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08-06-2013, 10:55 PM
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Flames still searching for front office staff

The Flames were unable to convince Shanahan to leave the league office.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/sports/...107/story.html

But the hunt still continues.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/touch/s...tml?id=8595602

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“Absolutely,” Flames president Ken King said Friday morning. “The search was not over. There’s a long list of people we’re interested in, some of whom we’ve talked to and some of whom we’ll talk to yet.

“(Shanahan) was among a group. We thought he was a top guy.”

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This stood out to me:

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Remember, this is the outfit that, under Darryl Sutter’s stewardship, made 34 straight picks — over four years, including three first-rounders — and produced a single NHLer, Brandon Prust. That’s hard to do.

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This stood out to me:
That's a very depressing quote/fact..

With all the hate Feaster takes, he has dramatically improved our prospect system from bottom 5 in the league to top 10. (imo) All in 3 years!

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That's a very depressing quote/fact..

With all the hate Feaster takes, he has dramatically improved our prospect system from bottom 5 in the league to top 10. (imo) All in 3 years!
Not just you many polls have us in the top 10.

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Looking over the drafts though they must have meant 3 years straight, cause in 2003 we had Phaneuf and in 2007 we had Backlund.

Edit: unless they count every pick after Phaneuf...

Edit part II: yes, yes they are

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I would say Weisbrod has improved our prospect pool. I don't think it's Feaster that is doing the scouting. But credit to Jay for hiring him.

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I would say Weisbrod has improved our prospect pool. I don't think it's Feaster that is doing the scouting. But credit to Jay for hiring him.
Button, too. Power to Feaster for letting them do their jobs.

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Feaster and company have drafted 20 players over three seasons and likely 8 are good candidates to be NHL'ers and hopefully more as they continue to progress:

Baertschi
Wotherspoon
Gaudreau
Jankowski
Sieloff
Gillies
Monahan
Poirier
Klimchuk

At least one of Jankowski/Gaudreau should make it so I listed nine.

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That quote had huge selective bias. They deliberately chose those years during Sutter's tenure. Feaster hasn't had much time, so its hard to say if he'll have many graduates.

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I'm glad they're still looking for someone. I still hold King accountable for most of this club's shortcomings over the years, and even regardless of those things, bringing in good personnel is never a bad idea.

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Both of those articles are from June. Interesting how we haven't heard a peep since then.

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It could happen well into the season. Problems the Flames face is absolute uncertainty. With realignment, trading away franchise players, rebuilding, etc. there are a lot of question marks heading into this season. I think by December even into the New Year the talks will start to increase. Or Weisbrod takes over as GM and Feaster is promoted to handle the hockey side of things an works along side Ken King.

You have to think once our new arena is built, the league expands, and there is more familiarity with the new alignment, ken king will move on completely.

That's how I see this all shaking up.

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Both of those articles are from June. Interesting how we haven't heard a peep since then.
This is the time to do it. Hire 'em before training camp, give them a month to familiarize with the ops, then let 'em loose to do whatever it is they'll do.

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That quote had huge selective bias. They deliberately chose those years during Sutter's tenure. Feaster hasn't had much time, so its hard to say if he'll have many graduates.
Maybe it did, but 1 player out of 34 picks in that time frame is still really bad!

And lets be honest, Sutter had a terrible draft record even including Phaneuf, Backlund, Reinhart, etc. Not to mention all the 2nd rounders he traded.

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Maybe it did, but 1 player out of 34 picks in that time frame is still really bad!

And lets be honest, Sutter had a terrible draft record even including Phaneuf, Backlund, Reinhart, etc. Not to mention all the 2nd rounders he traded.
Also, don't forget all the busts Sutter drafted in the 1st round.. Nemisz (looks like one), Irving, Krahn, Chucko, Pelech...

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Maybe it did, but 1 player out of 34 picks in that time frame is still really bad!

And lets be honest, Sutter had a terrible draft record even including Phaneuf, Backlund, Reinhart, etc. Not to mention all the 2nd rounders he traded.
Add Brodie to the list.

But you're probably right. Here's what King said about the difference in draft techniques:

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“We’ve been somewhat criticized and maligned for our draft record — I think, frankly, with some justification,” said King. “More laterally, we would argue that it’s improved. You can’t audit these (draft) meetings, but the degree of thoroughness, the technology that’s applied, the whole discussion process, is exemplary. I’ve seen it for 12 years. I think this group is exercising exactly the right kind of due diligence. I think they’re exercising exactly the right kind of processes to come up with the best choices.”

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Welcome to the salary cap era Mr. King. Finally the Flames have joined the party.

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