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Better Dekes: Datsyuk vs. Kovalev

View Poll Results: Who has the better dekes?
Pavel Datsyuk 123 62.12%
Alexei Kovalev 75 37.88%
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09-25-2012, 12:01 AM
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I'm sorry, but to me this seems like a no-brainer, Datsyuk AINEC.

Can any of you who voted Kovalev please post some video evidence? I mean he's got pretty good hands, but I've never seen anything from him comparable to Datsyuk.

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09-25-2012, 07:52 AM
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09-25-2012, 12:31 PM
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Kovalev. At his best there weren't many better than him.

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Kovalev continues to be supremely overrated.

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09-26-2012, 09:13 PM
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I think Kovalev had better moves, but Datsyuk is a lot more efficient.

When Datsyuk dekes around someone, there's a reason for it, that's probably the best path to net he can find in that instance. Kovy would just dangle through 3 guys because he felt like it, not because it was the best play to make.
This.

Datsyuk uses his moves to actually help his team win the game. He is far more creative and a much better all around player then Kovalev. But when Kovalev looked like he actually felt like playing the game, he dangled better then anyone IMO. He could literally make entire teams, including the goalie, look like 5 year olds without breaking a sweat.

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09-26-2012, 09:23 PM
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Hands down Alexei Kovalev...both Lemieux and Gretzky approve this message.

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09-27-2012, 07:38 AM
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I know it's not a deke, but I remember that play where Datsyuk was playing keep away along the boards, left the puck in place and kept using his stick to keep the defender from touching it. It's not only the quality of his dekes, it's the sheer amount of them he has in his repetoire. The dude is filthy.

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09-27-2012, 12:35 PM
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I know Dats is the most overrated player on this board but it seems like a lot of people have forgotten what Kovy could do when he wanted to.

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09-27-2012, 12:51 PM
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meh, Jagr was better than both.

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09-27-2012, 01:10 PM
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Datsyuk has incredible hands, better than anyone in the league now.

That said, Kovalev
Yep.
As good as Dats is, Kovalev (when he felt like it) was a level above.
That higher level has a lot to do with Kovalev's advantage in size and strength. He had access to all the tools Dats has and some tools that Dats doesn't.

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09-27-2012, 02:36 PM
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I would agree with the several posters here who all seem to be saying that Kovalev had better hands from a purely technical standpoint, but Datsyuk uses them more efficiently in game situations.

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09-27-2012, 02:38 PM
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I know it's not a deke, but I remember that play where Datsyuk was playing keep away along the boards, left the puck in place and kept using his stick to keep the defender from touching it. It's not only the quality of his dekes, it's the sheer amount of them he has in his repetoire. The dude is filthy.

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09-27-2012, 04:02 PM
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Kovalev's hands are overrated. It's like he gets extra points for "what could have been had he tried." Datsyuk is more creative and effective with his dekes.

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09-27-2012, 04:45 PM
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Really close, but I went with Datsyuk.

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09-30-2012, 01:44 AM
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kovalev might have the better hands,

but in game, datsyuk by a fair margin.

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As good as Dats is, Kovalev (when he felt like it) was a level above.
There's no such thing as "level above Datsyuk" when it comes to dekes.

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09-30-2012, 09:32 AM
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In games its Datsyuk


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09-30-2012, 10:22 AM
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Kovalev. You're not going to be able to find videos of what he did since his prime was in the mid/late 90s, so unless you watched him play, you won't be able to accurately assess his hands. That is no slight to Datsyuk, but the only person I would 100% take over Kovalev for dekes is Lemieux.

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09-30-2012, 03:08 PM
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How do you post clips? I have a few clips I want to post but I dont know how. Thanks guys.

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I love the "if he wanted to" line from Kovalev supporters...

Datsyuk just does.

See the difference?

You have no substantial evidence other than 'if he wanted to' which is blind rhetoric.

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I love the "if he wanted to" line from Kovalev supporters...

Datsyuk just does.

See the difference?

You have no substantial evidence other than 'if he wanted to' which is blind rhetoric.
exactly the same line is used by Datsyuk supporters when theres a statistic that doesent go his way......

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I love the "if he wanted to" line from Kovalev supporters...

Datsyuk just does.

See the difference?

You have no substantial evidence other than 'if he wanted to' which is blind rhetoric.
You know why they say that? Because they watched Kovalev play. They watched him play terribly, but they also watched him embarrass the league whenever he felt like it, or when "he wanted to".

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exactly the same line is used by Datsyuk supporters when theres a statistic that doesent go his way......
Too bad this isn't a statistic though and you can see the evidence with your eyeballs. I prefer the guy that routinely dekes NHL players over the guy that likes to show off my owning pylons

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