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09-21-2012, 08:10 AM
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Oilers prospects upside

What are the potential of these prospects and where do they fit in our future line-ups:
Ewanyk:
Gernat:
Marincin:
Reider:
Pitlick:
Hamilton:
Martindale:
Pless:
Musil:
Moroz:
Zharkov:
Khraira:
LaLeggia:
Klefbom:
Gustafson:

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09-21-2012, 08:49 AM
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Ewanyk: At best, I see him as a 4th line center. My guess is that he'll likely be a career AHLer
Gernat: Potentially a 2nd Pairing Dman - may end up being a 3rd pairing, with lots of PP minutes
Marincin: I think he will be a top 4 Dman, with the possibility of being a top pairing guy
Reider: I think he could develop into a 2nd line winger, but he's also proven to be defensively sound, so a bottom 6 role is also a possibility
Pitlick: I think if he makes the NHL he'll be playing a bottom 6 role
Hamilton: I'm guessing he'll be a bust
Martindale: Another bust - career AHLer
Pless: 4th line NHLer at best
Musil: Bottom pairing guy
Moroz: Bust
Zharkov: Bust
Khraira:3rd/4th line NHLer
LaLeggia: Bust
Klefbom: 1st pairing Dman
Gustafson: Bust

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09-21-2012, 08:54 AM
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Ewanyk: At best, I see him as a 4th line center. My guess is that he'll likely be a career AHLer
Gernat: Potentially a 2nd Pairing Dman - may end up being a 3rd pairing, with lots of PP minutes
Marincin: I think he will be a top 4 Dman, with the possibility of being a top pairing guy
Reider: I think he could develop into a 2nd line winger, but he's also proven to be defensively sound, so a bottom 6 role is also a possibility
Pitlick: I think if he makes the NHL he'll be playing a bottom 6 role
Hamilton: I'm guessing he'll be a bust
Martindale: Another bust - career AHLer
Pless: 4th line NHLer at best
Musil: Bottom pairing guy
Moroz: Bust
Zharkov: Bust
Khraira:3rd/4th line NHLer
LaLeggia: Bust
Klefbom: 1st pairing Dman
Gustafson: Bust
Seems about right.

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Ewanyk: At best, I see him as a 4th line center. My guess is that he'll likely be a career AHLer
Gernat: Potentially a 2nd Pairing Dman - may end up being a 3rd pairing, with lots of PP minutes
Marincin: I think he will be a top 4 Dman, with the possibility of being a top pairing guy
Reider: I think he could develop into a 2nd line winger, but he's also proven to be defensively sound, so a bottom 6 role is also a possibility
Pitlick: I think if he makes the NHL he'll be playing a bottom 6 role
Hamilton: I'm guessing he'll be a bust
Martindale: Another bust - career AHLer
Pless: 4th line NHLer at best
Musil: Bottom pairing guy
Moroz: Bust
Zharkov: Bust
Khraira:3rd/4th line NHLer
LaLeggia: Bust
Klefbom: 1st pairing Dman
Gustafson: Bust
No one drafted by an NHL team has an upside of bust.

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09-21-2012, 09:06 AM
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So how are Moroz, Zharkov, etc already classified as busts, but Khaira is a 3rd/4th line NHL guy?

It's way too early to pass judgement on those guys.


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Ewanyk: At best, I see him as a 4th line center. My guess is that he'll likely be a career AHLer
Gernat: Potentially a 2nd Pairing Dman - may end up being a 3rd pairing, with lots of PP minutes
Marincin: I think he will be a top 4 Dman, with the possibility of being a top pairing guy
Reider: I think he could develop into a 2nd line winger, but he's also proven to be defensively sound, so a bottom 6 role is also a possibility
Pitlick: I think if he makes the NHL he'll be playing a bottom 6 role
Hamilton: I'm guessing he'll be a bust
Martindale: Another bust - career AHLer
Pless: 4th line NHLer at best
Musil: Bottom pairing guy
Moroz: Bust
Zharkov: Bust
Khraira:3rd/4th line NHLer
LaLeggia: Bust
Klefbom: 1st pairing Dman
Gustafson: Bust
I honestly see guys like Pitlick, Moroz, Zharkov, Khraira having a good chance to be cheap replacements for top 6 roles. As long as they can skate, work hard, hit, and add some offense, I can see these guys getting a good look at top 6 roles to play with our 6 million dollar studs

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Ewanyk:Bottom 6 AHL-er. Good hustle but will never put up enough points to get consideration. If we could take his heart and put it in Martindale's body, we'd have a player.

