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09-13-2012, 06:46 AM
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Tyson Barrie to Montreal

Tyson Barrie is a very good young offensive defenseman, who has the upside to be a top 3 guy and powerplay quarterback. I know Montreal already has one pure offensive guy in Beaulieu, but the possibility of adding a 2nd one was intriguing.

What would it take from Montreal to land Barrie in La Belle Province?

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09-13-2012, 07:28 AM
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Tyson Barrie is a very good young offensive defenseman, who has the upside to be a top 3 guy and powerplay quarterback. I know Montreal already has one pure offensive guy in Beaulieu, but the possibility of adding a 2nd one was intriguing.

What would it take from Montreal to land Barrie in La Belle Province?
Too small, and besides if he has such high predictions why exactly is Colorado not keeping him ?

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Tyson Barrie is a very good young offensive defenseman, who has the upside to be a top 3 guy and powerplay quarterback. I know Montreal already has one pure offensive guy in Beaulieu, but the possibility of adding a 2nd one was intriguing.

What would it take from Montreal to land Barrie in La Belle Province?
LOL. I love La belle Province, tasty poutine . For Tyson, you'll probably have to overpay to be honest. The Avs don't have the greatest defensive prospects.

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LOL. I love La belle Province, tasty poutine . For Tyson, you'll probably have to overpay to be honest. The Avs don't have the greatest defensive prospects.

wow shocking!!!

I am wondering if there has ever been a thread on the trade forums where this term was not used....my guess is no....

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09-13-2012, 07:59 AM
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I don't think there needs to be an overpayment for Barrie if the correct piece is coming back.
It is always tough with prospects, but I'd say a trade with Barrie for a winger prospect of same caliber could work.
But I doubt the Avs are trading him now as I think they want to see him in the NHL for more than 10 games before making a decision on him (although their defense has 7 one-way contracts so he must impress at camp or wait for injuries to happen).

I would be ready to trade him for a winger prospect coming back, but I'm not familiar enough with the Canadiens prospects at all to make any sort of decision about that.

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Barrie is a fine prospect in his niche, but it's probably the niche that the Habs have the least need to fill. So right off the bat, that puts Barrie's value lower to the Habs than it would likely be just about anywhere else. Habs have Subban, Diaz, Weber, with Beaulieu (hopefully) on the way, so there is no need to add Barrie to the mix. Habs need more physical defenders, or scoring forwards, or a bluechip goalie prospect all much more than a smaller PMD.

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I don't think there needs to be an overpayment for Barrie if the correct piece is coming back.
It is always tough with prospects, but I'd say a trade with Barrie for a winger prospect of same caliber could work.
But I doubt the Avs are trading him now as I think they want to see him in the NHL for more than 10 games before making a decision on him (although their defense has 7 one-way contracts so he must impress at camp or wait for injuries to happen).

I would be ready to trade him for a winger prospect coming back, but I'm not familiar enough with the Canadiens prospects at all to make any sort of decision about that.
I doubt that very much. We're not going to get a potential 30 goal scoring first line winger for Barrie, but we don't need anymore top 6-9 wingers the way we do defensemen that can play on the top two pairings.

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Just asking because I'm a bit clueless to what Montreal actually needs. From last year the team has a great young core that will only get better when their prospects get to the show. The only thing I thought Montreal needed was to get rid of the horrible contracts they have with 3-4 players. Forwards at the moment is also a must in my opinion.

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Probably Bozon or Thrower, but seeing as our scouts passed on Thrower for Heard I'm not sure they would do that even with the Blades affiliation. Maybe Collberg.

I doubt Barrie's singular value gets us anything useful that we currently need in the NHL, so assuming the higher ups wanted one of your prospects I'm guessing the closest value being amongst those three.

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I don't think the Avs can afford to trade a potential top 3 PPQB unless there's a genuine one coming back.

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Hmmm, why do we trade for a small-soft-pmd...?

We don't need Barrie.

We already have awesome Dmans. Beaulieu, Thrower, Bennet, Dietz and Pateryn all fit the bill of offensive dman. Even Ellis has some offense in him. What's the + to all them? Size or grit. (Or both!)

We need big nasty dmans, Big nasty wingers and big nasty center.
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Hmmm, why do we trade for a small-soft-pmd...?

We don't need Barrie.

We already have awesome Dmans. Beaulieu, Thrower, Bennet, Dietz and Pateryn all fit the bill of offensive dman. Even Ellis has some offense in him. What's the + to all them? Size or grit. (Or both!)

We need big nasty dmans, Big nasty wingers and big nasty center.
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So Montreal is not in the trading market. Looks like you can get all your needs in free agency. If I were Montreal I would seriously be looking for a scoring forward prospect. I just see the same issue that was hurting Montreal last season which was scoring and solid defense. Scoring would be the top of my to do list.

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So Montreal is not in the trading market. Looks like you can get all your needs in free agency. If I were Montreal I would seriously be looking for a scoring forward prospect. I just see the same issue that was hurting Montreal last season which was scoring and solid defense. Scoring would be the top of my to do list.
Scoring on the wing is good.

We have patches, Cole, Bourque, Gionta all capable of +/- 30.

It's down the middle we need more scoring.

The defense though... We need P.K. to regain his form on the PP (Then u can add a 15 goal dman.) and we need a shutdown dman. That's our immediate need.

In our propsect pool we need big wingers and Big centers. We're lacking size. The center should be around Collberg's quality (8.0 C) and the winger should be of Gally's quality(or a little less 8.5C sounds right.) and we could use another blue chip dman.

So we need to draft a big C in the 2nd and a dman or a winger in the first.

