HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk Trade rumors, transactions, and free agent talk. Rumors must contain the word RUMOR in post title. Proposals must contain the word PROPOSAL in post title.

Your veteran defencemen to EDM

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
09-27-2012, 08:57 AM
  #51
tempest2i
Myxomatosis
 
tempest2i's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Cowtown
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,198
vCash: 500
I would be ok with bringing in Kaberle if the Oilers could ship out equal AAV going the other way. Otherwise, taking on that contract looks like bad cap management.

Can I interest you in a slightly gimpy Ryan Whitney?

tempest2i is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 09:18 AM
  #52
thadd
Oil4Life
 
thadd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: China
Country: Canada
Posts: 15,934
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to thadd
Quote:
Originally Posted by Perro View Post
Mid Season if LA needs a shake up:

Greene for Teemu H.

I feel sick typing that...it's the bordom of no league.. I take it back.
No thanks. Teemu is the roughest toughest forward we've got in our system and he's shown enough offensive upside to have me convinced that he'll be an awesome third liner.

thadd is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 09:30 AM
  #53
thadd
Oil4Life
 
thadd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: China
Country: Canada
Posts: 15,934
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to thadd
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrb1p View Post
That's why they don't need the flashy puck mover anymore.
So you're saying that Schultz has proven himself before playing a game in the NHL or that Whitney is going to be at his best?

Past Petry and Smid, Edmonton's blueline is full of question marks.

If Edmonton traded for a d-man, they'd certainly be trading one away. There's no way around that. Who's on 1-way deals right now?

Smid
Petry
Whitney
Schultz(N)
Schultz(J)
Sutton
Peckham
Potter

Yes, Peckham and Potter shouldn't be in the NHL. Potter is a good option for a 2nd PP unit and nothing else past that and Peckham has seemed to take a step back over the past season... but the fact is that we've got too many d-men on 1-way deals as it is.

thadd is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 10:03 AM
  #54
Philly85
Moody'
 
Philly85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 12,096
vCash: 500
Quite honestly I don't even think the Oilers need a "veteran" D-man. They already have Smid, Schultz and Whitney there. What they could use is another strong top 4 D to push one of those 3 guys they already have into a bottom pairing role.

Philly85 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 10:26 AM
  #55
CupofOil
Registered User
 
CupofOil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Rock Bottom
Country: United States
Posts: 13,674
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nuge View Post
I don't even know where to begin with this... It's just so backwards... To start, the Oilers don't need a gritty leader on the blueline. They need a flashy puck mover... Kinda like that Schultz kid they just signed
Not sure if serious.

The Oilers need a gritty defenseman DESPERATELY. Smid and N. Schultz are solid defensively but they aren't very gritty (Smid is more of a shot blocking, hold position defensively type, not really that physical), Petry can throw some hits here and there but he's primarily a puckmover, Peckham and Sutton are very gritty but they are barely NHL players. As far as puckmovers are concerned, the Oilers have Petry, Whitney and J. Schultz to take care of that. The Oilers don't have one defenseman who i would consider consistently gritty, it's actually a huge weakness which really shows out against teams like the Kings, Blues and Coyotes.

I would be all over acquiring somebody like Regehr, Boychuk or even Volchenkov even though he has lost a step or two. Boychuk is the guy who i'd be most interested in of that group since Regehr likely isn't available, what do Bruins fans want for him?

I would be all for acquiring a top 4 puckmover as well but the Oilers could use a physical, veteran top 4 guy more than anything else IMO.

CupofOil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 12:46 PM
  #56
MasterDecoy
Carlos Danger
 
MasterDecoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Beijing
Posts: 9,876
vCash: 1707
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceonfire View Post
Are you throwing in the 2nd for Komi to offset the cap hit lol?

Its sad really, he used to be so respected. Not sure what happened to the guy.
no more markov and whole lot of lucic is what happened to the guy

MasterDecoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 12:51 PM
  #57
Security Guard Chang*
Chang's Army
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Greendale
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,853
vCash: 500
Chris Phillips for Martin Marcinin plus 3rd?

not that Phillips will ever be traded , hes a lifer

Security Guard Chang* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 02:14 PM
  #58
Zippy316
Registered User
 
Zippy316's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 3,976
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CupofOil View Post
Not sure if serious.