Gernat:Top 4 NHL, or at least #5 and PP specialist. I keep reminding myself that Chara was a gangly SOB for a number of years before he got it together. Prepare to be patient.

Marincin:Top 4 NHL. He's 6.05 now. Not high end enough offense for the top pairing.

Reider:2nd line RW. But not on this team unfortunately. Unless Yak or Eberle get dealt. I think he'll be too good to just be a bottom 6 guy, and he'll eventually want that opportunity.

Pitlick:Bottom 6 NHL. He needs a big year to get on track. This might be a long shot, IMO.

Hamilton:Bottom 6 NHL. Needs lots of work still in the AHL. If PRV and Harti graduate in the next year, he'll get the ice time.

Martindale:Used car salesman. Only wants a career if its handed to him on a silver platter. Needs to go to sleep listening to Tony Robbins tapes for a couple of years if he wants to make it.

Pless:Bottom 6 NHL or Top 6 in a Euro League. Easy to cheer for this guy, but its an uphill battle. Him and Hamilton won't have much time before Moroz, Zharkov and Jujar Binks are taking their ice time in the AHL.

Musil: Top 4 NHL. Might turn into Smid faster than Smid did.

Moroz:Bottom 6 NHL. He'll be given every chance. This is a big year to establish his top end if he can hang with the skill lines.

Zharkov: Top 6 KHL. Won't like that he's not going to get much of a chance to be a top line player. At the wrong end of a log-jam.

Khaira:Bottom 6 NHL. I like this guy. I'm just not sure about him. I hope he goes the full ride in College. It'll give us some time to see where he fits. I hope he plays center there.

LaLeggia: Top 4 AHL. Maybe a cup of coffee one day. Probably more of a shot of espresso than a Tim Horton's extra large.

Klefbom:Top 2 NHL eventually. I could see a Schultz-Klefbom pairing when both have worked out the kinks.

Gustafson: Maybe bottom pairing NHL. Most likely top 4 SEL. He'd help his chances by coming over at some point and doing the AHL route. I bet he's more comfortable at home, though.

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09-21-2012, 10:30 AM
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For as long as Oilers have RNH, Eberle, Hall, Yakupov to $6M a piece, Ewanyk, C. Hamilton, Pitlick, Moroz, guys with size and can skate will never bust. Worst case scenario there's always a bottom 6 role at a cheap NHL contract. Labelling our prospects as busts this early is insulting. Let's not forget we had far worse players playing for the Oilers not too long ago.

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09-22-2012, 07:27 AM
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Ok glad to get some opinions of these guys. But i believe that they all can be good/decent bottom liners.
They all have determination except Martindale which might be a bust if he doesnt play with more heart. Hamilton will have a bounce back season. I remember giving up on hartikainen when he came over to NA. Aldo a duo of the slovakian twin towers would be sick. I believe Zharkov could be a steal if what he said in an interview post draft, he wants to show everyone why he shudve been a 1st or early 2nd rounder. I know LaLeggia is small but his stats show he can produce. Also, the Nuge told the Oilers to pick him so he must be good if he recommended him

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Ewanyk: AHL'er/cup of coffee 4th liner
Gernat: 5/6 D or Euro leagues(boom or bust)
Marincin: 5/6 D, maybe bumps up to top 4
Reider: Euro leagues
Pitlick: Bottom 6
Hamilton: Bottom 6 potential, but he needs to step it up in the pros soon before his window closes
Martindale: minor leagues/euro
Pless: Euro leagues
Musil: top 4 defensive D upside, bottom pairing downside
Moroz: No clue, could be bottom 6 grinder, could be a minor league thug
Zharkov: 2nd/3rd line upside, but could just as easily be in europe within 3 years
Khraira: really long term project, maybe a bottom sixer if everything goes right(which is exceptionally rare).
LaLeggia: Career minor leaguer
Klefbom: Top 4
Gustafson: Career minor leaguer