Best case scenario we end up with something like

8.5C winger(1st) 8.0C center/8.0C D/7.5C G(2nd rounder.)

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Barrie is a fine prospect in his niche, but it's probably the niche that the Habs have the least need to fill. So right off the bat, that puts Barrie's value lower to the Habs than it would likely be just about anywhere else. Habs have Subban, Diaz, Weber, with Beaulieu (hopefully) on the way, so there is no need to add Barrie to the mix. Habs need more physical defenders, or scoring forwards, or a bluechip goalie prospect all much more than a smaller PMD.
Why do they need a bluechip goalie prospect , when they have Price in his early 20s locked up long term?

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Scoring on the wing is good.

We have patches, Cole, Bourque, Gionta all capable of +/- 30.

It's down the middle we need more scoring.

The defense though... We need P.K. to regain his form on the PP (Then u can add a 15 goal dman.) and we need a shutdown dman. That's our immediate need.

In our propsect pool we need big wingers and Big centers. We're lacking size. The center should be around Collberg's quality (8.0 C) and the winger should be of Gally's quality(or a little less 8.5C sounds right.) and we could use another blue chip dman.

So we need to draft a big C in the 2nd and a dman or a winger in the first.

Best case scenario we end up with something like

8.5C winger(1st) 8.0C center/8.0C D/7.5C G(2nd rounder.)
I watched the Montreal Canadians a lot last season. I agree they need bigger forwards to play against the Rangers, Flyers, and Boston. I think signing Prust was a good start to protect them from getting their stat players injured. Maybe adding another enforcer will be a good idea for the fourth line.


The thing that I fear is that they are counting on everyone being healthy throughout the year. The past two season that hasn't been the case. The Center position I feel they have it covered with Eller and Leblanc waiting for a shot in the top 6. What I really would like is if they get someone that is able to score. Montreal is stacked with good puck moving defensemen at the moment. Would be great if they can trade Beaulieu.

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Why do they need a bluechip goalie prospect , when they have Price in his early 20s locked up long term?
They need one because every team needs one and they don't have one. It's not a severe or immediate need, but it's a need. Price is only signed for 6 years. A lot can happen in 6 years. But it takes that long to develop a starting goalie too. 2-4 years after the draft in junior/college, 2-4 more years in the minors, 2 or more years as a backup... it's a long-term process, and right now the Habs have no serious prospects at all in net. Habs should draft/sign 2 prospect goalies within the next year. Don't need to trade for them. But do need to re-stock the system.

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Hmmm, why do we trade for a small-soft-pmd...?

We don't need Barrie.

We already have awesome Dmans. Beaulieu, Thrower, Bennet, Dietz and Pateryn all fit the bill of offensive dman. Even Ellis has some offense in him. What's the + to all them? Size or grit. (Or both!)

We need big nasty dmans, Big nasty wingers and big nasty center.
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Soft? What are you talking about?

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Soft? What are you talking about?
He's Barrie-soft, what are you talking about?

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Why does Mtl need Barrie or Elliott when they have Tinordi, Subban, Beaulieu, Weber, and Diaz?

I think Barrie would be along the lines of Bealieu, above Weber/Diaz and below Subban.

Avs D needs tonnes of work outside of EJohnson and maybe ROB. Wilson is a concussion question mark and Hejda isn't young so Siemens/Barrie/Elliott/Gaunce shouldn't be traded.

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Why does Mtl need Barrie or Elliott when they have Tinordi, Subban, Beaulieu, Weber, and Diaz?

I think Barrie would be along the lines of Bealieu, above Weber/Diaz and below Subban.

Avs D needs tonnes of work outside of EJohnson and maybe ROB. Wilson is a concussion question mark and Hejda isn't young so Siemens/Barrie/Elliott/Gaunce shouldn't be traded.
Thrower and Ellis, too.

Not that Barrie, or Elliott aren't good prospects, but why does Montreal have to acquire all the defensive prospects ?

We have 4 picks in the top 60 in this up coming draft. I'm sure 1 will be another defenseman.

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LOL. I love La belle Province, tasty poutine . For Tyson, you'll probably have to overpay to be honest. The Avs don't have the greatest defensive prospects.
Of course over pay because this is HF boards and every prospect is worth more than how he is.

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They need one because every team needs one and they don't have one. It's not a severe or immediate need, but it's a need. Price is only signed for 6 years. A lot can happen in 6 years. But it takes that long to develop a starting goalie too. 2-4 years after the draft in junior/college, 2-4 more years in the minors, 2 or more years as a backup... it's a long-term process, and right now the Habs have no serious prospects at all in net. Habs should draft/sign 2 prospect goalies within the next year. Don't need to trade for them. But do need to re-stock the system.
That says to me that 2013 would be a good year to draft a goaltender or two, not that that should be suggested as part of a trade. Folks around here get... strange with suggestions like that.

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I'd trade him for a defensive defenseman prospect.

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I watched the Montreal Canadians a lot last season. I agree they need bigger forwards to play against the Rangers, Flyers, and Boston. I think signing Prust was a good start to protect them from getting their stat players injured. Maybe adding another enforcer will be a good idea for the fourth line.


The thing that I fear is that they are counting on everyone being healthy throughout the year. The past two season that hasn't been the case. The Center position I feel they have it covered with Eller and Leblanc waiting for a shot in the top 6. What I really would like is if they get someone that is able to score. Montreal is stacked with good puck moving defensemen at the moment. Would be great if they can trade Beaulieu.
No need for Barrie and it would be a terrible move to trade Beaulieu unless some team wants to overpay and offers a top line forward.
You've been trying to get the Habs to move Beaulieu [ for spare parts ]
in a few different threads.Get over it, he,s not moving.

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