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09-19-2012, 02:42 PM
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Chicago-Boston


Kane
Hjalmarsson
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Krejci
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09-19-2012, 02:47 PM
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Kane
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Emery


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Khudobin
.... wouldn't do all three for Kane, he's elite and a superstar Period.


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09-19-2012, 02:51 PM
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.... wouldn't do all three for Kane, he's elite and a superstar Period.
I see it in a different light. I would be reluctant to move Hamilton if I'm Boston. Players with his skill set and potential are almost impossible to find


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09-19-2012, 02:54 PM
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I don't think this is a good trade overall. I understand Chicago is looking for a second line center but I rather have Kane and Hjalmarsson on my team. Chicago I believe is a trade or two away from being a good contender with their core players.


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09-19-2012, 02:55 PM
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I see it in a different light. I would be reluctant to move Hamilton if I'm Boston. Players with his skill set and potential are almost impossible to find
I think the value is pretty damn close, but neither team jumps on it. As you said Hamilton is perhaps the most important member in our organization and he hasn't played a game yet... After Chara we have a very, VERY average d-corps... Good idea though, one of the better proposals I've seen around here. Not sure the Bruins want someone with Kane's off-ice behavior, as well.

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09-19-2012, 02:57 PM
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I see it in a different light. I would be reluctant to move Hamilton if I'm Boston. Players with his skill set and potential are almost impossible to find
Hamilton is not Bobby Orr in waiting he's not going to be Elite,He's going to be very good but People are way overvaluing this kid WAAAAAYYYYYY I have no clue why I've seen him plenty of times and I really haven't been wowed by the guy....I think your under valuing Hjalmarrson and mostly Kane because it's hard to get a sniper like Kane.

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09-19-2012, 03:01 PM
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.... wouldn't do all three for Kane, he's elite and a superstar Period.
lmao yeah 66 points is eliiiite.


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09-19-2012, 03:04 PM
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.... wouldn't do all three for Kane, he's elite and a superstar Period.


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Kane
Hjalmarsson
Emery


Krejci
Hamilton
Khudobin
Why is Hamilton included in every trade proposal.

Bruins fans probably won't even trade him for Kane straight up, that's how much they value this kid. A deal centering around Kane and Krejci could work, but the Hawks are giving up age for potential in this deal.

Even if you argue that Kane has more value than Krejci, I personally think it's pretty even, Khudobin has more than Emery hands down, and with Hamilton's potential he has more value than Hjalmarsson, and the value there is way more than anything Kane would have over Krejci.

The Hawks would have to add, and they probably wouldn't be willing to do that.

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09-19-2012, 03:13 PM
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Hawks hang up the phone when Kane is mentioned.


Like Krejci, not in the "Hamilton is the next great D-man" with what I have seen of him, and dont think those two are enough for Kane alone, but thats my opinion. Patrick Kanes just dont come along as much as defensive propspects who have been deemed something spectacular, just sayin.

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09-19-2012, 03:29 PM
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Hamilton is not Bobby Orr in waiting he's not going to be Elite,He's going to be very good but People are way overvaluing this kid WAAAAAYYYYYY I have no clue why I've seen him plenty of times and I really haven't been wowed by the guy....I think your under valuing Hjalmarrson and mostly Kane because it's hard to get a sniper like Kane.
I didn't mean that Hamilton was the rebirth of Bobby Orr, and I agree that the value is close, but I wouldn't do it from a B's perspective and here's why.
-moving Krejci would mean moving Seguin from wing to C. I don't think that Kane is a big enough upgrade to Seguin to justify making this move.
- hjalmarsson is a good defensive dman but he has limited upside. Hamilton has good size, physical play, and offensive upside so his potential makes him far more valuable then Hjalmarsson.

So I don't think Boston would improve enough in areas of need to justify this trade

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09-19-2012, 03:34 PM
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No thanks from Boston.

Value is close tho.

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09-19-2012, 03:37 PM
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No. Hamilton makes it a no go. Plus, I think Kane is VASTLY overrated.

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lmao yeah 66 points is eliiiite.
Kane was right up there with the league leaders in ES scoring.. the Hawks PP was atrocious. Kane is an elite player, you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

No from the Hawks. Really surprised this came from a Hawks fan.

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lmao yeah 66 points is eliiiite.
I said it in another thread and I'll say it again. Last year Kane had 66 total points and 54 at even strength. In 2010-2011 he had 73 total points and 49 at even strength while playing 73 games. In 2009-2010 he had 88 total points and 58 at even strength. The difference between Kane last season and the seasons before was the Blackhawks PP, which is one of the worst coached I have ever seen, and the fact that he had Andrew Burnette playing with him, who if I remember correctly missed 4 open nets after being given the puck directly by Kane, and that was only in one game. He might not be elite, but he is one of the most underrated players on HF lately

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Kane was right up there with the league leaders in ES scoring.. the Hawks PP was atrocious. Kane is an elite player, you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

No from the Hawks. Really surprised this came from a Hawks fan.
Agreed on Kane but I like Hamilton a lot. I also like Khudobin a lot. Krejci gives us a 2nd line C. This is pushing the limits of being enough for Kane though, I admit that.

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No interest in whatsoever in Hjalmarrson or Emery.. so let's remove them from the proposal.

Kane is interesting. An unknown however as he has regressed the past few seasons, certainly very talented, but not "elite".

Hamilton will not be going in a deal with Krejci. I hate to label anybody "untouchable", but what Hamilton represents to Boston is the future of the blueline. He oozes potential. Wether or not he fulfills that promise shall be seen.

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09-19-2012, 04:18 PM
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Kane is untouchable. You want an untouchable, you have to give up one too.

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09-19-2012, 04:33 PM
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Hawks hang up the phone when Kane is mentioned.


Like Krejci, not in the "Hamilton is the next great D-man" with what I have seen of him, and dont think those two are enough for Kane alone, but thats my opinion. Patrick Kanes just dont come along as much as defensive propspects who have been deemed something spectacular, just sayin.
I imagine that it would the Hawks inquiring about Krejci rather than the Bruins to Kane.

I doubt the Bruins would move Hamilton in any deal and there's no way the Bruins trade Seguin.

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Kane is untouchable. You want an untouchable, you have to give up one too.
I think Kane is a very good player. Chicago has zero reason to trade him unless for a 'too good too pass up' offer. IF Boston had another dman with the pedigree of Hamilton, I'd be open to including him in a deal for an upgrade at wing. But after Hamilton, Bostons defensive prospect pool is shallow. Circumstances.

However I will say Boston does not have a need for Hjalmarrson (Seidenberg, Boychuk, Ference) all fill the mid-pairing role well. Emery is useless to Boston. So even IF Boston did have better blueline prospect depth behind Hamilton, I still dont think Patrick Kane is worth (both) Krejci & Hamilton. Not even close.

I wouldnt trade Hamilton + Krejci for Toews,, nevermind Kane.

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A few hawk fans are starting to sound like leaf fans

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No way boston does this why downgrade in every position!

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This deal would kill Boston in terms of the salary cap.

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No. Hamilton makes it a no go. Plus, I think Kane is VASTLY overrated.
I think you may have found the least correct word to describe Patrick Kane relating to this website.

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Hamilton has been hyped up to be Chara's replacement. No Bruin's fan is ever going to let go of him unless it would be for a young franchise defenseman straight up. i.e, not going to happen.

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