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12-28-2012, 09:19 AM
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12-28-2012, 09:35 AM
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I'm just hopeful that it's the Caps that are picked by the NHL to aid with whatever farce of a fixed draft they have after the missed season.

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12-28-2012, 09:57 AM
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so if there is a buyout teams are allowed which is proposed in new CBA offer what are the chances cheap ted buys out Ovechkin
I hope we buy out Brouwer.

It'll probably be Poti though.

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12-28-2012, 10:04 AM
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It's more likely to be Schultz or Ward as Poti can just be LTIR'd in his final season. It's the contracts that go into next season that will be targeted.

Zero chance it's Ovechkin. That's not a net winner.

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12-28-2012, 10:05 AM
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so if there is a buyout teams are allowed which is proposed in new CBA offer what are the chances cheap ted buys out Ovechkin
0. Regardless of what the buyout percentage is with as much money as is left on his contract there is no way Leonsis decides it makes more sense to give him that percentage to not play for the Caps as opposed to all of it to play.

For the Caps Ward makes the most sense IMO but I don't think Leonsis allows that because of the term left on that deal and thus the total amount of money that would need to go into the buyout. I bet they buyout Hamrlik, LTIR Poti, and go with that as it is under the $60 mil cap.

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12-28-2012, 10:09 AM
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I'm just hopeful that it's the Caps that are picked by the NHL to aid with whatever farce of a fixed draft they have after the missed season.
Never going to happen. Find an organization that needs a new young star to help secure their future in their current market. I bet it ends up New Jersey in an effort to help sell that team.

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12-28-2012, 10:17 AM
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With the damage done by the lockout does anyone think the cap next year can be anywhere close to the $60 mil it is supposedly going to be this year?

I wouldn't be shocked if it came in closer to $50 mil than $60 mil. Currently the Caps have almost $45 mil in cap space committed to 12 players for next season.

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12-28-2012, 10:27 AM
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With the damage done by the lockout does anyone think the cap next year can be anywhere close to the $60 mil it is supposedly going to be this year?

I wouldn't be shocked if it came in closer to $50 mil than $60 mil. Currently the Caps have almost $45 mil in cap space committed to 12 players for next season.
It's next year that's supposed to be $60M or else half the teams in the league would have to scramble to get under. That's a figure the league is said to be offering without any tie to revenue brought in under a condensed schedule this year. If there's a further crunch it would be via escrow or potentially another dip in two years if that year's cap is based off of linkage.

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12-28-2012, 10:29 AM
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Gotcha, thanks.

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12-28-2012, 10:40 AM
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The buy out would be expensive, they still have to pay Ovechkin his money.

I'd imagine there is protection against teams doing that and then paying the player cheap money and getting the lower salary cap hit too.

The risk of Ovechkin getting bought out and signing cheap within the Eastern conference isn't worth it.

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12-28-2012, 11:22 AM
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buying out ward and brouwer would be awful. both of those are on team-friendly deals. being misused last season by hunter isn't a knock against them.

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12-28-2012, 11:23 AM
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buying out ward and brouwer would be awful. both of those are on team-friendly deals. being misused last season by hunter isn't a knock against them.
Brouwer isn't a team friendly player though. Get that assclown off the team.

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12-28-2012, 11:25 AM
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How on Earth is Ward's a team-friendly deal?

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The Caps don't really have any terrible, cap-strapping contracts.

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12-28-2012, 11:51 AM
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Because of the Boston goal.

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12-28-2012, 12:29 PM
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The Caps don't really have any terrible, cap-strapping contracts.
Except Ovechkin.

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12-28-2012, 12:35 PM
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Because of the Boston goal.
Really because of how he played in the playoffs, scoring or not. Hopefully it wouldn't be him. Schultz is an obvious candidate, although his contract isn't really that big.

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12-28-2012, 12:44 PM
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Details of the league's offer. Waiver-exemption for in-season signing of club's own European players is an interesting little provision. As is expanding the lottery.

