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09-17-2012, 07:18 PM
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[QUOTE=ForSpareParts;54405007]We do have have connected people here on HFBoards. Who do you think might replace Allaire? Someone from the Marlies? An ex-Leaf like Joseph? Potvin? Could we steal Ranford from LA?

Who's available?

What do you think?

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Does it really matter? A coach isn't going to come in and turn a mediocre goalie into a stud.
Someone forgot to tell Mike Smith that.

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Belfour, if he has a knack for teaching. He did learn from tretiak.

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Does it really matter? A coach isn't going to come in and turn a mediocre goalie into a stud.
Couldn't have said it better myself. No goalie coach is ever going to turn Reimer or Scrivens into elite NHL goalies. they could help them round out their career but I seriously doubt they ever become elite talent.

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Has Cujo been a goalie coach at a pro level? I want whomever is the best coach out there. Not whomever has the most positive nostalgia around him....

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Does it really matter? A coach isn't going to come in and turn a mediocre goalie into a stud.
If a goalie has the tools to be a stud goalie, but isn't using them right then a goalie coach can be the one that teaches them to use them better. For example, Sean Burke taught Mike Smith to use his size more to his advantage so he was more efficient in the net and had a chance at virtually every shot.

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09-17-2012, 09:06 PM
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anyone but Allaire

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Cujo? No one draws up how he played as a standard for a goaltender. He was freakishly athletic and wild... very similar to Thomas.

Ed Belfour was pristine technique though being good something hardly qualifies you as a teacher.

Not a big fan of Allaire's passive system. Reimer was playing better when he was more aggressive. Playing deep in his nethas magnified Reimer's below average glove.

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If a goalie has the tools to be a stud goalie, but isn't using them right then a goalie coach can be the one that teaches them to use them better. For example, Sean Burke taught Mike Smith to use his size more to his advantage so he was more efficient in the net and had a chance at virtually every shot.
I don't know what the hell Burke told Smith but he was unfreakingbelievable in that Hawks series.

Best goaltending performance in a singular playoff series... coast to coast of course Quick was better. But holy smokes was Smith impressive.

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I don't know what the hell Burke told Smith but he was unfreakingbelievable in that Hawks series.

Best goaltending performance in a singular playoff series... coast to coast of course Quick was better. But holy smokes was Smith impressive.
That was so frustrating to watch. In my hockey pool you can pick up to 15 players maximum of 5 per team. I chose 5 Chicago players... I was almost in last place out of 70+ people in the pool because I chose Chicago players who are barely getting any points and most people had some Pitts and Philly players who were just tearing it up. Luckily I also picked 5 LA players and 5 NJ players. Ended up moving into a tie for 3rd place (and moving into the money) during the final game of the playoffs haha (yes, I picked 5 NJ players and nobody else from the East, I had NJ going to the cup final ). Smith almost made me win no money though...was very frustrating to watch haha.

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I don't like the guy personality wise, but If Hasek really wants to make it back to the NHL....

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Belfour, if he has a knack for teaching. He did learn from tretiak.
Belfour has a rep as being a jerk.

Have you ever heard him say more than the minimum in an interview?
Does not seem cut-out to be a communicator as a coach.

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09-18-2012, 08:29 AM
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Things seem to be falling into place nicely:

Wilson
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Burke?
Trade Kadri?


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Belfour had amazing teaching himself, and if he could give some of that wisdom to our young goalies it would be incredible. Also just seeing Belfour back would be incredible.

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09-18-2012, 08:41 AM
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I miss Belfour and I miss Cujo, but I don't always think that it's a good idea to have them coaching just because I miss them.

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I think Belfour would be great, personally. If Scrivens has a rough game, he'll take him aside, give him some advice.

....and then they go get their drink on.


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09-18-2012, 09:31 AM
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I think Belfour would be great, personally. If Scrviens has a rough game, he'll take him aside, give him some advice.

....and then they go get their drink on.
Damn right. It worked for Eddie, might as well let Scrivens learn the ways of the master!

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09-18-2012, 10:23 AM
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Does it really matter? A coach isn't going to come in and turn a mediocre goalie into a stud.
While its true you can't turn chicken feathers into chicken salad, a good coach and strong defensive system can go a long way to supporting a goalie and his personal stats, confidence & team results.

Coach Dave Tippet in Phoenix is a prime example of taking goalie Brzygalov, Smith etc off of the scrap heap on waivers or UFA and turning them into solid NHLers.

Allaire's comments posted earlier referenced Leafs system and poor defensive play as a reason why Leafs consistently finish at the bottom of the league goals against standings, and he gets criticized for it.

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While its true you can't turn chicken feathers into chicken salad, a good coach and strong defensive system can go a long way to supporting a goalie and his personal stats, confidence & team results.

Coach Dave Tippet in Phoenix is a prime example of taking goalie Brzygalov, Smith etc off of the scrap heap on waivers or UFA and turning them into solid NHLers.

Allaire's comments posted earlier referenced Leafs system and poor defensive play as a reason why Leafs consistently finish at the bottom of the league goals against standings, and he gets criticized for it.
So Phoenix the league owned team has a superior Mangement and Coaching staff than the League's top revenue generating team. Gary Bettman indeed knows more about Hockey than Brian Burke.

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So Phoenix the league owned team has a superior Mangement and Coaching staff than the League's top revenue generating team. Gary Bettman indeed knows more about Hockey than Brian Burke.

Given the problems that Phoenix has had to deal with the past couple years (salary problems, ownership problems, laying off most of their scouting staff), Phoenix is probably the best run team in league pound for pound.

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Given the problems that Phoenix has had to deal with the past couple years (salary problems, ownership problems, laying off most of their scouting staff), Phoenix is probably the best run league team pound for pound.

Fixed that for ya.

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Given the problems that Phoenix has had to deal with the past couple years (salary problems, ownership problems, laying off most of their scouting staff), Phoenix is probably the best league run team pound for pound.

Fixed that for ya.
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