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How Much Will The Lockout Limit Trades?

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09-18-2012, 03:27 AM
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How Much Will The Lockout Limit Trades?

I guess in a sense, I'm being selfish. I'm a Coyotes fan, and with our entire offseason relying on Doan's decision, we lost more key pieces than we gained. With that said, Maloney was recently quoted saying that now that Doan is here to stay, he will begin to address certain areas of our roster via trade. We still need a center, and maybe another winger as well, and seeing as we could start playing anywhere from 2 weeks from now, or next year, i would really like to know how the lockout affects personnel additions.

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I think its safe to say nothings going to happen until a cba is in place. My understanding is that all NHL operations have shut down.

If you are asking about post lockout, there will likely be a flury of movement if the cap is lowered.

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Nothing will happen until the new CBA is in place.

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Somewhere in between zero trades and 100% no trades

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Just because there are no trades allowed, GMs are still likely talking to each other.

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If I was the GM I would still talk about trades but wouldn't do anything until I know what the cap is. Can't risk going over it and losing solid players.

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aren't teams allowed to trade minor leaguers during the lock-out? Or do they just have to agree to lend players out and theoretically stay part of the same NHL organization?

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Just because there are no trades allowed, GMs are still likely talking to each other.
It's not like they have anything else to do! They can't side with either the players or owners on CBA negotiations (but they can give their opinions). Maybe a trip to Europe (group rates?), take in more junior games, keep tabs on the players...

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It already had his effects during the summer.

Between the draft and the end of August 2011 there were 25 trades.

In the past summer, while the draft was still pretty busy in terms of trades, the summer basically dead silent. Only 6 trades: The Nash trade, Foligno for Methot, Ott for Roy, Wideman's rights and two minor deals (Wellman and Crombeen).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012-13_NHL_transactions

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I guess in a sense, I'm being selfish. I'm a Coyotes fan, and with our entire offseason relying on Doan's decision, we lost more key pieces than we gained. With that said, Maloney was recently quoted saying that now that Doan is here to stay, he will begin to address certain areas of our roster via trade. We still need a center, and maybe another winger as well, and seeing as we could start playing anywhere from 2 weeks from now, or next year, i would really like to know how the lockout affects personnel additions.
Due to there being be no CBA I do not think any trades ca occur during the lockout of players with NHL contracts. Prospects and ahlers could be traded, but I do not think NHL contracts can be swapped as trades are covered by the CBA and with no CBA in place and all contracts are tied to the agreements covered in said CBA--NHL contracts are frozen till th new cba is in place. This is one reason why there was a mad scramble to sign players on the friday

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Just because there are no trades allowed, GMs are still likely talking to each other.
of course teams will talk trades, that is part of the business and always goes on. Even during the playoffs. However, becuase so much is linked to the CBA and trades are covered by the cba, I do not think teams can trade NHL contracts without a cba in place

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Due to there being be no CBA I do not think any trades ca occur during the lockout of players with NHL contracts. Prospects and ahlers could be traded, but I do not think NHL contracts can be swapped as trades are covered by the CBA and with no CBA in place and all contracts are tied to the agreements covered in said CBA--NHL contracts are frozen till th new cba is in place. This is one reason why there was a mad scramble to sign players on the friday
Technically there is a CBA. The 2005 CBA is in effect until it is replaced by a new one. The "no strike/lockout" clause has simply been opted out of (as per the method explicitly outlined in said CBA).

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Just because there are no trades allowed, GMs are still likely talking to each other.
I agree with this. GM's are probably aware of what the CBA is going to look like, thus they will be able to talk about trades.

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