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09-18-2012, 10:51 AM
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Ukrainian prospects Thread

Might be good to get a list of all Uke prospects together.
Format: Age - Name - (Birth city) - Team city
2012-13
MHL:
Vladislav Kutsevich - (Kyiv) - Kazan

Other:
Olexander Polyanychka - (Lviv) - Czech league?

2013-14 (Confirmed roster spots)

KHL:
18 - Egor Morozov - (Tolyiatti, Russia) - Donetsk
19 - Vladislav Shalimov - (Belovo, Russia) - Donetsk
21 - Yuri Silnitsky - (Tyumen, Russia) - Donetsk
21 - Ignat Zemchenko - (Kyiv) - Cherepovets
21 - Dmytro Shvidenko - (Lubny) - Ugra
19 - Viktor Zakharov - (Kyiv) - Donetsk
23 - Maxym Kvitchenko - (Kyiv) - Donetsk
23 - Olexander Toryanik - (Kharkiv) - Donetsk

MHL (Young Guard):
17 - F: Kyrylo Bondarenko - (Kyiv) - Donetsk
17 - G: Serhiy Pisarenko - (Odessa) - Donetsk
17 - D: Vitaliy Andreykiv - (Lviv) - Donetsk
18 - G: Mikhail Shevchuk - (Kharkiv) - Donetsk
18 - Danylo Skripets - (Dnipropetrovsk) - Donetsk
19 - Maxim Martyshko - (Kharkiv) - Donetsk
20 - Ruslan Romashchenko - (Kharkiv) - Donetsk
20 - Ivan Savchenko - (Kharkiv) - Donetsk

MHL:
19 - Nikita Lisov - (Zaporizhia) - CSKA
20 - Vladislav Vorobiev - (Kyiv) - Tyumen

Canadian Hockey League:
18 - Vladislav Lysenko - (Kyiv) - Sherbrooke (QMJHL)
19 - Pavlo Padakin - (Kyiv) - Calgary (WHL)

Sweden:
17 - Dmytro Timashov - (Kirovhrad) - MODO J20

Germany:
16 - Ulib-Gleb Berezovskyy - (Kyiv) - Jungadler Mannheim U18

RESOURCES:
Young Guard (Donetsk, MHL) team stats
Young Guard active roster
Ukrainian prospects abroad (Europe)
Ukrainian prospects abroad (North America)


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It's worth keeping eye on Kirill Bondarenko who is on youth ranks of Traktor and made his U18 NT debut last spring as a sixteen year old. His stats on a very good Traktor team aren't that impressive, but at very least it's still nice to see that he has committed to Ukraine nice and early.

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Then there's also Olexander Polyanychka, who, at least according to his parents, is eligible to play for Ukraine. If I remember it correctly he also was between U18 candidates last spring (though with a wrongly listed first name), but was cut before tournament.

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Just an update on Pavlo Padakin after his first 2 games with the Calgary Hitmen of the WHL:

2gp 0g 1a 1p 2PIM -1

Not bad. Nice to see him sticking with the team so far.

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An update on Pavlo Padakin of the Calgary Hitmen:

9gp 1g 3a 4pts +2 4PIM

Not bad numbers for a rookie. Hopefully he can finish the season around 40 points. He's a good prospect and will likely play in the KHL one day, unless he goes to the ECHL/AHL upon CHL graduation.

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Unfortunately doesn't look like Donbass-98 kids are as good as they were touted. While being the best in Ukraine, they are being humbled week in week out in Moscow championship. You know you are in trouble when your best player is underage kid from Moldova

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Is anyone able to shed some light on Lysenko? He played for Russia last year in the U17s, is he still affiliated with Ukrainian hockey? Thanks in advance.

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Is anyone able to shed some light on Lysenko? He played for Russia last year in the U17s, is he still affiliated with Ukrainian hockey? Thanks in advance.
You kinda answered your own question, no? But technically it doesn't bind him to Russian programme just yet, but so wouldn't even a full IIHF tournament.

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well this crop sucked

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Olexander Toryanik
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player...gueid=&season=

tore up the PHL last year, only 23, runs **** on the national team

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Is anyone able to shed some light on Lysenko? He played for Russia last year in the U17s, is he still affiliated with Ukrainian hockey? Thanks in advance.
Did no he play for RUS U18 in Sochi?

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Olexander Toryanik
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player...gueid=&season=

tore up the PHL last year, only 23, runs **** on the national team
Yeah Toryanik seems to be the best Ukrainian prospect out there. I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the KHL next season.

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Padakin was 4th on the Hitmen for goals, I'll take that as a small victory. Maybe he develops further and turns into a decent player in Europe? Or wind up like Kvitchenko...


