I really must be a different segment of hockey fan...absolutely no interest watching KHL, SEL, or whatever league they have over there. I am interested in watching the Winnipeg Jets play any one of 29 other NHL teams...period.
Don't be upset with me, it's just the way I am
I would argue you are the most common type of hockey fan. And I would tend to agree with you. But for me it is more of a limited amount of time I have available. I love the Jets so I carve out the time to go to games and watch games on TV and go on the boards to talk about them. But for us married guys with kids it is negotiated and off set in other ways. Occassionally I find the time to watch another NHL game or other sports but I am selective to the teams playing and the implications of the game. The rest of my life is work, children and family obligations, chores, yard work and other interests and hobbies etc. This doesn't make me less of a hockey fan it's just life. Just writing this makes me miss the Jets already
It's not because it is boring (which it isn't), it's because most Canadians don't really love hockey, they love the big old band wagon show. They bail on the big show when it leaves, then return when it comes back. That's why the Moose did 4000 fans TOPS in November on a given year; why cheer on your local team when there's plenty of big show bandwagons to jump on? Go "Indianapolis Colts", I guess.
Not trolling, just how I feel. I'm alright with it all.
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The Moose averaged about 7000/game at the old arena, and around 8000/game after they moved into the MTSC. Were people buying tickets and not showing up in November, or were the crowds over 10,000 in March?
And yeah, part of the fun of watching any sport is the big show atmosphere - compare watching a televised CFL game from the Skydome with the Labour Day Classic, for example. With hockey, the European on-ice product isn't bad, but watching MODO take on Djurgarden in front of 5500 whistling fans isn't the same as watching Oilers vs. Flames or Boston vs Montreal...so I guess I don't really love hockey?
I'm sure you love hockey, you're on here aren't you? I was referring to the fairweather fans.
Ok, I am dismissing the Antropov rumour, can't find anything to back it. Looks bogus.
So just Ponikarovsky and Pavelec have signed so far.
I am hearing that European GM's (specifically about Swiss GM's) are having dozens of call per day asking for contracts, but most teams simply do not have the money insure and pay these guys. I am not sure if many more Jets will be signing overseas...
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Ok, I am dismissing the Antropov rumour, can't find anything to back it. Looks bogus.
So just Ponikarovsky and Pavelec have signed so far.
I am hearing that European GM's (specifically about Swiss GM's) are having dozens of call per day asking for contracts, but most teams simply do not have the money insure and pay these guys. I am not sure if many more Jets will be signing overseas...
I thought that Pavelec's deal fell apart at the last moment as he wanted a clause in his contract that he could go back to the NHL if the lockout ended mid-season.
It was one of the eliteprospects writers who tweeted it (see previous in post by me in thread) and Pavelec is no longer listed on the HC Trinec roster
I thought that Pavelec's deal fell apart at the last moment as he wanted a clause in his contract that he could go back to the NHL if the lockout ended mid-season.
It was one of the eliteprospects writers who tweeted it (see previous in post by me in thread) and Pavelec is no longer listed on the HC Trinec roster
Huh. Yeah, eliteprospects has dropped him from roster, that's good enough for me...how could a Czech league team expect a guy like Pavelec to commit to the whole season, that's ridiculous, everybody else is signing deals with NHL out clauses, what you think you're some special team? Whatever, Pavs will catch on somewhere. Would have though HC Lev Praha would go after him, but I guess they are content with (former Moose) Drew MacIntyre and Tomas Popperle.
D Arturs Kulda has FIVE goals in SIX games....yes his stat line reads 6-5-0-5 as a defensive defenseman...here's to hoping the guy comes back to NA with the Jets in 13-14!
Huh. Yeah, eliteprospects has dropped him from roster, that's good enough for me...how could a Czech league team expect a guy like Pavelec to commit to the whole season, that's ridiculous, everybody else is signing deals with NHL out clauses, what you think you're some special team? Whatever, Pavs will catch on somewhere. Would have though HC Lev Praha would go after him, but I guess they are content with (former Moose) Drew MacIntyre and Tomas Popperle.
Ya, if you can translate Czech he's not on their official website either.
Can't remember where I read the article but I believe it was Pavs was still looking in Europe so I guess it's just a matter of where not if.
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Interesting factoid...
D Arturs Kulda has FIVE goals in SIX games....yes his stat line reads 6-5-0-5 as a defensive defenseman...here's to hoping the guy comes back to NA with the Jets in 13-14!
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I hope you're right. Although I'm not as certain as you about Kulda's upside I'm hoping he can become that... We don't have any other high hopes for tough minute LH defensemen within the prospect pool for our future (unless Clitsome or Melchiori takes some crazy jump).
