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09-24-2012, 11:24 AM
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Danny Briere

Curious to see what Philly would want in return for Danny. Obviously they need D and Buffalo has a bit of a logjam at the position. Danny is my favorite Sabre ever and I'd love remember him in a jersey other than Flyer's Orange or the Buffaslug. I think he'd provide the perfect stopgap Center we need to stay competitive over the next couple years, while also mentoring our hoard of young centers, Ennis especially. For now, lets just forget his NTC for the sake of discussion, although I think if he were to waive it for any team, it would be Buf.

Buffalo offers:
TJ Brennan (Ready to step in, solid top 4 potential) + Luke Adam+
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Sekera pretty much straight up. Swiss army knife D-man, young, great contract. Maybe a small+ here.

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09-24-2012, 11:28 AM
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Haven't we been over this a dozen times already? Briere has a NMC and he's not going to waive it. His ex and he have shared custody of their kids, so he's not going to leave Philadelphia because he wants to remain near his children.

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Haven't we been over this a dozen times already? Briere has a NMC and he's not going to waive it. His ex and he have shared custody of their kids, so he's not going to leave Philadelphia because he wants to remain near his children.
Dude this is hypothetical, you should read the whole post before replying. This is called a discussion board for a reason.

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Dude this is hypothetical, you should read the whole post before replying. This is called a discussion board for a reason.
Kinda hard to do that with the kid situation. No hypothetical there.

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If the flyers are sucking at the deadline, then something around sekera gets my attention for sure.

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We've had a ton of Philly/Briere/Buffalo threads. They usually devolve into arguing over whether Danny would waive for Buffalo, and discussions about his ex-wife and custody arrangements. He probably isn't waiving given his personal situation, Philly's a contender, and he's their best postseason scorer, so they probably wouldn't move him.

And a package centered Brennan + Adam doesn't come close. Brennan is not likely to be anything more than a depth defenseman at the NHL level, and Adam's stock plummeted last season, so it'd benefit Buffalo to hold on to him for now because he's better than he showed in the second half last year.

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09-24-2012, 12:51 PM
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To Vancouver
Daniel Briere

To Philadelphia
Keith Ballard
Nicklas Jensen
2013 2nd

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Keith Ballard
Nicklas Jensen
2013 2nd
eek, giving $6M+ x 3+ years to an aging forward is ok when its powerforward Shane Doan, not when its smallish injury prone Briere AND it costs assets.

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eek, giving $6M+ x 3+ years to an aging forward is ok when its powerforward Shane Doan, not when its smallish injury prone Briere AND it costs assets.
Look at Doan's playoff resume, then look at Briere's playoff resume...if I'm the Canucks, Danny Briere is at the top of the list of players to target.

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eek, giving $6M+ x 3+ years to an aging forward is ok when its powerforward Shane Doan, not when its smallish injury prone Briere AND it costs assets.
Briere has played 70+ games the past the three seasons, he's no Sami Salo, and his playoff resume speaks for itself.

Booth-Kesler-Briere. Imagine it come June

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Briere is thinking about playing over seas. I think we can safely say he would and can be traded with his approval. I don't think his kids will be going over seas with him when he signs there, so he can be traded. I just don't think the Flyers want to move him.

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Buffalo needs more centers lol. Want Horcoff?

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How many times must I interject that he would likely waive to go back to buffalo as he loves the city. Custody agreement is nowhere near as crazy as it seems

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Buffalo needs more centers lol. Want Horcoff?
We've been over this before: No.

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This has been gone over on these boards about a hundred times. We already have a younger, cheaper player similar to Briere in Ennis anyway. We don't need more small, skilled players; if we did, we would've just kept Roy. What we need more at C is a reliable two-way/defensive player. I loved Danny B in Buffalo, but that ship sailed a long time ago.

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Briere is thinking about playing over seas. I think we can safely say he would and can be traded with his approval. I don't think his kids will be going over seas with him when he signs there, so he can be traded. I just don't think the Flyers want to move him.
A few months away from his kids is not the same as moving away for the remainder of his contract.

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Curious to see what Philly would want in return for Danny.
You had me interested here....


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Obviously they need D


Aaaaaand you lost me here. Flyers D will be fine, and even better if the lockout goes for awhile, then Meszaros will return healthy.

Grossmann - Coburn
Timonen - Schenn
Lilja/Gervais/Lauridsen/Manning/Gustafsson/Bourdon - Meszaros

Neither Sekera or Brennan would immediately crack our healthy top 4

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You had me interested here....






Aaaaaand you lost me here. Flyers D will be fine, and even better if the lockout goes for awhile, then Meszaros will return healthy.

Grossmann - Coburn
Timonen - Schenn
Lilja/Gervais/Lauridsen/Manning/Gustafsson/Bourdon - Meszaros

Neither Sekera or Brennan would immediately crack our healthy top 4
Sekera wouldn't crack your top 4, but Schenn would.

