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09-19-2012, 03:08 PM
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I never liked that system. Why should the same poorly managed teams go to the front of line and continue to hog high draft picks when no hockey has been played? How is it fair that Edmonton could draft first overall 4 years in a row and have won 5 Cups in the last 30 years?

The draft should be set up in such a way that distributes lottery picks to all teams that miss the playoffs or have never won a cup.

If I were to design a lockout lottery system every team would start off with 8 balls. You lose two balls for every 1st over all pick and one ball for every 2nd or 3rd overall pick you've had in the last ten years. You then lose 2 balls for every Stanley Cup you've won in the last 35 years and one ball for every Cup final appearance in the last 15 years.
I like it to be honest, I agree with the fact the lower end teams get the higher opportunities to pick up the earlier picks. Yeah you could make the point that these picks are "wasted" when going to poorly managed teams but imagine how bad a team like Calgary would be if all their picks were coming from the 25-30 range!
Under this system the likelyhood of Edmonton getting 1st overall is exactly the same as us getting it thanks to the fact they've had the last couple so would only be getting one ball.
tbh I'm all for it.

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09-19-2012, 05:24 PM
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I think the player who could benefit the most from the lockout is Chris Tanev. He'll get top pairing minutes with the Wolves but will be playing tougher competition then he normally would in the AHL. Guys like RNH, Eberle, etc.
Disagree. Tanev is NHL ready, a slightly higher competition level in the AHL is not what is best for him. It's not as if he has nothing to learn in the AHL, but the lockout certainly doesn't help him at all. He'd be getting at least 16 minutes per night in the NHL playing with either of Edler or Ballard, he'll learn more doing that than he will playing an extra 5 minutes per night playing next to Connauton against guys that for the most part wouldn't crack it as 4th liners.

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09-19-2012, 06:49 PM
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There is absolutely no benefit to the Canucks with this lockout.

We are in the window now and it's only closing. Other teams need more development time and the lockout benefits THEM. To suggest we benefit from the lockout, while cute in the sense that you're certainly a forever-optimist, is flat-out wrong.

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09-19-2012, 08:28 PM
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There is absolutely no benefit to the Canucks with this lockout.

We are in the window now and it's only closing. Other teams need more development time and the lockout benefits THEM. To suggest we benefit from the lockout, while cute in the sense that you're certainly a forever-optimist, is flat-out wrong.
Absolutely agreed.

Even if there are benefits (you'd have to reach a bit, IMO), they're pretty heavily outweighed, IMO

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09-20-2012, 11:23 AM
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Disagree. Tanev is NHL ready, a slightly higher competition level in the AHL is not what is best for him. It's not as if he has nothing to learn in the AHL, but the lockout certainly doesn't help him at all. He'd be getting at least 16 minutes per night in the NHL playing with either of Edler or Ballard, he'll learn more doing that than he will playing an extra 5 minutes per night playing next to Connauton against guys that for the most part wouldn't crack it as 4th liners.
One thing he will get a chance to do is play on the powerplay (he'd never even get a sniff here with Edler, Garrison, Bieksa, Hamhuis and perhaps even Ballard in front of him as better offensive players).

Tanev needs opportunities to build his skills and confidence in the offensive end of the rink and at the NHL level he doesn't have the freedom to do that (in part because he babysits Ballard and in part because he's not good enough to freelance at one end of the rink and still take care of business in his own end).

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09-20-2012, 11:27 AM
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Yeah, on the surface there is no benefit to their being a lockout. If something great happens after the lockout we might find a silver lining with hindsight but our window is closing instead of opening and a lost year is another great opportunity down the drain.

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09-22-2012, 06:10 AM
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Stop looking at the bright side.

It benefits other teams so much more than it benefits us, IMO. And we lose our best chance to compete.
Yup.

We're entering the autumn of our window as a Cup contender, and if we lose the season, that's an absolute disaster for the franchise.

If it's a 50-game season like in 1995, that's something different, but right now I'm fully expecting that these idiots will nuke the entire season again.

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09-22-2012, 11:56 AM
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Our core is old. Lockout is a net negative, IMO, and a significant one at that.

Watching these KHL games is fun, though, that's for sure! We're going to get spanked in Soji....

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