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09-21-2012, 06:36 AM
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Suprised this hasnt been posted... Let me know what you guys think...



Interesting, obviously depending on the CBA.. Makes it seem like something is already lined up.

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09-21-2012, 06:53 AM
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Luongo for Kadri and a 1st.
They can't give Luongo away and you want to give up that?
and our 1st will be a top 3 pick for sure....

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Best examples of how he said Ron Wilson won't be fired and that changed, then most recently saying how Allaire was the best Goalie coach and will stay with the Leafs and now his opinion about him has changed.
It's called sticking up for your employees, and is actually an admirable quality to have in a boss.

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09-21-2012, 07:27 AM
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It's called sticking up for your employees, and is actually an admirable quality to have in a boss.
Especially if he hired or they were hired for him What else can he say? Besides I ****ed up again.

Make no mistake Burke wanted Wilson, afterall he also named him team USA coach.

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09-21-2012, 07:31 AM
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I don't see what all the drama here is for.
How could anyone not expect him to try and improve the Team going into the Season?

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09-21-2012, 07:54 AM
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If he was trying to obtain that caliber of a player it was serious IMO. We simply had no Staal brother, so no guarantee Jordan would have re-upped here.
The Leafs lacked two things in the Staal trade:

1)An across the board player of similar value, in a similar position that guy from the Canes was Brandon Sutter.

2)A Staal brother.

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I don't see how any of this is so far fetched. It's not like Burke has been here for 3 years, and done nothing the entire time.

The ****ing think tank that exists here. The guys that bring out the same dumb ass, canned comments, need to be culled. This place becomes unreadable because of that ****.
This.

People see the name Howard Berger and out comes their pre-conceived opinions about him. People around here are just angry for the sake of being angry.

Nah, how could a guy that has been hanging around the Leafs dressing room on a daily basis for 20+ seasons possibly have any connections within the organzation?? Jesus people, give your head a shake.

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09-21-2012, 08:00 AM
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The Leafs lacked two things in the Staal trade:

1)An across the board player of similar value, in a similar position that guy from the Canes was Brandon Sutter.

2)A Staal brother.
Burke had mentioned it in the Draft video, that we were in on the staal sweepstakes but we didn't cave in the price and because we didn't have a staal.

I wonder if the rangers will do the same thing with Marc Staal now.

However as to the speculation on who we might be seeking in a "possible" trade scenario, I'd still put out my vote for Paul Stastny. I just think liles was one part of a possible deal that was brewing between us. It might be an overpayment of our liking but I think it's possible, as he's a valuable piece even though they are very strong in the center area. If duchene shows the promise he was showing at the start of his rookie year, i'd think Stastny might become more expendable with Radar also becoming a very solid second line center.

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I don't see what all the drama here is for.
How could anyone not expect him to try and improve the Team going into the Season?
It is due to Burke being nothing but a fibber apparently.

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09-21-2012, 08:03 AM
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You aren't a real Leaf / hockey fan is you think Howard Berger has any clue at all what he is talking about

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09-21-2012, 08:09 AM
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You aren't a real Leaf / hockey fan is you think Howard Berger has any clue at all what he is talking about
I am not a fan of berger and his writing, rarely do I praise the man, probably once in a blue moon. However I can't deny the fact he has connections, after working with a franchise for god knows how long.

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Yup. Burke's time to make moves will be next summer. The Leafs have a terrific cap situation and Burke will need to make some bold moves going into his last contract year.
Leafs cap system going into next year is average, better than some worse than some.

Trouble is we don't know age or terms for players to become UFA right now.

Might not matter at all with you have a lot or a little cap space.

Better to go with what's in the system, everything else is just bullcrap.

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Once we found out Jordan really only wanted to hold Eric's hand, I agree.
Exactly why Burke was able to sign Niedermayer in Anaheim.

You have to take advantage of those situations.

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Leafs cap system going into next year is average, better than some worse than some.

Trouble is we don't know age or terms for players to become UFA right now.