The Oilers need a gritty defenseman DESPERATELY. Smid and N. Schultz are solid defensively but they aren't very gritty (Smid is more of a shot blocking, hold position defensively type, not really that physical), Petry can throw some hits here and there but he's primarily a puckmover, Peckham and Sutton are very gritty but they are barely NHL players. As far as puckmovers are concerned, the Oilers have Petry, Whitney and J. Schultz to take care of that. The Oilers don't have one defenseman who i would consider consistently gritty, it's actually a huge weakness which really shows out against teams like the Kings, Blues and Coyotes.

I would be all over acquiring somebody like Regehr, Boychuk or even Volchenkov even though he has lost a step or two. Boychuk is the guy who i'd be most interested in of that group since Regehr likely isn't available, what do Bruins fans want for him?

I would be all for acquiring a top 4 puckmover as well but the Oilers could use a physical, veteran top 4 guy more than anything else IMO.
Volchenkov for Paajarvi.

Win-win.

Zippy316 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 02:36 PM
  #59
Minor Boarding
Registered User
 
Minor Boarding's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Corleone
Posts: 1,341
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Perro View Post
Mid Season if LA needs a shake up:

Greene for Teemu H.

I feel sick typing that...it's the bordom of no league.. I take it back.
This should cover my thoughts:


Also there is no opening spot for him (Hell Cliffords spot in the regular lineup might be in jeopardy).

Minor Boarding is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 02:45 PM
  #60
Cogburn
Registered User
 
Cogburn's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Vancouver
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,735
vCash: 50
Andrew Alberts. Here in Vancouver he has earned that 6/7 spot, but with kids coming up....we don't really need him anymore. I think he was suppossed to develop into more in his time here, but he's been steady and at least reliable as a replacement Dman. 1.225 cap hit for one more year, clears the net pretty well, hits big, sound defensively and he is slow. Not so slow he's a liability, but when physicality and grit are your primary offerings in our system, we need big speed with the big hits.

He seems to fit the bill, and honestly he could be had very inexpensively.

Cogburn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 03:09 PM
  #61
huntison
Registered User
 
huntison's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 3,584
vCash: 500
Ballard.

huntison is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 04:24 PM
  #62
rockinghockey
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 6,402
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by vannzee View Post
Kaberle and Robidas are good vet options.
Kaberle is not a good option, he has negative value, even when he played for TO I never liked him.

rockinghockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 04:29 PM
  #63
rockinghockey
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 6,402
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by SupermanPahlsson View Post
Let's say it's Toni Lydman+ for Sam Gagner, what else would it take from the Ducks side for Edmonton to pull the trigger?
Lydman would be a good dman to have but he only has a few years left and is not worth giving Gagner up as we would need a 2nd line centreman to replace him. I would take Lydman for a draft pick that is about it.

rockinghockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 04:41 PM
  #64
rockinghockey
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 6,402
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by couture23 View Post
Jordan Leopold and Luke Adam or draft pick for Sam Ganger.
I like Gagner a lot more than Adams and Leopold is not the type of dman we need.

rockinghockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 04:42 PM
  #65
rockinghockey
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 6,402
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zippy316 View Post
Volchenkov for Paajarvi.
Volchenkov has drop his play off too much to give up PRV.

rockinghockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 04:43 PM
  #66
rockinghockey
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 6,402
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by vannzee View Post
Kaberle and Robidas are good vet options.
Kaberle is a terrible vet option and Robidas is not the type of dman this team needs.

rockinghockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 04:49 PM
  #67
rockinghockey
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 6,402
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Viqsi View Post
Not to Toronto. I don't think their blueline can take that kind of hit.



This is, regardless, an excellent way to troll both fanbases.



Smid's 26. I don't think he counts as an experienced vet. Whitney's in his 20s as well.

Schultz just turned 30 one month ago, but he at least has ten years' experience.


As for the Jackets... we picked up our vet blueline mentor during the offseason, with Aucoin. We kinda need him.

