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01-30-2005, 08:55 PM
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Blake, Zhitnik, Sydor, and...

Remember back in tha day when we had 4 "blue-chip" prospects back on D. I remember these three...but who was the fourth?

I seem to have forgotten. I know he didn't do much or make it anywhere though.

or is my memory just messed up...thx

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I'm not sure who you're talking about unless it's Wayne McBean. He was gone before we had all three of those guys together though.

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Justin Hocking?

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They were fairly high on brent Thompson, doubt it was him though

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Couldn't be Berg, he was too late of an acquisiton, right?

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I'm thinking Elvi might be right with Hocking.



Edit: Maybe it was willie with Thompson? Bah, you know what I meant.


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It was Brent Thompson. He was going to be the tough one of the group. Remember they went into a game with the top two dmen hurt, then in the game two more got hurt. Thompson, Sydor, and Zhitnik had to play nearly the entire game and they won. Thus the hype machine began.

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What ever happened to him? Never mind, looks like he's playing for the P Bruins.

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Yeah, I was thinking of Hocking. Thanks, good memory!

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What ever happened to him? Never mind, looks like he's playing for the P Bruins.
I think he's the baby Bruins captain. He had a decent AHL career.

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Sydor sucked as a king.

Zhitnik was an alcoholic and would play the game drunk. He was also linked to the Russian mafia. Why do you think he was traded to Buffalo for dirt cheap.

Blake along with Duchense & Murphy were only true blue chip players the kings have had on D. Now they have Gleason and Visnovski as the two blue chips.

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Yeah, everybody hated Sydor, but he was still a kid.

I wouldn't call Grant Fuhr and Phillipe Boucher(13th pick '91) dirt cheap. Fuhr may have been injured and sucked for us, but he was still one of the top goaltenders in the league at the time. Boucher was also highly regarded, and didn't start getting injured until much later.

Gretz and Co. traded away those guys because they were in "win now" mode. He surrounded himself with veterans and guys who he had played with previously. He didn't have time for kids to develop or make mistakes; that's why those guys were traded.


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sydor was young and had alot of promise (and eventually panned out in dallas)...you can blame gretzky for the trade on that one...if the kings traded gretzky then instead of sydor and zhitnik, kings would have been set for years on defense...

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sydor was young and had alot of promise (and eventually panned out in dallas)...you can blame gretzky for the trade on that one...if the kings traded gretzky then instead of sydor and zhitnik, kings would have been set for years on defense...
Ahh what could've been.... :mad:

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sydor was young and had alot of promise (and eventually panned out in dallas)...you can blame gretzky for the trade on that one...if the kings traded gretzky then instead of sydor and zhitnik, kings would have been set for years on defense...
Dont get me wrong I would have loved to have kept both Sydor and Zhitnik but they each had their problems. Sydor made some mistakes on the ice that the Kings fans never let him forget. He let is get to him and his play was getting worse. Alot of people at the time were glad to see him go. As much as I hate to say this I agree with him and his wife in their thoughts that he was better off being dealt. This was from an article out of Dallas several years ago so I dont have a link. Zhitnik was another player I liked but it has been said by several ticket holders that he was dealt because of a drinking problem. Also the ownership at the time wanted Fuhr so bad they would have given just about anything to get him.

IMHO gretzky was a player granted a great player but no player should have a say in management. It took the Kings several years to recover from the FOG moves.

EDIT:Sorry all and to poster "Dave in LA" I didnt read far enough back since I was late for work.


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Who did we get for Sydor, Zmolek and someone else? Oh yeah, Shane Churla. That's garbage.

Even if Sydor was a kid that made mistakes, he still had decent potential. But who knows maybe he would have never developed in LA.

Thinking of having Zhitnik, Sydor, Blake, Norstrom (assuming that trade would have happened) back on D today is tantalizing...Hell, I'd take 3 out of the 4.

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At the very worst(team wise) that top four would have at least have given Storr a bit more breathing room to develop.

Then again, who knows if those guys would have developed they way that they have in LA.

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Who did we get for Sydor, Zmolek and someone else? Oh yeah, Shane Churla. That's garbage.

Even if Sydor was a kid that made mistakes, he still had decent potential. But who knows maybe he would have never developed in LA.

Thinking of having Zhitnik, Sydor, Blake, Norstrom (assuming that trade would have happened) back on D today is tantalizing...Hell, I'd take 3 out of the 4.
Not to nit pick, but Churla was a part of the Norstrom deal. It may have went through no the less since i doubt Churla was a big piece of the trade, but just thought i'd mention that.

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At the very worst(team wise) that top four would have at least have given Storr a bit more breathing room to develop.

Then again, who knows if those guys would have developed they way that they have in LA.
with larry robinson as coach, you betcha....just look at sean o'donnell...

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Remember back in tha day when we had 4 "blue-chip" prospects back on D. I remember these three...but who was the fourth?

I seem to have forgotten. I know he didn't do much or make it anywhere though.

or is my memory just messed up...thx

Nah, it was Tim Watters that put us in the finals.

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At the very worst(team wise) that top four would have at least have given Storr a bit more breathing room to develop.

Then again, who knows if those guys would have developed they way that they have in LA.
I highly doubt anyone would have saved Storr's behind. He did it to himself. His lack of determination, work ethic, character & positive attitude hurt him in the long run. I can go on & on about it, but it is useless now.

He wasted his opportunity in LA. He just kept collecting paychecks and assumed he had the job regardless of how he played. What a waste of talent. He had all the skills to be one of the greats with all the opportunities he received. Instead he chose to be a loser.


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Oh, I agree. I'm just saying a bit more breathing room from his defense may have helped him a bit.

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