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09-25-2012, 05:36 PM
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wow the posters over reacting about this are just being tools, its not like hes coming back to play for us, hes a goaltending consultant. Usually the worse the player the better the coach so this is a good move
This sounds hilarious, but I can see some truth in it.

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09-25-2012, 05:40 PM
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wow the posters over reacting about this are just being tools, its not like hes coming back to play for us, hes a goaltending consultant. Usually the worse the player the better the coach so this is a good move
Snap... you're right.

Screw Clouts, lets bring back Martin Brochu to rear our young goalies.

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09-25-2012, 05:48 PM
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wow the posters over reacting about this are just being tools, its not like hes coming back to play for us, hes a goaltending consultant. Usually the worse the player the better the coach so this is a good move
"Those who can't, teach."?

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09-25-2012, 06:20 PM
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Interesting decision...but I guess he's got some experience. He's been a goalie coach for a team in the OHL for a couple of years now, hasn't he?
I wonder if there is some money issues similar to Messiers and the Cunucks did this to shut him up.

I guess Clouts didn't save any of his money either.

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09-25-2012, 06:31 PM
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I wonder if there is some money issues similar to Messiers and the Cunucks did this to shut him up.

I guess Clouts didn't save any of his money either.
You probably guessed wrong although I'm not Cloutier's accountant so I don't know for sure.

I know Cloutier used to own a condo in the Concord (which has seen its value almost double since he bought it) which he sold in the last couple of years, it was worth $2M - $4M...

He also owns a condo in the Crestmark II building which he rents to Canucks for several thousand a month...

He's probably doing okay based on my very limited knowledge of his finances alone.

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09-25-2012, 06:47 PM
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Am I completely insane, or was Cloutier not altogether terrible in his last season? Don't get me wrong, he's not as good as Luongo, but to my mind his biggest problem was that whenever he started to pick up his game, he would get hurt.

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09-25-2012, 06:55 PM
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Did you guys forget that Cloutier actually stuck around the NHL for a while (for better or worse)? If we're talking coach cred here, Clouts is way ahead of most coaches out there.

Did Allaire even play a single professional game?

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09-25-2012, 07:05 PM
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I always feel bad for Cloutier. Yes, he was objectively terrible goaltender, but when I look over at the modern Maple Leafs, its obvious Brian Burke was incapable of creating a goaltending environmental that wasn't dysfunctional. What Lombardi did to him was super dick, too, and I wonder how Clouts career would have gone with a good support system.


Anyways, no problem with him moving into a consultation role for the Canucks org. He's seen what dysfunction looks like and knows the pitfalls.


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I wonder if there is some money issues similar to Messiers and the Cunucks did this to shut him up.

I guess Clouts didn't save any of his money either.
Or maybe the Canucks like him as an alumni and think he can contribute.

Un-freaking-believable. Just because a player didn't work out for us doesn't automatically make him the devil. Leave the character assassination for Ron Maclean.

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09-25-2012, 07:10 PM
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its hard to forgive cloutier when the canucks had the west coast express and promptly fizzled out in round 1 or 2 of the playoffs, every single year

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09-25-2012, 07:12 PM
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I wonder if there is some money issues similar to Messiers and the Canucks did this to shut him up.

I guess Clouts didn't save any of his money either.
1. I can't see him getting a clause like Messier. That was a one off.

2. He was LAs guy when his career broke down not ours.

3. No talk of money issues surrounding Cloutier that I know of.

4. If you were doing him a favour you'd stick him somewhere else, like goalie scout, or some office job.

5. There wouldn't be too many people left in management/ownership that were around when he was here.

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1. We need someone who can fight of Ottawa's goalie prospect Lehner. Clouts can teach those skills.

2. "Watch Clouts closely. Now do the opposite"

3. He's probably a decent goalie coach that comes cheap.

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09-25-2012, 07:37 PM
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I always feel bad for Cloutier. Yes, he was objectively terrible goaltender, but when I look over at the modern Maple Leafs, its obvious Brian Burke was incapable of creating a goaltending environmental that wasn't dysfunctional. What Lombardi did to him was super dick, too, and I wonder how Clouts career would have gone with a good support system.
Yeah,can't get much worse than playing with a torn labrum then getting shipped off to a motel 1+ hour away from the clinic while you await surgery...

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09-25-2012, 07:38 PM
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The only reason Cloutier managed to be respectable in some parts of his NHL career was due to the amount of coaching he soaked in and put into use during games... if he was just average in that aspect, his talent (or there lack of) would have prevented him from finding success even in the AHL

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09-25-2012, 08:39 PM
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Most NHL goalie coaches were average pros at best, save a few exceptions. Dan Cloutier could be an excellent coach.

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09-25-2012, 08:44 PM
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At first I was like:
TSN must be Trolling...


Then when it set in I was like:


There was a thread recently on the main board about when was the last time you were embarassed to be a fan of your team... well today makes a new benchmark.

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09-25-2012, 09:08 PM
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I'm happy for him, I was upset as any Canuck fan during his tenure, with my peek happening during the Wild comeback and upset. I never wanted to see his name near a Canucks sweater ever again.

But that's in the past, and by all accounts he's a great team guy, and even better person.

The Gillis run Canucks wouldn't hire someone out of pity. If I recall he was helping with the prospects earlier this summer, perhaps the management liked what they saw.

I feel so bad that he was booed during Naslund's retirement ceremony, deserved or not, that was not the time to do it.

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09-25-2012, 09:10 PM
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Great players don't usually make great coaches. Gretzky, Mike Singletary and Magic Johnson all have losing records coaching.

His playing ability has nothing to do with his coaching ability. Look at AV's playing career. Very few coaches had great playing careers.

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09-25-2012, 09:14 PM
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Good thing he's not between the pipes lmao

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Probably gonna put on the pads during practice to help our guys in the shootout

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09-25-2012, 09:47 PM
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Remember how Kirk Maclean was a great goal-tending coach for the Avalanche?

Wait, no, he wasn't. Because playing ability doesn't necessarily say anything about coaching ability.

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Good for Dan, Hopefully he can bring something new to the table... other than getting scored on from center.

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09-25-2012, 10:01 PM
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Hopefully he stays away from our goailies

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Hopefully he stays away from our goailies
Just like how Newell 'never in the NHL' Brown shouldn't get near our PP, amirite?

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09-25-2012, 10:34 PM
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This thread exposes a lot of stupidity within our fanbase. Cloutier being a bad goalie has ZERO bearing on his ability to coach, or work with players.

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09-25-2012, 10:49 PM
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Glad to see he gets a job with the organization. Always liked him as a person.

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