This guy has underperformed for a 2nd overall selection.
Is he a bust or will he pick it up sooner or later?
Underperformed by what account? He's been up there in points for us...even if it's primarily assists..and he's scoring as many goals as any center on the team, usually more. Factor in that he's a terrific defensive forward...he's far from a "bust"
Nice job checking the b-day. I just see a lot more players in that years draft that I would of taken ahead of him. He was labeled as a franchise player before. And no, I hate Rick Nash.
lemme guess you're one of those 15 year old Rick Nash fans, thinking its all about scoring goals, with no regard to how well you play in your own end
shady...that's the thing. You'd have to know a lot more about the predators system to understand. Legwand..if there's a knock on him...can go through uninspired periods..but believe me..the talent is there. It's almost as if it's wasted on our team and our system..but I'm thinking on a team with a more wide open system...say...Edmonton or Phoenix...Legwand could and would hit 30 goals, easily. He's scary talented, but I think he's having problems with his role as a "defensive specialist"
the knock on Legwand is that he plays with no heart. Now, i'd say that it's about 65-35 heart vs. no heart for his play. If he can make it 100% heart, or even 95% heart, he'd be a hell of a player.
the knock on Legwand is that he plays with no heart. Now, i'd say that it's about 65-35 heart vs. no heart for his play. If he can make it 100% heart, or even 95% heart, he'd be a hell of a player.
The no heart thing is a joke. How can you be a great defensive player, a great backchecker and player with now heart?
He doesn't always play with confidence in the offensive zone, passes up too many scoring chances but to say he's a great defensive player that plays with no heart is a joke.
The no heart thing is a joke. How can you be a great defensive player, a great backchecker and player with now heart?
He doesn't always play with confidence in the offensive zone, passes up too many scoring chances but to say he's a great defensive player that plays with no heart is a joke.
I think he's referring to that whenever Legwand gets in tight spaces in the offensive zone, he doesn't have a chance to get his shot off
the "no heart" argument is generally made by people who don't like him for various other reasons...they think he's cocky, their girlfriends think he's good looking, they hear other people saying it. it's become almost a cliche, and it was generally the fans who were taking in some of their first hockey games that I'd hear saying it. As Trig pointed out, Legwand simply does too many other things well to be playing with "no heart." Jonesey...you, admittedly, bear a grudge towards Legwand and always have...so maybe you're a bit biased in stating that he has "no heart?"
The no heart thing is a joke. How can you be a great defensive player, a great backchecker and player with now heart?
He doesn't always play with confidence in the offensive zone, passes up too many scoring chances but to say he's a great defensive player that plays with no heart is a joke.
100% agree. He suffers the same fate as Marleau. Creative players in their junior days brought into systems where that creativity needs to turn into two-way hockey. Had they played in the 80s, these guys would be scoring wizards but todays NHL isn't the same. I see both these guys bustin ass, especially on their side of the ice with an occassional moment of the creavity that had them so highly touted as kids. I think they are just victim of trying too hard in their defensive responsiblities. Given a little free reign, no doubts that either player could be a perrenial 30 goal scorer.
The no heart thing is a joke. How can you be a great defensive player, a great backchecker and player with now heart?
He doesn't always play with confidence in the offensive zone, passes up too many scoring chances but to say he's a great defensive player that plays with no heart is a joke.
It's good to see that those with an objective take recognize things for what they are. Legwand-bashing is usually reduced to the argument, "well, it doesn't seem like he tries very hard" or in the case of one person I know...Legwand was at some party and hit on his girlfriend. How that translates to Legwand's on-ice performance, I'll never know.
It's good to see that those with an objective take recognize things for what they are. Legwand-bashing is usually reduced to the argument, "well, it doesn't seem like he tries very hard" or in the case of one person I know...Legwand was at some party and hit on his girlfriend. How that translates to Legwand's on-ice performance, I'll never know.
I'm not going to say he doesn't have heart because, as has been mentioned, it doesn't jive well with his behavior in the defensive and neutral zone. However, his play in the offensive zone often lacks fire and passion. It's not a lack of heart, but a lack of gumption. He doesn't muck it up, use his size, or put himself in punishing positions to make plays. It's as if he doesn't have the confidence in his offensive game AND size to drive in deep and use his body to help create offensive chances. Maybe some added strength training will build that confidence. That combined with a more stout defense might give Trotz the desire to unleash Leggy in the offensive zone. I'm not asking for him to play like Hartnell, but he's just too much of a perimeter player right now. To reach his full potential, he's going to have to learn that he's 6'2", around 200 pounds, and not Cliff Ronning.
I'm not going to say he doesn't have heart because, as has been mentioned, it doesn't jive well with his behavior in the defensive and neutral zone. However, his play in the offensive zone often lacks fire and passion. It's not a lack of heart, but a lack of gumption. He doesn't muck it up, use his size, or put himself in punishing positions to make plays. It's as if he doesn't have the confidence in his offensive game AND size to drive in deep and use his body to help create offensive chances. Maybe some added strength training will build that confidence. That combined with a more stout defense might give Trotz the desire to unleash Leggy in the offensive zone. I'm not asking for him to play like Hartnell, but he's just too much of a perimeter player right now. To reach his full potential, he's going to have to learn that he's 6'2", around 200 pounds, and not Cliff Ronning.
I wonder if he has ever recovered mentally-wise from the hit that took himself out of the rest of the year in the Chicago game a couple of March's ago? ... that could have something to do with it?
I wonder if he has ever recovered mentally-wise from the hit that took himself out of the rest of the year in the Chicago game a couple of March's ago? ... that could have something to do with it?
It could be that. It could be his lack of confidence in his strength. It could be Trotz' system which probably makes young centers rather tentative in the offensive zone (don't want to get caught up ice).
It's good to see that those with an objective take recognize things for what they are. Legwand-bashing is usually reduced to the argument, "well, it doesn't seem like he tries very hard" or in the case of one person I know...Legwand was at some party and hit on his girlfriend. How that translates to Legwand's on-ice performance, I'll never know.
You obviously don't read my posts, as I have gone into great detail on why I'm not on high Legwand as an impact player in this league. Do you need me to re-hash?
Pro-Legwand-is-an-impact-player statements are usually reduced to "oh, he's a good backchecker, therefore he is the hardest woker on the team" and "he has good playmaking abilities" and "he has great potential" and "Trotz is holding him back". Pro-Legwand-is-an-impact-player posts are predictable and so generalized that it doens't mean anything (i.e. "he has scary skills").
Meanwhile, Lewgand contines to give the puck away more than any player on the team, he's one of the worst players in traffic on the team, he's about as effective as cotton candy when he's on the the boards, he's one of the weakest players on the team, he can't make things happen in the offensive zone unless he has oodles of space, etc, etc, etc.
Preach it brother!!!!!!!!!!