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Details of the league's offer. Waiver-exemption for in-season signing of club's own European players is an interesting little provision. As is expanding the lottery.
Wait so they couldn't do that with Europeans before, because I know several NCAA prospects over the years have signed in April and played in the playoffs.

This is good though, because we could possibly see Kuznetsov in the end of the season/playoffs next year because the KHL contracts go through April 3rd, would really help because he would really only be a 1 year under that contract and help us get him over here.

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12-28-2012, 02:22 PM
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Really because of how he played in the playoffs, scoring or not. Hopefully it wouldn't be him. Schultz is an obvious candidate, although his contract isn't really that big.
For any other non-assclown of a coach, he's getting like 4 minutes a game in the playoffs.

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12-28-2012, 03:15 PM
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For any other non-assclown of a coach, he's getting like 4 minutes a game in the playoffs.
What? He deserved much more ice time than he got.

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12-28-2012, 03:30 PM
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What? He deserved much more ice time than he got.
I disagree with the on-ice tactics of one Dale Lawrence Hunter.

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Details of the league's offer. Waiver-exemption for in-season signing of club's own European players is an interesting little provision. As is expanding the lottery.
Dig both of those. Will be interesting to see the details of the lottery. Hope it is basically just one lottery for the #1 slot for all the non-playoff teams so basically if you get jumped over it is just down one slot. Hate the NBA one.

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12-29-2012, 04:37 PM
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Brouwer isn't a team friendly player though. Get that assclown off the team.
brouwer has shown a skillset which is always somewhat undervalued. he can play on virtually any line. he is not a great stickhandler or somewhat who creates by himself, but he can effectively backup virtually any play and contribute on points. of course, his totals are a little inflated from being on a historically good offensive team in chicago, but he was a nice little piece in it. i don't think he is used on PP much, but in general he should be trusted with longer minutes.

defensively, he is asked to hit which in itself isn't rare, but still valuable. but he also takes away a lot of space from the opponent. plus you are getting him during what should be his prime, 27-30. $3.6 seems like it's a lot in a reduced cap space, but the relative cap hit is unlikely to be that much worse from last season. i think it's at worst fair for the caps, so buying him out simply unnecessary.

he looks bad at -15, but it was just a bad combo with the dale hunter "system". a player whose defensive value comes from chasing guys and knocking them off the puck is asked to head back and try to block shots.

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How on Earth is Ward's a team-friendly deal?
last year was a dip for him, but if you haven't noticed, none of the caps players were any better. when he was used, he pretty much held his own against the opposition in terms of shots, and he played with worse teammates. if he was still producing at his nashville pace, $3m/yr would be a steal, and as a player, he's clearly closer to his '10-11 campaign, than his '11-12. he can handle tough minutes. certainly at a better clip than guys like aucoin, beagle, and hendrix. i don't think he was scratched fairly, and i think his minutes should have been longer.

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The Caps don't really have any terrible, cap-strapping contracts.
agree there.

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brouwer has shown a skillset which is always somewhat undervalued. he can play on virtually any line. he is not a great stickhandler or somewhat who creates by himself, but he can effectively backup virtually any play and contribute on points. of course, his totals are a little inflated from being on a historically good offensive team in chicago, but he was a nice little piece in it. i don't think he is used on PP much, but in general he should be trusted with longer minutes.

defensively, he is asked to hit which in itself isn't rare, but still valuable. but he also takes away a lot of space from the opponent. plus you are getting him during what should be his prime, 27-30. $3.6 seems like it's a lot in a reduced cap space, but the relative cap hit is unlikely to be that much worse from last season. i think it's at worst fair for the caps, so buying him out simply unnecessary.

he looks bad at -15, but it was just a bad combo with the dale hunter "system". a player whose defensive value comes from chasing guys and knocking them off the puck is asked to head back and try to block shots. .
He also threw Hamr and Bjork under the bus.

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