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Padakin was 4th on the Hitmen for goals, I'll take that as a small victory. Maybe he develops further and turns into a decent player in Europe? Or wind up like Kvitchenko...
What has Kvitchenko done wrong in your eyes? To me he still looks superiour to Padakin by a fair margin. This was Kvitchenko's first pro season, hard to expect him being a real player on KHL stage anyway. if Voskresensk would revive their VHL team, he would be a top6 contributor for them easily.

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At 23, I expected more than 1 assist in 25 games.

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At 23, I expected more than 1 assist in 25 games.
Mmm not from the 4th line. This year Donbass looks stacked again up front so the chance of him seeing pp time or even time on the 3rd line seems unlikely. I would project around 5 points for him unless he can battle his way up the depth chart and/or if injuries happen.

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What has Kvitchenko done wrong in your eyes? To me he still looks superiour to Padakin by a fair margin. This was Kvitchenko's first pro season, hard to expect him being a real player on KHL stage anyway. if Voskresensk would revive their VHL team, he would be a top6 contributor for them easily.
I like what I've seen from Kvitchenko in the few games I saw him play during the NHL lockout. I think with increased ice time he could eventually become a solid 3rd line contributor in the KHL. Players from weaker countries tend to develop at a slower pace. I think he'll hit his stride.

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well realistically, 3rd line KHL is like....ECHL quality, right?

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well realistically, 3rd line KHL is like....ECHL quality, right?
Probably closer to top 6 in the AHL. Not great, but still good for Ukrainian hockey.

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well realistically, 3rd line KHL is like....ECHL quality, right?
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Probably closer to top 6 in the AHL. Not great, but still good for Ukrainian hockey.
I think it's not wise to make such generalizations about the strength of leagues. Not only leagues need a bit different skillset to succeed in them, but also because KHL is league of great extremes - one team's leader is mere scrub on another roster.

Anyway Kvitchenko could of used full season of a lesser pro league than KHL. Two shifts per period (in every second game) is no good for a player who kinda projects as top six player (not necessarily a KHL top six player) in future.

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I think it's not wise to make such generalizations about the strength of leagues. Not only leagues need a bit different skillset to succeed in them, but also because KHL is league of great extremes - one team's leader is mere scrub on another roster.

Anyway Kvitchenko could of used full season of a lesser pro league than KHL. Two shifts per period (in every second game) is no good for a player who kinda projects as top six player (not necessarily a KHL top six player) in future.
That's true, but it probably wouldn't do him any good to play in the PHL. I think he'd be best suited for first line duty in the VHL, but Donbass doesn't have an affiliate.

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it probably wouldn't do him any good to play in the PHL. I think he'd be best suited for first line duty in the VHL, but Donbass doesn't have an affiliate.
I agree, not the best situation for his development.

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Might be good to get a list of all Uke prospects together.
2012-13
KHL:
Ignat Zemchenko - (Kyiv) - Cherepovets (41-6-4-10)

Canadian Hockey League:
Pavlo Padakin - (Kyiv) - Calgary (WHL) (70-22-16-38)
Vladislav Lysenko - (Kyiv) - Sherbrooke (QMJHL) (66-7-9-16)

MHL:
Vladislav Kutsevich - (Kyiv) - Kazan
Danylo Skripets - (Dnipropetrovsk) - Berdsk
Nikita Lisov - (Zaporizhia) - CSKA

PHL:
Olexander Toryanik - (Kharkiv) - Berkut
Ruslan Romashchenko Kompanion
Ivan Savchenko - (Kharkiv) - Kharkiv\

Other:
Olexander Polyanychka - (Lviv) - Czech league?
Kirill Bondarenko - Traktor youth (EP)

2013-14 (Confirmed roster spots)

KHL:
Maxym Kvitchenko - (Kyiv) - Donetsk

MHL:
Maxim Martyshko - (Kharkiv) - Donetsk
Viktor Zakharov - (Kyiv) - Donetsk
G: Mikhail Shevchuk - (Kharkiv) - Donetsk
A couple more additions to Donetsk (MHL) for 2013/14; according to Elite Prospects:

G Pavlo Yachnyk
F Yuri Petrangovsky
F Ruslan Romashenko

Hopefully there will be more Ukrainian additions to the team and that some will make big contributions to the team.

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yeah i left off ones i didnt figure were very notable / any upside

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yeah i left off ones i didnt figure were very notable / any upside
Petrangovsky scored more than any junior player in the PHL and played in the WC with the men's National Team as an 18 year old. He seems to have pretty good upside.

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