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If the entire season is lost, what happens if Thomas returns in '13-'14?

View Poll Results: If the entire season is lost, what happens if Thomas returns in '13-'14?
Thomas is traded sometime before the season starts 24 66.67%
Thomas starts the season as Tuukka's back up. Because of team turmoil he is traded. 1 2.78%
Both Tuukka and Thomas split the #1 job roughly 50/50 and they ride who ever is hot 3 8.33%
Thomas is Tuukka's back up for the entire season. 4 11.11%
Thomas keeps his starting job 4 11.11%
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09-20-2012, 09:34 AM
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If the entire season is lost, what happens if Thomas returns in '13-'14?

I noticed the Thomas appreciatian thread I start roughly two years ago has been bumped in recent days. SInce it is being used in many cases more of a bashing thread than an appreciation thread, I figured this would be a better alternative to move the recent Thomas talk to. An appreciation thread really isn't meant for bashing last I checked.



How ironic would it be if we lost the entire '12-'13 season to the lockout, and Thomas comes back for the '13-'14 season and didn't miss anymore time than anyone else?

The longer this thing plays out, the more realistic it becomes.

There is obviously a couple big if's, but if both happen, one of five things is most likely to happen-



1. Thomas is traded sometime before the season starts

2. Thomas starts the season as Tuukka's back up. Because of media attention and team turmoil he is traded before January 1st.

3. Both Tuukka and Thomas split the #1 job roughly 50/50 and they ride who ever is hot throughout the year.

4. Thomas is Tuukka's back up for the entire season.

5. Thomas keeps his starting job


I've got to think the most realistic order of the way things would unfold is the order which I presented them in. Just curious what others think the team would do IF the entire season is lost, and IF Thomas says he's going to play in '13-'14?

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If this was to happen, there are not enough tissues in the world to wipe all of the tears I would shed from laughing so hard.

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I don't think the entire '12-'13 season being lost is unrealistic. And I don't think it is unrealistic to think Thomas won't be back next year. I'm just curious what everyone thinks is most likely to happen if both occur.

I think the chances of the entire season being lost is around 20%. I think the likelihood that Thomas plays in the NHL next year is 50-75%.


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his contract would be expired.

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Think he will be declared a UFA

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Its a very interesting scenario, curious to see how that would play out. I believe Chia is in the mindset now that this is Tuukka's team today, and going forward regardless of what happens.

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I'm certain that the Bruins will just let his contract run out at the ed of this season and he'll be on his own.

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He has played his last game as a Bruin I think.

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Think he will be declared a UFA
My bad. So guys like Ference and Horton would also be a UFA? For some reason I thought if this season was a wash the contracts are pushed back a year. I didn't realize they all went on as if the season were played and they simply don't get paid.

In that case, Ference and Horton would have to be resigned before they became UFA next summer, right? But if the lockout were still going on into next summer, if they reached an agreement after the UFA date, it would be too late to sign them to an extension?

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My bad. So guys like Ference and Horton would also be a UFA? For some reason I thought if this season was a wash the contracts are pushed back a year. I didn't realize they all went on as if the season were played and they simply don't get paid.

In that case, Ference and Horton would have to be resigned before they became UFA next summer, right? But if the lockout were still going on into next summer, if they reached an agreement after the UFA date, it would be too late to sign them to an extension?
Since there is a lockout could the Bruins still choose to toll his contract?

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My bad. So guys like Ference and Horton would also be a UFA? For some reason I thought if this season was a wash the contracts are pushed back a year. I didn't realize they all went on as if the season were played and they simply don't get paid.

In that case, Ference and Horton would have to be resigned before they became UFA next summer, right? But if the lockout were still going on into next summer, if they reached an agreement after the UFA date, it would be too late to sign them to an extension?
I believe when the Bruin traded for Gonchard and Nylander, they both had a year left on their contracts but became UFA's on July 1st 2005.

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I thought I read somewhere that, since he sits out the 2012-2013 season (if there is one), he owes the team a year of service. He can then be traded.

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I thought I read somewhere that, since he sits out the 2012-2013 season (if there is one), he owes the team a year of service. He can then be traded.
Now THAT would be hilarious ... and I mean if Thomas, because of his stated want to sit out the season previous to the season ending lockout is the ONLY PLAYER NOT to have a year of his contract wiped clean.

Many laughs would be had indeed.

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I don't think he ever plays again for the B's. If he returns to the league, it will not be with the Bruins. Most probably be traded

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I did not vote because who knows ?

It would depend on Tuukka and how well he plays.

I think the B's will try and trade Timmy.

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I thought I read somewhere that, since he sits out the 2012-2013 season (if there is one), he owes the team a year of service. He can then be traded.
He played us this entire time

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stupid thread is stupid

thomas is a UFA after this year, lockout or not (and he won't be re-signed). /thread

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Since there is a lockout could the Bruins still choose to toll his contract?
He announced he wasn't going to play before the lockout started, so they'd have some standing if they tried it.

I think they would, since that would represent a year of service for a contract that's already paid out. Thomas' contract would have counted against the cap in the lockout year. His cap hit would be minimal the following season. A great goaltender for minimal cap hit = you toll that contract if you can, even if only to get the trade value.

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it may take Thomas longer than a year to connect with his family so I'm thinking his NHL career is over

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TT will NEVER, EVER, EVER wear the spoked B again, PERIOD. He pissed Cam off something fierce.

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When Thomas decides to come back, so will the NHL. As goes Timmy, so goes the NHL.

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Still think Thomas will be a UFA so this is a non story

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My bad. So guys like Ference and Horton would also be a UFA? For some reason I thought if this season was a wash the contracts are pushed back a year. I didn't realize they all went on as if the season were played and they simply don't get paid.

In that case, Ference and Horton would have to be resigned before they became UFA next summer, right? But if the lockout were still going on into next summer, if they reached an agreement after the UFA date, it would be too late to sign them to an extension?
http://www.patriotledger.com/sports/...y-than-in-2004

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The team allowed the contracts of an amazing number of key Bruins – long-timers Joe Thornton, Glen Murray, Mike Knuble and Brian Rolston, trade-deadline acquisitions Sergei Gonchar and Michael Nylander, and NHL Rookie of the Year Andrew Raycroft – to expire.

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He announced he wasn't going to play before the lockout started, so they'd have some standing if they tried it.

I think they would, since that would represent a year of service for a contract that's already paid out. Thomas' contract would have counted against the cap in the lockout year. His cap hit would be minimal the following season. A great goaltender for minimal cap hit = you toll that contract if you can, even if only to get the trade value.
He said that in July, people change their minds. You can never know that he meant it if there was nothing for him to show up to.

I don't think they could toll it even if they wanted to, which I doubt they would want to anyways.

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Since so many think that Thomas' not playing was just a ploy and that he not only WANTED to play somewhere else, but WOULD play somewhere else this year... if he doesn't sign a contract to play in Europe this year, would that at all convince people that he truly just doesn't want to play hockey this year?

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