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09-20-2012, 01:07 PM
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Players who disappeared due to personal reasons

After reading today about Paul Ranger signing a minor league deal with the Leafs after disappearing in October 2009 for "personal reasons that were never divulged", I got to thinking about other players who were in a similar situation. Two come to mind - Chad Kilger (who I am surprised the Leafs never had to "take back" from Florida) and Wes Walz (I know little about the details, just that he was pretty much AWOL at one point)

What are some other examples of this?

Please don't speculate on players' personal issues unless they have been proven and documented at a reliable source.

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Didnt Peter Zezel retire or take time off because his niece was ill? it was shortly after he was traded from vancouver i think and he didnt want to be far from her. if i am remembering this correctly

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Real "Chevy" Chevrefils. Ranked #2 behind Jean Beliveau as the best Junior prospect; projected to become one of the greatest LW's ever by Boston GM Lynn Patrick who owned his rights. Won the Memorial Cup with the 1951 Hap Emm's Barrie Flyers, Hap also stating he was the most talented & skilled player he'd ever Coached, players of the day also backing up the aforementioned comments by Emm's & Patrick, an absolute Superstar in ascendancy. In 50/51, over 54 games, 52G/51A. He was a bit lithe, on the light side, so it was suggested by Boston that he "bulk up" a bit by including a few beers with his supper. Unfortunately, Real' took to the taste rather too enthusiastically, alcoholism pretty much destroying what "coulda been".

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thanks for your contributions, but I just want to make sure I'm clear about what this thread is for, so that it doesn't go in an unintended direction. There's nothing mysterious about what happened to Chevrefils and Zezel. The three players I mentioned just plain stopped playing hockey. Out of nowhere. And never said why.

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Killion's sudden retirement remains one of the big 'what ifs' for historians to ponder. Rumors at the time had him everywhere from performing in off-broadway musicals, becoming a Tibetan Monk to persuing his lifelong dream of starting the first meerkat farm/ranch in Canada.

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tim thomas?

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Reading about Ranger on a Marlies blog..

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Now, about those personal reasons that made him leave. There’s a lot of speculation towards what exactly what drove him to leave. Personally, there’s one that I believe that makes it so it’s not a shock that he’d be in and around the Leafs organization, but at the same time, the fact he’s from Whitby also makes it not a shock that he’d be in and around the Leafs organization. What that speculation is, I won’t say. It’s up to Paul to break his own news.
http://marlieshq.com/2012/08/26/the-...f-paul-ranger/


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Killion's sudden retirement remains one of the big 'what ifs' for historians to ponder. Rumors at the time had him everywhere from performing in off-broadway musicals, becoming a Tibetan Monk to persuing his lifelong dream of starting the first meerkat farm/ranch in Canada.
.... ya, starred in the off-broadway tour of the musical Lost Horizon's, some of my earnings invested in British based film maker Oxford Scientific's documentary series Meerkat Manor. So, you can see how this sort of nonsense can get started.

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Not yet. I know the NHL hasn't started but did he not sign with Colorado?

Another name out there is Glenn Anderson. No, he didn't leave the game with personal reasons but he would disappear in between games when he was playing and no one would know where he was on the Oilers. Then he'd show up and do his thing. He was a bit of an enigma off the ice.

Not sure if Alex Daigle would count on here or not. Never really liked hockey to begin with.

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What about Chad Kilger

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Brodeur missed like the 3rd game of the season over personal reasons that I don't think were fully explained a few years ago

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Brodeur missed like the 3rd game of the season over personal reasons that I don't think were fully explained a few years ago
Personal reasons(depending on duration) in order of likeliness

-Maritial difficulties/divorce
-Severe illness/death of close family member(or oneself)
-Some type of mental breakdown


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Not yet. I know the NHL hasn't started but did he not sign with Colorado?

Another name out there is Glenn Anderson. No, he didn't leave the game with personal reasons but he would disappear in between games when he was playing and no one would know where he was on the Oilers. Then he'd show up and do his thing. He was a bit of an enigma off the ice.

Not sure if Alex Daigle would count on here or not. Never really liked hockey to begin with.
I think Daigle must have liked hockey some to even get to the level he did. Probably just realized he could stop trying once he stated making millions. NHL is a lot more difficult too. Personally, I love hockey but I wouldn't have the dedication to commit myself to excellence for more than a brief period if I were at that skill level.

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The three players I mentioned just plain stopped playing hockey. Out of nowhere. And never said why.
... well, Frank Mahovlich "just stopped playing hockey" couple of times there while with the Leafs "with no explanation" short of "personal reasons". It wasnt until much later that we found out he'd been unfortunately suffering from Depression, exacerbated by his profession & Punch Imlach. Generally, when a player "disappears" or goes "AWOL" as you put it earlier, either temporarily or permanently and its not due to physical injury or age, its "personal". Be it family (as rumoured with Walz) problems with a wife/sibling/child/parent or whatever; possibly drug or alcohol related; perhaps mental exhaustion; maybe detests the Coach or some of his team mates; refuses to be sent down; could be any number of things. Never speaking out publicly about it. Ever.

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just a point of clarification. Ranger did not sign a minor league contract with the Leafs, he signed a contract with the Marlies. That is an important distinction because that means he is not actually Leafs property.

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Jeff O'Neill

Jeff O'Neill death of brother.
Les Costello priesthood.
Todd Bergen golf/issues with Mike Keenan

Others left to go into business. Could provide a list

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Chuck Lefley left the game when he had 3 years on his contract with the St Louis Blues. He would later pop up to play in Switzerland and then attempted a comeback with the Blues.

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Stefan Legein retired as a teenager a few years ago. I don't know if he has ever officially stated why, but there was plenty of speculation.

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Stefan Legein retired as a teenager a few years ago. I don't know if he has ever officially stated why, but there was plenty of speculation.
I was actually following the Columbus Blue Jackets around that time. He lost his passion for the game, didn't want to be a professional hockey player. Felt it was too demanding and he simply didn't like it.

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I know this is a poor example but at age of 32 Guy Lafleur retired many blamed his relationship with Lamaire and Savard.But some believe he wanted to keep his marriage intact and knowing he made some errors in the past and Savard had told other gm's that Lafleur was hanging around the wrong crowd.

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Killion's sudden retirement remains one of the big 'what ifs' for historians to ponder. Rumors at the time had him everywhere from performing in off-broadway musicals, becoming a Tibetan Monk to persuing his lifelong dream of starting the first meerkat farm/ranch in Canada.
Yes, Killion is the Sidd Finch of HFB.

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Yes, Killion is the Sidd Finch of HFB.
... hey, tough choice. MLB & NYC or French Horn for the Berlin Philharmonic.
Darryl Stawberry & the Mets or Richard Wagner and Ride of the Valkyries?

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... hey, tough choice. MLB & NYC or French Horn for the Berlin Philharmonic.
Darryl Stawberry & the Mets or Richard Wagner and Ride of the Valkyries?
I guess it depends on whether one was more into white powder or white power.

I'm not a fan of either, but Wagner wrote some good tunes.

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