Might not matter at all with you have a lot or a little cap space.

Better to go with what's in the system, everything else is just bullcrap.
I think differently, people think we can't move players like Connolly and Lombardi easily? I know they aren't the ideal players we are looking for but we can move them if we want.

Moving those two players itself will gives us what 9 mill cap space? Not to mention moving out Clarke Macarthur for possible prospects in our AHL team ready to step up.

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I think differently, people think we can't move players like Connolly and Lombardi easily? I know they aren't the ideal players we are looking for but we can move them if we want.

Moving those two players itself will gives us what 9 mill cap space? Not to mention moving out Clarke Macarthur for possible prospects in our AHL team ready to step up.
Next year you don't have to move Connolly, he's already off the books. Same with Lombardi and others.

We posted a chart a couple weeks ago, and Leafs are near the middle in available cap space after this season.

Leafs aren't the only team that can place players in the minors.

They really are only average for cap space.

It doesn't really matter though, the player has to want to sign for cap space to be relevant.

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I don't see what all the drama here is for.
How could anyone not expect him to try and improve the Team going into the Season?
I think people actually believe Burke of all people is going to sit on his hands because that is what he told reporters.

Meanwhile a trade or two looks likely because we actually have a few too many players and not enough roster spots (play the kids!). But it's Berger stating the obvious so it can't possibly be true...

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I don't see how any of this is so far fetched. It's not like Burke has been here for 3 years, and done nothing the entire time.

The ****ing think tank that exists here. The guys that bring out the same dumb ass, canned comments, need to be culled. This place becomes unreadable because of that ****.
Why don't you go back to modding. I always agree with your assessment of these things.

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Stastny or Getzlaf thats what it will come down too

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Next year you don't have to move Connolly, he's already off the books. Same with Lombardi and others.

We posted a chart a couple weeks ago, and Leafs are near the middle in available cap space after this season.

Leafs aren't the only team that can place players in the minors.

They really are only average for cap space.

It doesn't really matter though, the player has to want to sign for cap space to be relevant.
Can you link me to this please?

I am not talking about players being placed in the minors, just taking about how players we have in our roster can be easily moved.

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09-21-2012, 10:20 AM
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Kinda off-topic but does anyone have a link to the Behind the Draft 2012? I can't find it online.

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Getzlaf and Luongo.

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I'm almost certain Brian has something in his wheelhouse that we'll likely see before the next Leafs game is played. There's just a very uncertain environment with the CBA issue that causes things to be put on hold until after everything is clearer. There are such a wide array of factors that could dictate how sensible certain moves are that moving assets before these factors become known is simply foolish.

Will we see a move come to fruition? Very difficult to say, can't pull the trigger right now and so many different circumstances could conceivably cause deals to fall apart right now that seemed promising. Burke has valuable assets that he can afford to move, it's just a matter of the right asset being out there.

Granted, a certain amount of this is likely posturing and controlling discussion/expectation. The goaltending coach situation was a fair bit of bad press and this timing certainly serves the function of shifting the discussion to more optimistic speculation. What information comes to the press is controlled by organizations, and usually controlled for specific purposes. It can be used to shift the nature of the current press, posturing to drum up interest/value in a particular asset, etc etc etc. Likely serves many different purposes that we as a casual fan have no possible way of determining at this current point of time. There's usually a bit of truth in it as well though.

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I say NO to Luongo. I don't want him to be the leafs goaltender.

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I don't see how any of this is so far fetched. It's not like Burke has been here for 3 years, and done nothing the entire time.

The ****ing think tank that exists here. The guys that bring out the same dumb ass, canned comments, need to be culled. This place becomes unreadable because of that ****.
Every thread, the same fourteen year-olds posting the same half-baked diatribe. I really hope there's no limit on the amount of people I can add to my ignore list.

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Every thread, the same fourteen year-olds posting the same half-baked diatribe. I really hope there's no limit on the amount of people I can add to my ignore list.
Mine has 143 posters on it so far.

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