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09-25-2012, 11:44 PM
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Worst Drafting team in the NHL

Me and my friend (a Leaf fan) were discussing this today. Toronto was one of the first ones since they have nearly nobody they've drafted and developed, but they actually have a few decent ones they gave up on too quickly. We decided it had to be the Isles since, other than Tavares, they have so many busts/disappointments and poor prospects at the top of the draft, even though they've drafted a fair portion of their team. Who's it in your mind? (And please don't turn this into a pissing contest if your team gets mentioned)

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Columbus AINEC.

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Florida was rather miserable up until recently. Just look at how many early round picks they flubbed. As mentioned, Columbus deserves a mention as well. Minnesota has had their share of duds too.

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Leafs are more a culprit of trading away their 1st round picks and subsequently their high-end prospects.

For a team who is poor at drafting and developing, look no further than the Columbus Blue Jackets.

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Minnesota and Columbus come to mind.

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Columbus AINEC.
I immediately thought of CBJ.

Vancouver is pretty bad, but not as bad considering CBJ gets top picks.

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Wild were about as bad as you can get from 2004-2008. Then we traded away our 2009 1st rd pick (Leddy) for nothing. The 2010 and 2011 drafts look promising though.

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CBJ have gotten better in my mind

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New York Islanders. Shocked nobody has put them yet.

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Calgary.

1997-2007 they drafted two good NHL'ers. Three if you count Stoll.

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Me and my friend (a Leaf fan) were discussing this today. Toronto was one of the first ones since they have nearly nobody they've drafted and developed, but they actually have a few decent ones they gave up on too quickly. We decided it had to be the Isles since, other than Tavares, they have so many busts/disappointments and poor prospects at the top of the draft, even though they've drafted a fair portion of their team. Who's it in your mind? (And please don't turn this into a pissing contest if your team gets mentioned)
What? The Islanders have gotten top marks drafting for years and have one of the top prospects groups in the entire league. You and your friend need to research this because you really don't know what you're talking about. And don't think I am saying this because I am some biased Islanders fanatic it is just true.

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New York Islanders. Shocked nobody has put them yet.
Cause we've actually drafted pretty damn good as of late? Our farm system is looking pretty nice.

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Wild were about as bad as you can get from 2004-2008. Then we traded away our 2009 1st rd pick (Leddy) for nothing. The 2010 and 2011 drafts look promising though.
Yup. This, CBJ, Calgary, Toronto and Florida if we are judging by the past decade or so.

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Calgary.

1997-2007 they drafted two good NHL'ers. Three if you count Stoll.
Oh yes, they should be right near the top of the list. Columbus messing up so many early picks takes the cake. Calgary just drafts and develops poorly.

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Leafs aren't even in this discussion. Terrible asset management does not imply terrible drafting.

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Tampa Bay is pretty miserable aside from a few obvious picks in Hedman and Stamkos. Other than that, you have to go back a looong way to Lecalvier, Richards, Kubina and Gratton. Not much else has come out of there.

I think CBJ has developed a few decent players. Some were freebies. But I think they have more recent, competent players than Tampa.

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Edmonton has had a pretty ****** record. Barry Fraser. A king for two years, a turd for the rest. Don't even make me bring up Prendergast. Holy cow.

Calgary has been extremely **** as well.

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Me and my friend (a Leaf fan) were discussing this today. Toronto was one of the first ones since they have nearly nobody they've drafted and developed, but they actually have a few decent ones they gave up on too quickly. We decided it had to be the Isles since, other than Tavares, they have so many busts/disappointments and poor prospects at the top of the draft, even though they've drafted a fair portion of their team. Who's it in your mind? (And please don't turn this into a pissing contest if your team gets mentioned)
you need to give more criteria

right now I am actual doing this

last 15 years
breaking down by
-How many made the nhl
-Games played
-goals-assists--pts
-w-l-t for goalies
Wins and loses by the team

I am about half way through it and my oilers are way down the list still

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Flames, CBJ, Oilers, Canucks possibly, Lightning but in a few years maybe not.

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New Jersey has been horrible for a long time other than a few homeruns (Parise, Zajac, Henrique, Larsson).

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Columbus AINEC.
Developing? Yes, easily.

Drafting? Maybe not.

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Developing? Yes, easily.

Drafting? Maybe not.
What's the criteria for distinguishing the two? How do we ever find out for certain?

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Me and my friend (a Leaf fan) were discussing this today. Toronto was one of the first ones since they have nearly nobody they've drafted and developed, but they actually have a few decent ones they gave up on too quickly. We decided it had to be the Isles since, other than Tavares, they have so many busts/disappointments and poor prospects at the top of the draft, even though they've drafted a fair portion of their team. Who's it in your mind? (And please don't turn this into a pissing contest if your team gets mentioned)
Toronto doesn't belong in this thread.

Just looking at the draft from 2006 to 2010...

Jiri Tlusty - 3rd line NHL forward
Nikolai Kulemin - 2nd/3rd line NHL forward
James Reimer - NHL goaltender
Korbinian Holzer - NHL'er in 2012/13
Viktor Stalberg - 2nd line NHL forward
Leo Komarov - NHL'er in 2012/13
Carl Gunnarsson - 2nd pairing NHL defenceman
Matt Frattin - 3rd line NHL forward (top 6 upside)
Luke Schenn - 2nd pairing NHL defenceman
Jimmy Hayes - 3rd line NHL forward (top 6 upside)
Nazem Kadri - 3rd line NHL forward (top 6 upside)
Jesse Blacker - 1-2 years away (2nd pairing upside)
Jerry D'Amigo - 1-2 years away (2nd/3rd line upside)
Brad Ross - 2-3 years away (3rd line upside)

At worst, that puts them in the middle of the pack.


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Toronto doesn't belong in this thread.

Just looking at the draft from 2006 to 2010...

Jiri Tlusty - 3rd line NHL forward
Nikolai Kulemin - 2nd/3rd line NHL forward
James Reimer - NHL goaltender
Korbinian Holzer - NHL'er in 2012/13
Viktor Stalberg - 2nd line NHL forward
Leo Komarov - NHL'er in 2012/13
Carl Gunnarsson - 2nd pairing NHL defenceman
Matt Frattin - 3rd line NHL forward (top 6 upside)
Luke Schenn - 2nd pairing NHL defenceman
Jimmy Hayes - 3rd line NHL forward (top 6 upside)
Nazem Kadri - 3rd line NHL forward (top 6 upside)
Jesse Blacker - 1-2 years away (2nd pairing upside)
Jerry D'Amigo - 1-2 years away (2nd/3rd line upside)
Brad Ross - 2-3 years away (3rd line upside)

At worst, that puts them in the middle of the pack.
That's not a very glowing list. There are about 8 names on there who have yet to become NHLers (and there is no guarantee there), and there is another handful of players listed that the Leafs dealt because they didn't live up to expectations or because they just got rid of 'em too soon, and who's to say how some of those players would have turned out had they stayed in Toronto.

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