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A Song of Ice and Fire *SPOILERS* Part XII

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04-25-2016, 03:41 PM
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A Song of Ice and Fire *SPOILERS* Part XII

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So GRR says Bronn could take Legolas. If this is the case I think it's fair to say that 3 sand snakes can take a Balrog.

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Episode 2 looks to have a bit more violence and some interesting confrontations.

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When do we get to see The Crows Eye

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Can we please change the title of the thread to the Bad ***** edition?

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Man they made Areo go out like a *****

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I'll give credit where credit is due: they took a common fantasy trope with Mel and used it to symbolize her lost faith. The structure of the scene was also clever:

Night Watch Guy: We're ****ed, what do we do??
Davos: There's always the Red Woman..

(Audience thinks: Yeah, she can save them!)

Then the Crime appears. Very clever.

Otoh, I think D&D are blatantly trying to manipulate the audience into haring Ellaria + Sand Snakes...far too heavy handed IMO.

Someone said the theme was "female empowerment"... because nothing screams female empowerment like women acting irrational for the sake of the plot.

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Man they made Areo go out like a *****
Legit shouted "NO!" at my TV when that little **** stabbed him in the back

Couldn't believe they did that

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I think of they'd done a better job of showing Dorne in general being upset over Doran's "weakness" then the assassination would make more sense. As it is it just looks like a pissed off woman striking out in anger without any real plan. Unless since they're making Cersei a more sympathetic figure they need to make Ellaria the crazy *****? Maybe in the end it will all make sense, but as it is now it just reeks of bad writing.

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Next episode at the earliest... at the least, we'll get to see the Ironborn for the first time.

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Episode description for next week says we get to see Balon and the Iron Islands again so next week perhaps?

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I think of they'd done a better job of showing Dorne in general being upset over Doran's "weakness" then the assassination would make more sense. As it is it just looks like a pissed off woman striking out in anger without any real plan. Unless since they're making Cersei a more sympathetic figure they need to make Ellaria the crazy *****? Maybe in the end it will all make sense, but as it is now it just reeks of bad writing.
Way to much time in the water gardens last season. Should of been in Sunspear so we could get a sense of what Dorne as a whole was thinking.

I mean they obviously are thinking they want war and not Doran's choice of peace, but showing is much more effective than telling.

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When do we get to see the Tower of Joy?

Dorne is the worst.

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Dorne is the worst.
Episode description in episode 3 mentions Bran looking into the past.

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Episode description in episode 3 mentions Bran looking into the past.
Titled "Oathbreaker". Any ideas on who's breaking their oath? Jon? Sansa? Brienne?

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Titled "Oathbreaker". Any ideas on who's breaking their oath? Jon? Sansa? Brienne?
Heavy implications to Brienne. No reason why there couldn't be more though.

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Titled "Oathbreaker". Any ideas on who's breaking their oath? Jon? Sansa? Brienne?
Jon post-resurrection breaks his oath to the Nights Watch as he is no longer bound to the Wall after his death.

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Jon post-resurrection breaks his oath to the Nights Watch as he is no longer bound to the Wall after his death.
Is it really breaking his oath if he comes back from the dead though?

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Is it really breaking his oath if he comes back from the dead though?
That's my thought too. "His watch is ended".

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That's my thought too. "His watch is ended".
Isn't the body burning/burial ceremony where they say those words?

Maybe since that hasn't happened?

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Isn't the body burning/burial ceremony where they say those words?

Maybe since that hasn't happened?
It could bring up an interesting metaphysical argument on what truly determines the self and how it relates to the end a being's tenure in the Watch.

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It could bring up an interesting metaphysical argument on what truly determines the self and how it relates to the end a being's tenure in the Watch.
Methinks the Watch won't be around long enough to have a metaphysical argument.

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Methinks the Watch won't be around long enough to have a metaphysical argument.
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Way to much time in the water gardens last season. Should of been in Sunspear so we could get a sense of what Dorne as a whole was thinking.

I mean they obviously are thinking they want war and not Doran's choice of peace, but showing is much more effective than telling.
yeah, it would of hit the hammer way harder and perhaps ''justified'' the killing of Doran if we saw Sunspear and the people of Dorne clamoring for war what not. (Still.....)

but they had one week to film the scenes at the water garden and of course, $$$ implications for showing yet another location,


maybe episode three is about Brienne and what she has to do for Sansa. (Since we do see Brienne in castle black in the trailers!) Maybe Sansa sends Brienne to help out the Tullys in the Riverlands!

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Next two episodes in the north are going to be really interesting because so much hinges on Jon and what happens with him.

Right now no one outside of Castle Black knows Jon is dead. Sansa and company are heading there for amnesty.

Ramsey seems to figure this out next week as well so at least the contents of the Pink Letter will go into action (whether he actually sends the letter is another matter).

Thorne would hand Sansa over to Ramsey in a heart beat, she won't be safe there if Jon is still dead. Curious how this is going to work.

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