It is not all about age Smid has been with the Oilers since 06 and is a leader on this team. Whitney when healthy is a legit top 2 dman.

rockinghockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 04:51 PM
  #68
rockinghockey
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 6,402
vCash: 500
If our dmen can play healthy we are set up pretty good as long as players play to their abilities.
Whitney, N. Schultz
Petry, Smid
Schultz,(this is where we need that shut down dman that is a top 4 dman as Whitney always gets hurt)
Sutton

rockinghockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 04:52 PM
  #69
rockinghockey
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 6,402
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by tempest2i View Post
I would be ok with bringing in Kaberle if the Oilers could ship out equal AAV going the other way. Otherwise, taking on that contract looks like bad cap management.

Can I interest you in a slightly gimpy Ryan Whitney?
I would take Whitney over Kaberle any day and Whitney only has 1 yr left on his contract.

rockinghockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 04:53 PM
  #70
Clipitar
Registered User
 
Clipitar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,383
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by rockinghockey View Post
Kaberle is not a good option, he has negative value, even when he played for TO I never liked him.
Quote:
Originally Posted by rockinghockey View Post
Kaberle is a terrible vet option and Robidas is not the type of dman this team needs.
I think your point was understood the first time...

Clipitar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 04:53 PM
  #71
rockinghockey
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 6,402
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by thadd View Post
So you're saying that Schultz has proven himself before playing a game in the NHL or that Whitney is going to be at his best?

Past Petry and Smid, Edmonton's blueline is full of question marks.

If Edmonton traded for a d-man, they'd certainly be trading one away. There's no way around that. Who's on 1-way deals right now?

Smid
Petry
Whitney
Schultz(N)
Schultz(J)
Sutton
Peckham
Potter

Yes, Peckham and Potter shouldn't be in the NHL. Potter is a good option for a 2nd PP unit and nothing else past that and Peckham has seemed to take a step back over the past season... but the fact is that we've got too many d-men on 1-way deals as it is.
N Schultz is a proven top 4 dman also. We have 3 dmen that we can trust on at this point

rockinghockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 04:54 PM
  #72
Prairie Habs
Registered User
 
Prairie Habs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 3,307
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by rockinghockey View Post
Kaberle is not a good option, he has negative value, even when he played for TO I never liked him.
Quote:
Originally Posted by rockinghockey View Post
Lydman would be a good dman to have but he only has a few years left and is not worth giving Gagner up as we would need a 2nd line centreman to replace him. I would take Lydman for a draft pick that is about it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by rockinghockey View Post
I like Gagner a lot more than Adams and Leopold is not the type of dman we need.
Quote:
Originally Posted by rockinghockey View Post
Volchenkov has drop his play off too much to give up PRV.
Quote:
Originally Posted by rockinghockey View Post
Kaberle is a terrible vet option and Robidas is not the type of dman this team needs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by rockinghockey View Post
It is not all about age Smid has been with the Oilers since 06 and is a leader on this team. Whitney when healthy is a legit top 2 dman.
Seriously? 6 in a row? You even quoted the same post twice.

Learn to love the multi-quote

Edit: now 8 in a row and 9 of 10. New highscore.

Prairie Habs is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 04:56 PM
  #73
rockinghockey
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 6,402
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by huntison View Post
Ballard.
Ballard has gone down hill since playing for VAN. Not going to help VAN by taking Ballard off their hands.

rockinghockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 04:56 PM
  #74
rockinghockey
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 6,402
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prairie Habs View Post
Seriously? 6 in a row? You even quoted the same post twice.

Learn to love the multi-quote

Edit: now 8 in a row and 9 of 10. New highscore.
I work for a living suck it up.

rockinghockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 05:45 PM
  #75
couture23
Sabres & Red Sox
 
couture23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: GTA/Ottawa
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,997
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by tsujimoto74 View Post
Pass. Gagner is not what Buffalo needs at center, and Leopold logs a lot of minutes for us that would not be easy to replace. We already have 2 young defensively deficient centermen; if we wanted a center like Gagner, we could've kept Roy.
Oh, I wouldn't do it as a Sabres fan either myself I just said something that was related to the thread as in Leopold being a veteran defenceman.

couture23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:12 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.