Kovalev). Though, the KHL mixes it up and is inconsistent from what I've seen, only using 'yo' in the rare instance of a in a persons name (not normal e's, like the IIHF does)

At the end of the day there are a few official correct translations, and none of them use 'yo', save for the IIHF which only started this madness this year, making reading names confusing as hell by using a different system than the NHL and KHL - the one the world is used to.


But enough with this, I'm done venting.


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What language do people talk in Ukraine if they can't understand letter ё?

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09-17-2012, 10:24 AM
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What language do people talk in Ukraine if they can't understand letter ё?
I think Sokil is from North America.)

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What language do people talk in Ukraine if they can't understand letter ё?
...Ukrainian?

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09-17-2012, 10:31 AM
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At the end of the day there are a few official correct translations, and none of them use 'yo', save for the IIHF which only started this madness this year, making reading names confusing as hell by using a different system than the NHL and KHL - the one the world is used to.
The German Wikipedia has been using this "madness" for ages (the spelling is "jo" instead of "yo" in German though).

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So his passport would say Semen...
Heh, let me help you.)
Letter ё is rare in Russian language. And every Russian-speaker knows exactly when it is used. So, almost always people don't use two dots above e. "Семён"="Семен". Every Russian understands it. But, in translation to Latin letters Semen is funny, so Varlamov changed it to Semyon. Kovalev, Fedorov, Semin don't care, even if Semin also sounds funny.

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09-17-2012, 10:39 AM
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The German Wikipedia has been using this "madness" for ages (the spelling is "jo" instead of "yo" in German though).
German isn't English, they have their own system. Ya is Ja, X is CH, V's turn to W's and whatnot.

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Heh, let me help you.)
Letter ё is rare in Russian language. And every Russian-speaker knows exactly when it is used. So, almost always people don't use two dots above e. "Семён"="Семен". Every Russian understands it. But, in translation to Latin letters Semen is funny, so Varlamov changed it to Semyon. Kovalev, Fedorov, Semin don't care, even if Semin also sounds funny.
Kovalev went out of his way to keep it 'Kovalev' in the KHL

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09-17-2012, 12:16 PM
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Any rumblings about Niklas Kronwall joining his brother in Yaroslavl? I've seen it mentioned a few times he is looking to Russia or maybe lower level Swedish club.

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09-17-2012, 01:22 PM
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Any rumblings about Niklas Kronwall joining his brother in Yaroslavl? I've seen it mentioned a few times he is looking to Russia or maybe lower level Swedish club.
Loko stated they won't sign any NHL players

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09-17-2012, 01:58 PM
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Kovalev went out of his way to keep it 'Kovalev' in the KHL
There aren't a lot of yovs in the KHL at all. I'm having a hard time finding any.

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09-17-2012, 03:33 PM
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Let's see: Andrei Mukhachyov, Maxim Mayorov, Dmitri Kosmachyov, Maxim Semyonov, Dmitri Syomin, Yevgeni Nogachyov, Andrei Mikhalyov, Maxim Solovyov, Denis Mosalyov, Yevgeni Korolyov, Maxim Trunyov and so on. And you had hard time finding any?

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09-18-2012, 02:55 AM
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Artem Anisimov is close to signing with Lokomotiv, according to The Columbus Dispatch.

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NIKLAS BACKSTROM have a mutual agreement with Dinamo Minks, that he will play there during a lockout.

http://hcdinamo.by/niklas-bekstrem-v-dinamo-minsk/

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09-18-2012, 07:50 AM
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championat.com reports that Semyon Varlamov will join lokomotiv in the next days

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09-18-2012, 08:03 AM
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Wow these are huge signings. Varlamov's is kind of expected but Backstrom to Minsk is truly quite a suprise.

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09-18-2012, 08:10 AM
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maxim mayorov, and you had hard time finding any?
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09-18-2012, 08:12 AM
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Wow these are huge signings. Varlamov's is kind of expected but Backstrom to Minsk is truly quite a suprise.
his youth finnish coach works for Dynamo Minsk. Maybe it is a reason?

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09-18-2012, 08:14 AM
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Tarasenko wants to join Sibir, but needs a permission of SKA

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(for example, you'll never see Alyoksyoi Kovalyov in place of Alexei Kovalev)
How did you came up with that one? There's no "dotted e" in his name. As with older players like Kovalev, I fully understand their unwilingness to mess with the name they have established and I'm fine with it. But if we can fix something just by substituting couple of letters, we should totally do it.

I don't know I find it kinda disrespectful, that we are continuing to butcher Russian surnames, when the correct versions are just as simple to pronounce as the incorrect ones.

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09-18-2012, 08:30 AM
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pictures of the kovalchuk signing:
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...5#post54419055

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09-18-2012, 08:50 AM
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Kulikov to Lokomotiv (Sport-Express)

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09-18-2012, 09:01 AM
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Kulikov to Lokomotiv (Sport-Express)
if true, so whole season. Has no NHL contract

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Anisimov (23) / Varlamov (23) / Kulikov (21) in one team, that would be so awesome.

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