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10-18-2012, 04:23 PM
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Parse is too close of a name to Parise.
Jersey modifiers would have a field day if he stuck around and wore #9.

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10-18-2012, 05:36 PM
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I doubt Parse gets a spot out of camp. The good news though is that if we have depth problems or injuries, I'm sure Parse gets a look before other bums. At least we won't have Sestito or Mills playing again like last year hopefully. At least we have enough D depth too that we don't have to see Jay Leach back here again either!
I don't know.

I think Parse would definitely be in the running, he's been on LA's roster the past two years just had tons of setbacks with injuries. He's proven to be an NHL player, and he never really had much of a chance to play in LA between injuries and how their roster shaped out.

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10-19-2012, 03:45 PM
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Got bored so I went back and made some connections between trades we've made in the past.

Arnott + McKay --> Langenbrunner + Nieuwendyk
Langenbrunner --> DAL's 3rd 2011
Halischuk + 2nd 2011 --> Arnott
Arnott --> Steckel + WAS's 2nd 2012
Steckel --> TOR's 4th 2012
Pelley + Fraser + 7th 2012 --> Foster + Pielmeier
WAS's 2nd 2012 + NJ's 3rd 2013 + Foster + Veilleux + Palmieri --> Zidlicky

So starting in 2002, the net fallout from the Arnott/Langenbrunner deal is as follows:

New Jersey gives up:

Jason Arnott
Randy McKay
Stephane Veilleux
Rod Pelley
Matt Halischuk
Mark Fraser
Nick Palmieri
39th overall 2011 (Magnus Hellberg)
210th overall 2012 (Jaycob Megna)
3rd Round Pick 2013 (TBD)


New Jersey receives:

Joe Nieuwndyk
Marek Zidlicky
Timo Pielmeier
75th overall 2011 (Blake Coleman)
96th overall 2012 (Ben Thomson)



*A total of 20 unique assets were moved
*Five intermediate assets were moved more than once
*Occurred over seven different transactions involving six different teams

*Gave up 10 assets (four full-time NHLers, three prospects with <100 NHL GP, three draft picks)
*Six forwards, two defensemen, one goaltender, one TBD
*Gave up a combined career 1507 points in 3198 GP (.47 PPG)
*Six assets are still with the club they were given to

*Received 5 assets (two full-time NHLers, one prospect with <100 NHL GP, two draft picks)
*Three forwards, one defenseman, one goaltender
*Received a combined career 1432 points in 1827 GP (.78 PPG)
*Three assets are still owned by New Jersey

*One could make the argument that the Steckel to Toronto deal facilitated the NJ's 4th + Joe Sova --> Alexei Ponikarovsky trade

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What does this mean? I have no clue. I was just bored and thought it might be interesting.

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10-19-2012, 04:10 PM
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I feel like it's not fair to count Arnott, Halishchuk, and that 2nd all on the "give up" side. We received a valuable player back for Halischuk.

I sure as **** wish we had Hellberg though...

EDIT: Also Langenbrunner doesn't end up on either side


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10-19-2012, 05:32 PM
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Depresses me that we traded Halischuk and Hellberg for Arnott.

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10-19-2012, 05:41 PM
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If we didn't **** the bed that season that trade would of looked a ton better.

I was a huge Halischuk fan thought really liked the kid thought he could end up being special here.

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10-19-2012, 06:04 PM
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Yeah the fact we sucked ruined that trade. Arnott was one of our best players when we sucked though.

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10-19-2012, 06:11 PM
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If we didn't **** the bed that season that trade would of looked a ton better.

I was a huge Halischuk fan thought really liked the kid thought he could end up being special here.
I saw Halischuk as a fringe 2nd liner/damn good 3rd liner with a knack for scoring clutch goals. I wasn't really that bummed when we traded him, but looking back, we could really use a winger like him right now.

I kinda wanted us to draft Hellberg, but of course the goalie factory in Nashville takes him. It stings a little less using the 2nd from Arnott to get Zids, who ironically enough, began his NHL career playing in Nashville.

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10-19-2012, 06:46 PM
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Maybe we can get Halischuk back. We got Arnott back!

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10-19-2012, 06:57 PM
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Well we traded Halischuk + 2nd rounder for Arnott. Then flipped Arnott for a 2nd rounder and Steckel. Then flipped Steckel for a fourth-rounder. So basically we traded Halischuk for half a season of Arnott, quarter of a season of Steckel and a fourth lol (plus a swap of 2nds).

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10-20-2012, 12:08 AM
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You forgot to include the Cup that was the direct result of the Langenbrunner/Nieuwendyk deal, that's a big factor in assessing the deal. And I'd add Langenbrunner's captaincy as an intangible benefit too.

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10-20-2012, 12:59 AM
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We could get Halischuk back. I mean we traded Salmela for Havelid, and then got him back the next year with Kovy right? Haha!

It would be real funny if we got Bergfors back. Then we can have the biggest forward asset we gave away in that trade, and Kovy all here together!

A lot of people seemed to think Oduya was coming back at the deadline. The even funnier thing would have been that Oduya would have ended that same contract, that he was signed to by us in the first place. Glad we didn't get him back though.

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10-20-2012, 08:32 AM
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Nashville seems to like Halischuk, I don't think they are in any hurry to trade him back. It would cost us more than we'd like.

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10-20-2012, 09:25 AM
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i think bergfors went through 125 dollar waivers last year and was released to some euro league

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10-23-2012, 05:08 PM
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Was searching for an article on google during this years finals and came across the wording on this


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10-24-2012, 05:18 AM
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Clarkie going to EC Salzburg, EBEL league why not my Bears

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10-24-2012, 05:34 AM
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Clarkie going to EC Salzburg, EBEL league why not my Bears
Interesting choise. Enstrom signed there too.

Your team is in a better position anyway than Salzburg.

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Interesting choise. Enstrom signed there too.
Already marked 18.11. on my calendar -> 15199 crazies rocking blue and me, rocking red&black for the ocasion can't root against my Bears, but must do something for Clarkie. BTW- I'll be right behind his bench. So - can anybody spare a certain player card, so I can show him? Just for gigls

edit - yeah we are better, but they got Clarkie, and we got effin Penguin ...


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10-26-2012, 11:19 AM
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Even though they are pretty much copying the ESPN commercial template, this one is great


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10-26-2012, 11:23 AM
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10-26-2012, 11:38 AM
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I love Dano, but he's no Terry Tate.

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10-26-2012, 04:37 PM
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More rumors of Bill Gallacher trying to buy a majority stake in the team.

Bill tried to buy the Dallas Stars and struck out.

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/njd121026.html

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10-26-2012, 08:12 PM
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He's trying to buy in during a lockout? Somehow I don't think this is Bettman's priority right now.

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10-26-2012, 08:34 PM
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^ I'd welcome anyone who :

1.) Has no desire to Move the team(even if the team can't be moved regardless)

2.) Gets MAJORITY ownership and perhaps can do a better job than Vanderbeek.


Of course, the likelihood of this happening is about as likely as the NHL Season starting on-time which is now officially a non-starter.

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10-26-2012, 09:33 PM
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Barch is at it again
I don't know how much he'll like playing for the Devils when Lou tells him straight out, 'no social media'

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