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11-27-2012, 11:28 PM
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not playing games
don't know much about the "insides"
want it to be ultra portable
want it to be simple

buy a mac, by all means. macbook air? then you can go into one of those stores in the mall and report back what all those people are doing in there.

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can't you run the web version of office from just about anything? you might as well just use an ipad.

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11-27-2012, 11:35 PM
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Mine is 17.6 inches, but its pretty light. Its only 9 pounds.

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In the event that I can't get my laptop fixed for a reasonable price or that it would take far too long to fix, what laptop would you fellow HFers suggest I look into? I was thinking Macbook but I really should look at other brands as well rather than commit to Apple right off the bat.

A few general things I'd be looking for in a new laptop:

Durable as I carry it from my dorm to classes, the library, home, etc.

Not be too prone to viruses. I'm sure it depends mostly on the sites I visit and what system I run but if some laptops are less prone to viruses than others I'd like to know.

Run all Microsoft Office applications (Work, Powerpoint, Excel, etc.) although I'm betting all laptops can do this.

Relatively light, I don't want to be carrying around a big clunker of a thing.

At least a 13" screen.

Under $1400

I don't plan on doing any gaming on it or storing a lot of stuff on it so I don't think memory space is going to be an issue.

Things like Processors and internal components I can't really comment on since I really have no idea what all of them do or which ones are best.

As I said above I'm thinking Macbook but I've heard good things about Sony and Lenovo as well but I'm open to all brands EXCEPT DELL.
Buy something durable, lightweight, and in your price range, wipe out Windows and then put Linux on it. Probably a million ways to get MS Office to run on Linux under WINE or something if that's all you want to do with it anyway. And you should be able to achieve that with literally ANY laptop made in the last 10 years, let alone something modern.

It's either that or a Mac if you want to avoid Windows' assorted vulnerabilities.

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11-28-2012, 12:38 AM
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you have to dick with Linux though. I get the feeling he is anti-dicking

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11-28-2012, 11:22 AM
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You basically described a Macbook Air.

Durability
= alumnium case, SSD drive

Stable & secure OS
= OSX

MS Office
= yes (although it is Mac version which is slightly different)

Lightweight
= 3 pounds

13"+ screen
= yes

< $1400
= $1020 before tax (free shipping) (or you can buy a new one for $1200, literally no difference)

Average performance
= 1.8 GHz i5, 4 GB memory, 128 GB HDD, integrated wi-fi, bluetooth, etc



Now, the only cons are:

Price
- $1200 new, $1020 refurb, before tax. PC's are cheaper but NOT necessarily equally equipped.

OSX
- If you hate learning new operating systems...well OSX is dead simple but it's different.

No DVD/CD drive
- You can buy one for $50 but it will connect via USB. Not a big deal IMO.



If I were going to find some competitive notebooks for you:

Dell Ultrabook - $800, pretty much a Macbook with Windows

Samsung - $1000, again basically a Macbook with Windows


Any of those computers would meet your needs in every way. Obviously I like Macs and just bought a 13" MBA a few months ago. If I were going PC, I'd probably look at the Dell or maybe Samsung. I think Samsung makes a better product but Dell is $200 cheaper.

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Thanks for the tips. I think I'll just bring my current laptop into Chipheads and get an assesment now since the people at the IT desk don't seem to know what the hell they're doing.

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I am guessing your hard drive crapped out. Possibly a bad motherboard, possibly a corrupted OS.

What kind of laptop is it? If they quote you a crap load of money I can try and help you fix it.

(former Geek Squad repair guy)

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Wife and I are fully considering making the switch back to Apple.

I want a mini, she wants an iMac (new one) and eventually, a retina MacBook Pro. i am relatively sure that the only PC that will be in our house within a handful of years will be my tablet. unless, of course, it becomes a lot more realistic to be able to draw, with a stylus, on an iPad or Apple comes out with a MacBook Convertible.

As for Office... or replacements?

In August, I suggested to a co-worker, who has his oldest daughter starting over in Madison, to switch to using Google Docs. He sent a cheapo laptop with her and it ended up barfing within the first week. She lost some homework and was... #dramasad. Rather than spend any money on office software, leverage the cloud. Write the **** in GoogleDocs, let it save it, and it prints just like a Word doc. Hell, I use their spreadsheets to coordinate stupid browser based strategy games and you can do almost everything, outside of complex pivot tables in their spreadsheet.

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I use pretty much exclusively Google Docs for everything outside of work.

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I use pretty much exclusively Google Docs for everything outside of work.
Yep. I'm so done with doing things locally...

About the only things that I still do locally are;
Animations
Advanced Photoshop
Drawings in SketchbookPro...

Wait...

Now that I think about it...

Edit: Awesome sauce. Yeah, I figured they were compatible with MacOS, but had to check...

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11-28-2012, 12:36 PM
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Holy hell... makes mine change its own diapers.

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Final Fantasy. Just had FIVE fights in FIVE steps. I hate random encounters.

Edit: now six in a row.

Now seven in a row. Buggy?

Now eight in a row. I'm reloading an old game.

Nevermind, it's a "feature" in the Earth cave.


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In the event that I can't get my laptop fixed for a reasonable price or that it would take far too long to fix, what laptop would you fellow HFers suggest I look into? I was thinking Macbook but I really should look at other brands as well rather than commit to Apple right off the bat.

A few general things I'd be looking for in a new laptop:

Durable as I carry it from my dorm to classes, the library, home, etc.