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Ewanyk: Injuries hurt him last year. Good face off man. Lacks scoring according to reports. If developed right 4th liner
Gernat: Some people are over the moon with this 6-5 Slovakian D man with offense--one problem is the reports I read where he might not be that good in his own zone. One prosepect review compared him to Andy Delmore- Delmore was great going down the ice, but has limits in his own zone and in this league when you are a d-man you need to play both ends. There is a reason why a player like Marc Andre Bergion has bounced around so much
Marincin:--Another Slovakian D-man that some fans are doing back flips for. He started out great in his first year in NA and needs to work on his conditioning. He will be helped out my the fact both Klefbom and Schultz are in front of him so he will not be rushed
Reider: My prediction is we will have the Linus Omark debate about this guy and how the oilers developed him wrong,
Pitlick: Either pitlick or Lander will be the third line center within 3 years
Hamilton:At 21 the clock has started for him to show something. Oilers have lots of prospects that could easily fill the bottom 6
Martindale: Not liking his ECHL numbers from last year
Pless: He is listed at 5-11, some people have him at 5-7. Another Latvian and one thing I am concerned about is how scouts on this side of the pond are saying that Latvia is about hit a dry spell for good players.
Musil: Another son of an NHLers who some say could be a good d-man in the 6-3 range. If he is like his father we will be thrilled. My concern is the fact he has had two years of injuries.
Moroz:Grinder for the 4th line
Zharkov: Some people are over the moon for this guy reportedly needs to work on consistancy
Khraira:Jujhar Khaira--BCJHL often produces darkhorses and I will wait a few years before I voice my opinion
LaLeggia:
Klefbom: If he is one-tenth of the player he billed to be we have a steal in the LA deal. Some scouts have him being better than Ryan Murrey(non oiler fans are already calling him a bum)
Gustafson: Dark horse swede I saw two games he played last year in person with the Djurgardens and saw nothing special. There were two D-men I did notice Kyle Klubertanz (loved doing bad passes) and Fredrik Claesson (pushed off the puck easily)--Problem with Djurgardens is that they had a lot of vetren D-men last year and the kids they had did not get a lot of ice time in the clutch. They moved out two mid season and let two more go in the off season, so things should be good for him getting more ice time

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Based on potential...

Ewanyk: 3rd/4th line C who forchecks hard, PK's
Gernat: #4 offensive D-man, PP
Marincin: #2/#3 two way D-man
Reider: 2nd line RW, PP and PK
Pitlick: 2nd/3rd line RW
Hamilton: responsible 3rd line LW, PK's
Martindale: 2nd line C....come on, it could happen right?
Pless: A perennial all-star linebacker, and sure-fire hall of famer
Musil: #4 mean shut-down D-man, PK's
Moroz: 3rd/4th line banger with some finish
Zharkov: 2nd/3rd line LW
Khaira: 2nd/3rd line LW
LaLeggia: #5 offensive D-man, PP
Klefbom: #2 two way D-man, most likely to be invited to brunch by your mother

More than half of these guys likely won't play in the NHL or will get less than 50 games, 20% will make it (200+ games) but won't meet their potential, and 20% will meet their potential.

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Ewanyk: 4th line grinder energy player
Gernat:3rd pairing dman, if he can improve his give aways 4 or 5 dman
Marincin: If he can add some size on I see him as a 4 or 5 dman
Reider: I don't see any room for him as he is a right wing and even if we move Yak we need a player with size.
Pitlick:3rd line with the ability to move up to 2nd line minutes
Hamilton:Hamilton will be a legit 3rd, 4th liner that will excell in PK duties
Martindale: no hope
Pless:Europe
Musil: legit 2nd pairing shut down dman that can move the puck out
Moroz: 3rd line player that will give this team some nasty
Zharkov: I see him developing into a 2nd line winger and his size will be nice
Khraira: 3rd 4th line
LaLeggiaver seas
Klefbomlaying with Schultz
Gustafson:Over seas

I have more optimism then most but lets hope.

I see this team needing a 2C with size more than anything else.

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