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Looking to pick up some of this stuff as some of the boys say it's good. I know Matt Nichol created it and it seems pretty popular right now around the rink. Any of you guys use/used it? What did you think?
Checked out their website, seems that they have 3 products, which one are you asking about? One seems to be standard Gatorade with a bit of protein, another seems to be standard Gatorade with a lot of protein, and the last is just a whey protein powder.
I'm going with the skeptics in saying: this product offers nothing new.
Get enough protein through diet or standard whey, recover post workout with anything that has a 3 or 4:1 protein/carb ratio (chocolate milk works great). Bam - you're getting damn near everything these products offer without costing a fortune.
Looking to pick up some of this stuff as some of the boys say it's good. I know Matt Nichol created it and it seems pretty popular right now around the rink. Any of you guys use/used it? What did you think?
ya ive used the advanced recovery formula not worth the price at all but thats my personal opinion and im still using the sports drink and thats AMAZING!!!
ya ive used the advanced recovery formula not worth the price at all but thats my personal opinion and im still using the sports drink and thats AMAZING!!!
Yeah the product I'm most interested in is the sports drink. What would you say are the effects it has on your workout/game? Thanks!
Team BioSteel is popular (in my opinion) because Mike Cammallari wears their hat & t-shirts in post-game interviews (plug/endorsement for a friend of his, or the product he uses... fair enough - I just don't like endorsements being forced like that
I haven't checked their product line in a while, but when I read the nutrition label, it just seemed like a different approach then other performance drinks - an approach that I didn't feel was "optimal".
From what I read, there were no carbohydrates in the drink (their "pre & during" drink) - and this is NOT optimal for a sport like hockey. As well, there was no caffeine or creatine, two helpful substances that also help in hockey.... it's just amino acids (very important) and some vitamins & minerals...and lots of marketing and pushes from their buddies Cammallari and Gary Roberts. Gotta love the fraternity! lol.
Regarding their post-workout drink, again, unfortunately there are no carbohydrates - critically important post-workout! Your body needs carbs to stimulate the anabolic process (= to release the hormones that shuttle the protein to muscle), so with no carbs, it's not very effective!!!
Regarding the price, it's actually not "that" expensive (relatively speaking)... pretty neat trick the other marketing giants have done, the Dairy Farmers (who btw of course supply great funding for these "chocolate milk studies"),,, it's a bit of a myth to think that "supplement products" are crazy expensive and "milk" is somehow not... a large chocolate milk (at Tim Horton's let's say) is about $2.25, giving you ONLY 18g of PROTEIN, 60g of carbs, and 6g of fat... Male athletes especially NEED more protein then that, particularly post workout! So for that "price" of $2.25 or so, you're not getting a very thorough recovery drink... so, per "unit value" sort of thing, I'm suggesting that the "supplement" stuff isn't all that expensive when viewed from that perspective.
Nevertheless, chocolate milk does have it's place, and is a decent alternative if you don't have a more thorough recovery drink available.
I never had but from my research, I would probably use it commonly. And I am that all natural kind of guy, prefer water over really anything.
I am upset at Biosteel for being one of the companies that claim all natural but that have sweeteners and other ingredients that were def made in labs. BUTTTT the reason why i would use it is because its very limited. 2 or 3 ingredients i prefer not to have in my body where as drinks like gatorade and worse have a paragraph full of stuff.
Nothing can be as overhyped as Gatorade. Its really just sugar and salt, i drink a little only when im fully drained after a game. Like i feel i detoxed my body on the rink is when i need some gatorade but its overhyped cuz pro athletes are telling you its the best lol.
Matt Nichol actually created Biosteel because of fake drinks like Gatorade.
The best thing for your body long term is a constant array of good healthy food and natural drinks. Water, alot of it. Juices, fruit. If you want a strong post work out drink, I would recommend biosteel
Team BioSteel is popular (in my opinion) because Mike Cammallari wears their hat & t-shirts in post-game interviews (plug/endorsement for a friend of his, or the product he uses... fair enough - I just don't like endorsements being forced like that
I haven't checked their product line in a while, but when I read the nutrition label, it just seemed like a different approach then other performance drinks - an approach that I didn't feel was "optimal".
From what I read, there were no carbohydrates in the drink (their "pre & during" drink) - and this is NOT optimal for a sport like hockey. As well, there was no caffeine or creatine, two helpful substances that also help in hockey.... it's just amino acids (very important) and some vitamins & minerals...and lots of marketing and pushes from their buddies Cammallari and Gary Roberts. Gotta love the fraternity! lol.
Regarding their post-workout drink, again, unfortunately there are no carbohydrates - critically important post-workout! Your body needs carbs to stimulate the anabolic process (= to release the hormones that shuttle the protein to muscle), so with no carbs, it's not very effective!!!
Regarding the price, it's actually not "that" expensive (relatively speaking)... pretty neat trick the other marketing giants have done, the Dairy Farmers (who btw of course supply great funding for these "chocolate milk studies"),,, it's a bit of a myth to think that "supplement products" are crazy expensive and "milk" is somehow not... a large chocolate milk (at Tim Horton's let's say) is about $2.25, giving you ONLY 18g of PROTEIN, 60g of carbs, and 6g of fat... Male athletes especially NEED more protein then that, particularly post workout! So for that "price" of $2.25 or so, you're not getting a very thorough recovery drink... so, per "unit value" sort of thing, I'm suggesting that the "supplement" stuff isn't all that expensive when viewed from that perspective.
Nevertheless, chocolate milk does have it's place, and is a decent alternative if you don't have a more thorough recovery drink available.
Hope that makes sense!
Team Biosteel is not popular because Mike Cammalieri wears its logos. Its because its done an excellent job in creating a productive product and marketed it well getting a handful of athletes from hockey to olympic sports to the NFL who believe in it. I dont think one product was made this popular because of Mike C... Stamkos believes in everything Gary Roberts and Matt Nichol has told him in the last 3 years including nutrition. Now they have Nail Yakupov.
You say the drink is not optimal. You say your body needs carbs after a work out and you say it needs creatine? And no caffeine?
After that sentence, no one should be listening to your advice. Caffeine and especially creatine is far from needed in hockey or being a healthy living being in general. I dont even want to know what kind of sport drinks you drink. The only thing your body needs is healthy arrange of varied food and fruits and water.
Biosteel was not meant to load you up on Carbs and Caffeine and especially crap like Creatine. If your randomly tired before a game or practice, have some green tea. Much less dehydrating then coffee and 10x healthier for your body now and in the long run. But if your constantly tired and need caffeine then you should be getting more rest in general.
Amino Acids is basically the original source of energy that your body needs. Its the building blocks of protein and energy. Have foods with more Vitamin B and you will notice your body being more energized on a constant basis.
Stay away from supplements like Creatine. Does more harm than goodl.
The people behind Biosteel are very, very smart and specialize in high end athlete nutrition needs. But they also push a very expensive product using star athletes to pimp the name.
I would guess for the majority of us, we would make far more improvements nutrition-wise by just eating clean, real food and staying away from junk food and booze. Maybe for the guys that have their diet 100% under control they could benefit from the top end supplementation. Kind of like using $1000 skates that are a few grams lighter...for us schlubs it won't make a difference but for an elite athlete it might make a millisecond difference which could mean a win or loss.
My gut says a little gatorade powder in water and some low fat milk afterwards should be just fine. I think to a point protein powder is overrated unless you are working out like a fiend.