For long term we got...
RH: We got Bogosian, Trouba, Postma, and Redmond
LH: We got Kulda, Melchiori, Yuen and Sol
Drastic diference...
I have a connection at the league level and that is all I will say. If you know otherwise, why not refute what I said rather than simply stating I'm incorrect.
A) Rogers and Bell own the Leafs. They won't vote to broadcast their competition, nor will they pay for that privilege.
B) The coming media negotiations are especially sensitive as CBC want to retain HNIC (near their only profit center at that network), TSN would like to expand their footprint, as would likely Rogers as well given their recent purchase of The Score. NHL and KHL are competitors. The NHL won't look kindly upon the network that chooses to air their competition during a work stoppage. That is a risk in future negotiations, lost leverage. Global (a minor player and not a league partner) is likely the only network politically able to take such a risk.
C) I agree with you that there is no money to be made, but the overwhelming consideration in this case is political; no one will take the risk of offending the league.
I don't believe I have to again explain my position that was very clear in previous posts.
You may have a connection at a league level but I have been in media for 10+ years. I understand what things cost, the margins involved and the fact that the numbers don't even come close to adding up.
Also, you are treating it like the networks are all lining up begging for the NHL to give them games. That is not at all true. The NHL wants the best broadcast deals for it's member teams. The networks willing to pony up will get the contracts, regardless of what they show during a lockout when the NHL isn't showing product at all.
Hell, any of these networks could show KHL while the NHL is playing, and the league would still deal with them as long as they are offering the most money and biggest audience.
Saying that a network would not show alternative hockey because they are afraid of losing the 'right' to broadcast NHL games is categorically false.
Going back to your Bell/ Rogers point you are again incorrect. Their mandate is to make money for their shareholders. Plain and simple. If the NHL is not in operation, their sole purpose is to find replacement programming that can most closely replicate the audience that NHL hockey would to satisfy thier clients and make money for the corporation and their shareholders. They would absolutely show KHL if that was the case.
However, again due to logistics, licencing and audience, it makes more sense for them to show Poker or darts. It may not draw an audience, but its super cheap to run, and there is zero risk.
PS I apologise for derailing this thread with TV talk.
I thought that Pavelec's deal fell apart at the last moment as he wanted a clause in his contract that he could go back to the NHL if the lockout ended mid-season.
It was one of the eliteprospects writers who tweeted it (see previous in post by me in thread) and Pavelec is no longer listed on the HC Trinec roster
this is definitely not true information. but it's nothing uncommon that information from Europe are totally twisted when they arrive overseas
A Swedish paper is reporting that clubs are fed up with the SEL rules, and are just going ahead and trying to sign NHL'ers. Enstrom is in talks with Modo, as is Alex Steen from St Louis.
Not technically lockout out, but still a Jet property playing overseas...D Arturs Kulda is tied for the lead among ALL defensemen with FIVE goals in just SEVEN games. Second on his team in points, as a defensive defenseman. Third among all defensemen in points, seems to be 3rd among all defensemen in TOI with 24:39 per game. This guy is a stud, cannot BELIEVE we let him walk to Europe
Not technically lockout out, but still a Jet property playing overseas...D Arturs Kulda is tied for the lead among ALL defensemen with FIVE goals in just SEVEN games. Third among all defensemen in points, seems to be 3rd among all defensemen in TOI with 24:39 per game. This guy is a stud, cannot BELIEVE we let him walk to Europe
Although I'm on the same side as you for Kulda being a worthy prospect to keep a hold on...
5 goals in 7 games this season but only 6 goals all of last season...
He's just taking advantage of the extra ice to work his slapshot with. It's good to hear that he's still technically our property. Hopefully playing this season in Europe will do wonders for his defensive game. With the lockout, I honestly can't fault the guy for going over there, even if it was premature.
He's just taking advantage of the extra ice to work his slapshot with. It's good to hear that he's still technically our property. Hopefully playing this season in Europe will do wonders for his defensive game. With the lockout, I honestly can't fault the guy for going over there, even if it was premature.
Maybe I'm getting my players mixed up. I thought it was he who was offensively gifted for defenseman but wasn't exactly a great defenseman. I didn't get to see him play all that much, and there are a lot of conflicting opinions on this board.
Maybe I'm getting my players mixed up. I thought it was he who was offensively gifted for defenseman but wasn't exactly a great defenseman. I didn't get to see him play all that much, and there are a lot of conflicting opinions on this board.
That's Postma
Kulda did get knocked by scouts for being out of position sometimes but I believe that's been improved for the most part... HC is verrrry high on Kulda
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Pavs will be a beast for years to come, book it.