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I like Grossman but I must have missed when he became a bonafied top 2 dman who would knock sekera to a bottom pairing role...

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I like Grossman but I must have missed when he became a bonafied top 2 dman who would knock sekera to a bottom pairing role...
That poster also said that the Flyers defense would be fine.


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That poster also said that the Flyers defense would be fine.
I think what the poster meant was that the kind of defenseman the Flyers could get for Briere (e.g., Ballard, Sekera) is not going to fix their defensive problems. On paper, they have a solid group of top-4 defenseman, but they lack a true #1.

[Pronger]
Coburn
Timonen
[Mesaros]
Grossmann
Schenn
Gus / MAB / etc.

As to the pairings, he was taking his best guess based on last season--not necessarily listing the defenseman in order of skill. Grossmann functioned pretty well with Coburn, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them together. Schenn has played well with a veteran, PMD in the past (Kaberle), so Timonen makes sense.

He wasn't saying Grossmann is our best defenseman, or that Schenn is better than Meszaros (which he probably isn't right now).

All the acquisition of someone like Sekera would do is bump Schenn to the 3rd pairing--which probably improves the overall line-up, but not enough to make it worthwhile to move Briere (and I'm far from his biggest fan).

If I'm the Flyers, and I'm moving Briere, I'd be far more interested in acquiring a stud defensive prospect than another second pairing defenseman.



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I think what the poster meant was that the kind of defenseman the Flyers could get for Briere (e.g., Ballard, Sekera) is not going to fix their defensive problems. On paper, they have a solid group of top-4 defenseman, but they lack a true #1.

[Pronger]
Coburn
Timonen
[Mesaros]
Grossmann
Schenn
Gus / MAB / etc.

As to the pairings, he was taking his best guess based on last season--not necessarily listing the defenseman in order of skill. Grossmann functioned pretty well with Coburn, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them together. Schenn has played well with a veteran, PMD in the past (Kaberle), so Timonen makes sense.

He wasn't saying Grossmann is our best defenseman, or that Schenn is better than Meszaros (which he probably isn't right now).

All the acquisition of someone like Sekera would do is bump Schenn to the 3rd pairing--which probably improves the overall line-up, but not enough to make it worthwhile to move Briere (and I'm far from his biggest fan).

If I'm the Flyers, and I'm moving Briere, I'd be far more interested in acquiring a stud defensive prospect than another second pairing defenseman.

I see your point, but unless Briere is in a package, I don't think he fetches a stud on D.

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I think what the poster meant was that the kind of defenseman the Flyers could get for Briere (e.g., Ballard, Sekera) is not going to fix their defensive problems. On paper, they have a solid group of top-4 defenseman, but they lack a true #1.

[Pronger]
Coburn
Timonen
[Mesaros]
Grossmann
Schenn
Gus / MAB / etc.

As to the pairings, he was taking his best guess based on last season--not necessarily listing the defenseman in order of skill. Grossmann functioned pretty well with Coburn, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them together. Schenn has played well with a veteran, PMD in the past (Kaberle), so Timonen makes sense.

He wasn't saying Grossmann is our best defenseman, or that Schenn is better than Meszaros (which he probably isn't right now).

All the acquisition of someone like Sekera would do is bump Schenn to the 3rd pairing--which probably improves the overall line-up, but not enough to make it worthwhile to move Briere (and I'm far from his biggest fan).

If I'm the Flyers, and I'm moving Briere, I'd be far more interested in acquiring a stud defensive prospect than another second pairing defenseman.


Wonderfully said.

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I think what the poster meant was that the kind of defenseman the Flyers could get for Briere (e.g., Ballard, Sekera) is not going to fix their defensive problems. On paper, they have a solid group of top-4 defenseman, but they lack a true #1.

[Pronger]
Coburn
Timonen
[Mesaros]
Grossmann
Schenn
Gus / MAB / etc.

As to the pairings, he was taking his best guess based on last season--not necessarily listing the defenseman in order of skill. Grossmann functioned pretty well with Coburn, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them together. Schenn has played well with a veteran, PMD in the past (Kaberle), so Timonen makes sense.

He wasn't saying Grossmann is our best defenseman, or that Schenn is better than Meszaros (which he probably isn't right now).

All the acquisition of someone like Sekera would do is bump Schenn to the 3rd pairing--which probably improves the overall line-up, but not enough to make it worthwhile to move Briere (and I'm far from his biggest fan).

If I'm the Flyers, and I'm moving Briere, I'd be far more interested in acquiring a stud defensive prospect than another second pairing defenseman.

I doubt that Briere could bring back a defensive prospect like that.

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I doubt that Briere could bring back a defensive prospect like that.
I'm not sure he could either--but there's no reason for the Flyers to move him for a 2nd/3rd pairing depth.

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