Not be too prone to viruses. I'm sure it depends mostly on the sites I visit and what system I run but if some laptops are less prone to viruses than others I'd like to know.

Run all Microsoft Office applications (Work, Powerpoint, Excel, etc.) although I'm betting all laptops can do this.

Relatively light, I don't want to be carrying around a big clunker of a thing.

At least a 13" screen.

Under $1400

I don't plan on doing any gaming on it or storing a lot of stuff on it so I don't think memory space is going to be an issue.

Things like Processors and internal components I can't really comment on since I really have no idea what all of them do or which ones are best.

As I said above I'm thinking Macbook but I've heard good things about Sony and Lenovo as well but I'm open to all brands EXCEPT DELL.
Why don't you do some googling and researching yourself instead of asking us to do it for you?

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Because we're a happy little community that likes to help each other out.

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Because we're a happy little community that likes to help each other out.
But honestly, it's a thing that's not hard to search for yourself, really.

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Yeah, but he probably knows that we have some tech guys here that are more than happy to assist. And probably have more reliable info than Yahoo Answers would provide.

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Holy hell... makes mine change its own diapers.
Yeah, I wouldn't like that option.

When I use SketchbookPro on my HP tablet, my layers get a bit out of hand.

I sketch the rough first, add layer, add rough light based shading, add layer, scribble in details, add layer, refine details... etc.

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But honestly, it's a thing that's not hard to search for yourself, really.
Many years ago I had this strange depression/mental disorder going on but doctors weren't any help. I used Google (which is a terrible idea if you have a mystery illness) and kept going to doctors and therapists and describing my condition, and they'd try to give me Xanax for panic attacks, but I wasn't getting panic attacks.

Then one day on a music forum I mentioned it and someone said "oh, that's panic disorder...find a good cognitive behavioral therapist and they'll help." So I looked it up and got a book on it...nailed it. Went to a CBT, got a low does of anti-depressant/anxiety medication, and I'm 90-95 percent better today.

Moral of the story: sometimes it helps to get a lot of trusted people's opinions vs trying to find the answers on your own.

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In the event that I can't get my laptop fixed for a reasonable price or that it would take far too long to fix, what laptop would you fellow HFers suggest I look into? I was thinking Macbook but I really should look at other brands as well rather than commit to Apple right off the bat.

A few general things I'd be looking for in a new laptop:

Durable as I carry it from my dorm to classes, the library, home, etc.

Not be too prone to viruses. I'm sure it depends mostly on the sites I visit and what system I run but if some laptops are less prone to viruses than others I'd like to know.

Run all Microsoft Office applications (Work, Powerpoint, Excel, etc.) although I'm betting all laptops can do this.

Relatively light, I don't want to be carrying around a big clunker of a thing.

At least a 13" screen.

Under $1400

I don't plan on doing any gaming on it or storing a lot of stuff on it so I don't think memory space is going to be an issue.

Things like Processors and internal components I can't really comment on since I really have no idea what all of them do or which ones are best.

As I said above I'm thinking Macbook but I've heard good things about Sony and Lenovo as well but I'm open to all brands EXCEPT DELL.
Thinking out of the box for a moment...

This + This

I am relatively sure that GoogleDocs works just fine on an iPad... My wife actually manages deployments from her iPad as it is also relatively easy to remote into a PC from an iPad...

Otherwise: This

Windows 8 blows major chunks. If you stick with a Windoze PC, make sure you keep Windows 7...

I cannot STAND Windows 8...

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Many years ago I had this strange depression/mental disorder going on but doctors weren't any help. I used Google (which is a terrible idea if you have a mystery illness) and kept going to doctors and therapists and describing my condition, and they'd try to give me Xanax for panic attacks, but I wasn't getting panic attacks.

Then one day on a music forum I mentioned it and someone said "oh, that's panic disorder...find a good cognitive behavioral therapist and they'll help." So I looked it up and got a book on it...nailed it. Went to a CBT, got a low does of anti-depressant/anxiety medication, and I'm 90-95 percent better today.

Moral of the story: sometimes it helps to get a lot of trusted people's opinions vs trying to find the answers on your own.
This is a little different than a random depression/mental disorder, and you know it. I feel that you're siding with him instead of trying to understand my point. He had his laptop for 1,5 years and it stopped working. Big deal, happens to everyone. Dell products are known to be reliable and well priced, yet he swore to never buy another one because he happened to get a "bad" one. And he's getting $1400 to buy a new laptop. The least he could do? Look up some comparisons and do some research himself. The guy gets a free Macbook Air, and yet he's complaining that his laptop broke and makes other people do his research for him.

Not cool.

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You're really hung up on his dad helping to pay for his laptop, aren't you?

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Thinking out of the box for a moment...

This + This

I am relatively sure that GoogleDocs works just fine on an iPad... My wife actually manages deployments from her iPad as it is also relatively easy to remote into a PC from an iPad...

Otherwise: This

Windows 8 blows major chunks. If you stick with a Windoze PC, make sure you keep Windows 7...

I cannot STAND Windows 8...
That's really cool.

If I had the cash I'd buy one for my mom. She has a case with a built in keyboard but it's a floppy piece of crap that won't hold an angle. I've always thought if you could get a tablet that can "dock" into a keyboard with an adjustable angle, that would take care of 99% of your average person's computing needs.

Actually if she and I both get the jobs we applied/interviewed for it'd be great to pick one up for her. Come on future karma

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Let's all stay on topic.

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Pfff...windows 8 isn't so bad.

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